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It's gonna be weird.

I think Edmonton will be one of the selected cities, which means the Oilers team itself could be playing somewhere else for the whole playoffs.



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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 13:16

It's gonna be weird.

I think Edmonton will be one of the selected cities, which means the Oilers team itself could be playing somewhere else for the whole playoffs.


I think we have a chance, but the border may be a complicating factor. The NHL may want to set up everyone in the US so that they don't have to worry about crossing the border again at any point. There's no guarantee what happens with that over the next several months, so it removes some uncertainty if everyone is in the same place.

If it were me, I'd look at a couple of Canadian rinks, because the virus hasn't hit Canada nearly as hard, and the ice is likely to be better. If you're playing hockey in Vegas in July and August - especially multiple games in a day - is the ice going to be able to be maintained?

But the NHL's head offices are in the US, and the rules in some of the states are a little more lax, and if I'm the PA, I'm pushing hard to do this in a state with no state tax. Any income the players make over this period, they'd be paying their taxes in that jurisdiction, so they'd do better in somewhere like Nevada or Florida. I'm not sure how the business taxes work on the NHL, especially since most revenue would come from their TV deal, but I have to think that's a consideration for them as well.

I wonder where hotels would be cheapest too. There's less people that want to come travel to Edmonton and Winnipeg than Vegas, but also a lot less occupancy available too.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 14:09

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 13:16

It's gonna be weird.

I think Edmonton will be one of the selected cities, which means the Oilers team itself could be playing somewhere else for the whole playoffs.


I think we have a chance, but the border may be a complicating factor. The NHL may want to set up everyone in the US so that they don't have to worry about crossing the border again at any point. There's no guarantee what happens with that over the next several months, so it removes some uncertainty if everyone is in the same place.

If it were me, I'd look at a couple of Canadian rinks, because the virus hasn't hit Canada nearly as hard, and the ice is likely to be better. If you're playing hockey in Vegas in July and August - especially multiple games in a day - is the ice going to be able to be maintained?

But the NHL's head offices are in the US, and the rules in some of the states are a little more lax, and if I'm the PA, I'm pushing hard to do this in a state with no state tax. Any income the players make over this period, they'd be paying their taxes in that jurisdiction, so they'd do better in somewhere like Nevada or Florida. I'm not sure how the business taxes work on the NHL, especially since most revenue would come from their TV deal, but I have to think that's a consideration for them as well.

I wonder where hotels would be cheapest too. There's less people that want to come travel to Edmonton and Winnipeg than Vegas, but also a lot less occupancy available too.


Seems lame to want to play in a less safe area to save a bit of tax. If anyone gets infected during this run to finish the year, they could all be screwed. I wonder what the tax implications actually are when most of the revenue from this will be from sold advertisements topping up the HRR to allow more escrow to be released.




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The weak Canadian dollar compared to US has to be an advantage. Expenses will be high with 24 teams essentially all on the road.


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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 14:55

The weak Canadian dollar compared to US has to be an advantage. Expenses will be high with 24 teams essentially all on the road.

I'd imagine they'd go out for bids like Amazon did a couple of years back. Try and make cities compete against each other for the honor of providing a massive subsidy to a billion dollar enterprise. It's bid shopping without the illegatily of actually bid shopping.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 15:46

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 14:55

The weak Canadian dollar compared to US has to be an advantage. Expenses will be high with 24 teams essentially all on the road.

I'd imagine they'd go out for bids like Amazon did a couple of years back. Try and make cities compete against each other for the honor of providing a massive subsidy to a billion dollar enterprise. It's bid shopping without the illegatily of actually bid shopping.


What are the actual benefits of these teams coming I wonder? I guess they will use up hotel rooms and buy food and other stuff. There is no revenue from paying customers attending games though.

Kenney only mentions that it would be good for tourism when things are opening up. Do we actually want that? hehe.

I think we should hold firm on our bid of 1 snack pack per player and 10 snack packs for Gary bettman if they pick Edmonton. If push comes to shove, perhaps I would go as high as 11 snack packs for Gary.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 16:46

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 15:46

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2020 14:55

The weak Canadian dollar compared to US has to be an advantage. Expenses will be high with 24 teams essentially all on the road.

I'd imagine they'd go out for bids like Amazon did a couple of years back. Try and make cities compete against each other for the honor of providing a massive subsidy to a billion dollar enterprise. It's bid shopping without the illegatily of actually bid shopping.


What are the actual benefits of these teams coming I wonder? I guess they will use up hotel rooms and buy food and other stuff. There is no revenue from paying customers attending games though.

Kenney only mentions that it would be good for tourism when things are opening up. Do we actually want that? hehe.

I think we should hold firm on our bid of 1 snack pack per player and 10 snack packs for Gary bettman if they pick Edmonton. If push comes to shove, perhaps I would go as high as 11 snack packs for Gary.


Yeah, it would be a boon to a couple of area hotels. They'd need to cater in a lot of meals too and you'd get a lot of external shots of the city and area.

That's about it!



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Curious what NHL players think about this? Edmonton is rolling out an impressive “lifestyle” presentation in its Hub city quest. Secured golf course. Cool temps. Outdoor big screens for movies/other games. Some fun stuff planned. More tonight in Insider Trading.


Appears we are going way beyond snack packs

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 12:40

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Curious what NHL players think about this? Edmonton is rolling out an impressive “lifestyle” presentation in its Hub city quest. Secured golf course. Cool temps. Outdoor big screens for movies/other games. Some fun stuff planned. More tonight in Insider Trading.


Appears we are going way beyond snack packs

Secured golf course? I hope it's Rundle.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 12:50

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 12:40

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Curious what NHL players think about this? Edmonton is rolling out an impressive “lifestyle” presentation in its Hub city quest. Secured golf course. Cool temps. Outdoor big screens for movies/other games. Some fun stuff planned. More tonight in Insider Trading.


Appears we are going way beyond snack packs

Secured golf course? I hope it's Rundle.


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I'll say this: I don't completely get the campaigning to be a hub city by the OEG, City of Edmonton, and Province of Alberta.

The economic impact will be quite minimal, I'd imagine. I can't imagine they want media going from bar to bar to bar and bringing that back into the hotel around the players.

It doesn't seem likely there will be any fans at the game (and there shouldn't be), so from a fan perspective, it doesn't matter if they're played here or Helsinki.

Entertaining players/media should be secondary to safety. This isn't the NHL All-Star Weekend, or the NHL Draft, or even a normal Cup playoffs. One sick player likely puts everything jeopardy, which has HUGE financial implication for the NHL and for the players. Every effort should be fully concentrated on completing the season safely and securing TV revenue. ESPECIALLY since having a full season next year seems pretty unlikely as well.

IF - and it's a huge IF - you can entertain the players and media after that primary concern, great. But every time they spread and and step outside that bubble - even to secure areas - you do increase the risk of someone catching and spreading something and it carries huge financial implications. Ideally, I'd want to have as little entrance / exit of the Marriott/Rogers complex as possible.

All of this said, Edmonton SHOULD host because it is the safest, best chance to complete season. Fewest cases, secure and self-contained complex, and less likely to have trouble with the ice due to temperatures. But if the NHL can't see that, it's really their loss, and maybe it ultimately costs them.

One final point: if the NHL can't adhere to provincial health guidelines, I don't really want them here anyway. Things like a 14-day quarantine for arriving media and players give everyone the best chance of entering & staying healthy. Again, it's in the NHL's best interest. Make sure everyone is healthy before they enter the bubble, check temperatures daily, and control entry/exit. It's not an ideal world, but there is a financial stake in this for both the league and the players, and this gives them the best chance at a favourable outcome. Besides, they've been quarantining for a few months now, this is a step up on that regardless, even if it isn't ideal or a return to normal.

TLDR; not sure why OEG is campaigning so hard. Edmonton is the NHL's best option, and if the NHL doesn't see that, they're the ones who are creating a greater risk for themselves.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:18

I'll say this: I don't completely get the campaigning to be a hub city by the OEG, City of Edmonton, and Province of Alberta.

The economic impact will be quite minimal, I'd imagine. I can't imagine they want media going from bar to bar to bar and bringing that back into the hotel around the players.

It doesn't seem likely there will be any fans at the game (and there shouldn't be), so from a fan perspective, it doesn't matter if they're played here or Helsinki.

Entertaining players/media should be secondary to safety. This isn't the NHL All-Star Weekend, or the NHL Draft, or even a normal Cup playoffs. One sick player likely puts everything jeopardy, which has HUGE financial implication for the NHL and for the players. Every effort should be fully concentrated on completing the season safely and securing TV revenue. ESPECIALLY since having a full season next year seems pretty unlikely as well.

IF - and it's a huge IF - you can entertain the players and media after that primary concern, great. But every time they spread and and step outside that bubble - even to secure areas - you do increase the risk of someone catching and spreading something and it carries huge financial implications. Ideally, I'd want to have as little entrance / exit of the Marriott/Rogers complex as possible.

All of this said, Edmonton SHOULD host because it is the safest, best chance to complete season. Fewest cases, secure and self-contained complex, and less likely to have trouble with the ice due to temperatures. But if the NHL can't see that, it's really their loss, and maybe it ultimately costs them.

One final point: if the NHL can't adhere to provincial health guidelines, I don't really want them here anyway. Things like a 14-day quarantine for arriving media and players give everyone the best chance of entering & staying healthy. Again, it's in the NHL's best interest. Make sure everyone is healthy before they enter the bubble, check temperatures daily, and control entry/exit. It's not an ideal world, but there is a financial stake in this for both the league and the players, and this gives them the best chance at a favourable outcome. Besides, they've been quarantining for a few months now, this is a step up on that regardless, even if it isn't ideal or a return to normal.

TLDR; not sure why OEG is campaigning so hard. Edmonton is the NHL's best option, and if the NHL doesn't see that, they're the ones who are creating a greater risk for themselves.


You're going to fill a couple hundred hotel rooms for a couple of months - that's not a small dollar figure. Twelve teams, with staff and a taxi squad is probably 600-700 people, so early on, it's massive.

The hotel industry is suffering pretty badly, so if you're the JW Marriott and you can sell out for a couple months when there's going to be minimal other traffic, it's a big deal.

And teams aren't going to do room service for weeks. They'll be ordering huge amounts of food from local restaurants too.

I think it's a lift at a point in time where any boost is useful.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:46

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:18

I'll say this: I don't completely get the campaigning to be a hub city by the OEG, City of Edmonton, and Province of Alberta.

The economic impact will be quite minimal, I'd imagine. I can't imagine they want media going from bar to bar to bar and bringing that back into the hotel around the players.

It doesn't seem likely there will be any fans at the game (and there shouldn't be), so from a fan perspective, it doesn't matter if they're played here or Helsinki.

Entertaining players/media should be secondary to safety. This isn't the NHL All-Star Weekend, or the NHL Draft, or even a normal Cup playoffs. One sick player likely puts everything jeopardy, which has HUGE financial implication for the NHL and for the players. Every effort should be fully concentrated on completing the season safely and securing TV revenue. ESPECIALLY since having a full season next year seems pretty unlikely as well.

IF - and it's a huge IF - you can entertain the players and media after that primary concern, great. But every time they spread and and step outside that bubble - even to secure areas - you do increase the risk of someone catching and spreading something and it carries huge financial implications. Ideally, I'd want to have as little entrance / exit of the Marriott/Rogers complex as possible.

All of this said, Edmonton SHOULD host because it is the safest, best chance to complete season. Fewest cases, secure and self-contained complex, and less likely to have trouble with the ice due to temperatures. But if the NHL can't see that, it's really their loss, and maybe it ultimately costs them.

One final point: if the NHL can't adhere to provincial health guidelines, I don't really want them here anyway. Things like a 14-day quarantine for arriving media and players give everyone the best chance of entering & staying healthy. Again, it's in the NHL's best interest. Make sure everyone is healthy before they enter the bubble, check temperatures daily, and control entry/exit. It's not an ideal world, but there is a financial stake in this for both the league and the players, and this gives them the best chance at a favourable outcome. Besides, they've been quarantining for a few months now, this is a step up on that regardless, even if it isn't ideal or a return to normal.

TLDR; not sure why OEG is campaigning so hard. Edmonton is the NHL's best option, and if the NHL doesn't see that, they're the ones who are creating a greater risk for themselves.


You're going to fill a couple hundred hotel rooms for a couple of months - that's not a small dollar figure. Twelve teams, with staff and a taxi squad is probably 600-700 people, so early on, it's massive.

The hotel industry is suffering pretty badly, so if you're the JW Marriott and you can sell out for a couple months when there's going to be minimal other traffic, it's a big deal.

And teams aren't going to do room service for weeks. They'll be ordering huge amounts of food from local restaurants too.

I think it's a lift at a point in time where any boost is useful.



It's not worthless. I just think that expectations need to be tempered. There will be limited spillover and it will not be a huge economic boom. But it'll help. Mostly the Oilers Entertainment Group and their buddies.

What I guess I'm kind of implying is that the JW Marriott will benefit a lot. Crash Hotel across the street probably won't benefit much at all.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:50

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:46

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:18

I'll say this: I don't completely get the campaigning to be a hub city by the OEG, City of Edmonton, and Province of Alberta.

The economic impact will be quite minimal, I'd imagine. I can't imagine they want media going from bar to bar to bar and bringing that back into the hotel around the players.

It doesn't seem likely there will be any fans at the game (and there shouldn't be), so from a fan perspective, it doesn't matter if they're played here or Helsinki.

Entertaining players/media should be secondary to safety. This isn't the NHL All-Star Weekend, or the NHL Draft, or even a normal Cup playoffs. One sick player likely puts everything jeopardy, which has HUGE financial implication for the NHL and for the players. Every effort should be fully concentrated on completing the season safely and securing TV revenue. ESPECIALLY since having a full season next year seems pretty unlikely as well.

IF - and it's a huge IF - you can entertain the players and media after that primary concern, great. But every time they spread and and step outside that bubble - even to secure areas - you do increase the risk of someone catching and spreading something and it carries huge financial implications. Ideally, I'd want to have as little entrance / exit of the Marriott/Rogers complex as possible.

All of this said, Edmonton SHOULD host because it is the safest, best chance to complete season. Fewest cases, secure and self-contained complex, and less likely to have trouble with the ice due to temperatures. But if the NHL can't see that, it's really their loss, and maybe it ultimately costs them.

One final point: if the NHL can't adhere to provincial health guidelines, I don't really want them here anyway. Things like a 14-day quarantine for arriving media and players give everyone the best chance of entering & staying healthy. Again, it's in the NHL's best interest. Make sure everyone is healthy before they enter the bubble, check temperatures daily, and control entry/exit. It's not an ideal world, but there is a financial stake in this for both the league and the players, and this gives them the best chance at a favourable outcome. Besides, they've been quarantining for a few months now, this is a step up on that regardless, even if it isn't ideal or a return to normal.

TLDR; not sure why OEG is campaigning so hard. Edmonton is the NHL's best option, and if the NHL doesn't see that, they're the ones who are creating a greater risk for themselves.


You're going to fill a couple hundred hotel rooms for a couple of months - that's not a small dollar figure. Twelve teams, with staff and a taxi squad is probably 600-700 people, so early on, it's massive.

The hotel industry is suffering pretty badly, so if you're the JW Marriott and you can sell out for a couple months when there's going to be minimal other traffic, it's a big deal.

And teams aren't going to do room service for weeks. They'll be ordering huge amounts of food from local restaurants too.

I think it's a lift at a point in time where any boost is useful.



It's not worthless. I just think that expectations need to be tempered. There will be limited spillover and it will not be a huge economic boom. But it'll help. Mostly the Oilers Entertainment Group and their buddies.

What I guess I'm kind of implying is that the JW Marriott will benefit a lot. Crash Hotel across the street probably won't benefit much at all.


They aren't likely to be harmed at all by it though - and they may get some spillover benefit in that other travellers who can't use the Marriott may stay there instead.

I do think that it makes some sense to be a little less public with the lobbying here - Kenney doing interviews with multiple media guys talking up the benefits of it and Iveson tweeting a bunch about it isn't really needed and it may actually make us look worse afterwards if we aren't successful in landing it. Basically a repeat of the video tape plea the Oilers made for Dany Heatley...



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Kenney himself made his letter to Trudeau public, basically asking for a quarantine exception for the NHL.

Strategy is clear. Make it look like you are trying, and if it fails, pass blame to federal government.

I don't think anybody should be getting exceptions. It's embarassing how public this all is.



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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 27 May 2020 12:05

Kenney himself made his letter to Trudeau public, basically asking for a quarantine exception for the NHL.

Strategy is clear. Make it look like you are trying, and if it fails, pass blame to federal government.

I don't think anybody should be getting exceptions. It's embarassing how public this all is.


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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 21 May 2020 13:18

I'll say this: I don't completely get the campaigning to be a hub city by the OEG, City of Edmonton, and Province of Alberta.

The economic impact will be quite minimal, I'd imagine. I can't imagine they want media going from bar to bar to bar and bringing that back into the hotel around the players.

It doesn't seem likely there will be any fans at the game (and there shouldn't be), so from a fan perspective, it doesn't matter if they're played here or Helsinki.

Entertaining players/media should be secondary to safety. This isn't the NHL All-Star Weekend, or the NHL Draft, or even a normal Cup playoffs. One sick player likely puts everything jeopardy, which has HUGE financial implication for the NHL and for the players. Every effort should be fully concentrated on completing the season safely and securing TV revenue. ESPECIALLY since having a full season next year seems pretty unlikely as well.

IF - and it's a huge IF - you can entertain the players and media after that primary concern, great. But every time they spread and and step outside that bubble - even to secure areas - you do increase the risk of someone catching and spreading something and it carries huge financial implications. Ideally, I'd want to have as little entrance / exit of the Marriott/Rogers complex as possible.

All of this said, Edmonton SHOULD host because it is the safest, best chance to complete season. Fewest cases, secure and self-contained complex, and less likely to have trouble with the ice due to temperatures. But if the NHL can't see that, it's really their loss, and maybe it ultimately costs them.

One final point: if the NHL can't adhere to provincial health guidelines, I don't really want them here anyway. Things like a 14-day quarantine for arriving media and players give everyone the best chance of entering & staying healthy. Again, it's in the NHL's best interest. Make sure everyone is healthy before they enter the bubble, check temperatures daily, and control entry/exit. It's not an ideal world, but there is a financial stake in this for both the league and the players, and this gives them the best chance at a favourable outcome. Besides, they've been quarantining for a few months now, this is a step up on that regardless, even if it isn't ideal or a return to normal.

TLDR; not sure why OEG is campaigning so hard. Edmonton is the NHL's best option, and if the NHL doesn't see that, they're the ones who are creating a greater risk for themselves.


Well said. Agree with this as well. If the NHL doesn't see the value of Edmonton being one of the cities, to heck with them.

Edmonton and Vancovuer is pretty much no-brainers regarding the arena and facilities nearby available. No US city probably comes even close in terms of safety to try to make sure you can finish this season off without some kind of outbreak occurring within the player/staff ranks.


That said, I fully expect the NHL to hold a Lebron James style "the decision" event to reveal who kissed their butts the most.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 May 2020 12:12



Well said. Agree with this as well. If the NHL doesn't see the value of Edmonton being one of the cities, to heck with them.

Edmonton and Vancovuer is pretty much no-brainers regarding the arena and facilities nearby available. No US city probably comes even close in terms of safety to try to make sure you can finish this season off without some kind of outbreak occurring within the player/staff ranks.


That said, I fully expect the NHL to hold a Lebron James style "the decision" event to reveal who kissed their butts the most.

I'd watch.

There are a lot of American cities and states that aren't "experiencing" being plague zones. Even New York, unless they're planning on holding games in an old folks home, I'm not too worried.



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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #760610 is a reply to message #760605 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 25 May 2020 12:15

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 May 2020 12:12



Well said. Agree with this as well. If the NHL doesn't see the value of Edmonton being one of the cities, to heck with them.

Edmonton and Vancovuer is pretty much no-brainers regarding the arena and facilities nearby available. No US city probably comes even close in terms of safety to try to make sure you can finish this season off without some kind of outbreak occurring within the player/staff ranks.


That said, I fully expect the NHL to hold a Lebron James style "the decision" event to reveal who kissed their butts the most.

I'd watch.

There are a lot of American cities and states that aren't "experiencing" being plague zones. Even New York, unless they're planning on holding games in an old folks home, I'm not too worried.


If the threshold for re-freezing the season is simply anyone testing positive, then I'd certainly be more worried about players in any US city. Spread in the general population is far more rampant in pretty much any place you could hold these games than in Edmonton or Vancouver. Players and support staff still need to interact with the general population in some capacity. They need to eat, they need various supplies. They will want to get entertainment in some way that will open opportunities for overlapping interaction with things and areas the general population interacted with. The required goal of all this will be everyone involved getting 0 cases of COVID-19 over months of games being played.



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