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benv wrote on Wed, 17 November 2021 16:57 | I was curious, so I did the same analysis on a team that entered the league the same time as the Oilers (Hartford/Carolina) to see if they fared any better:
Goalie Draft Year NHL Games
Kay Whitmore 1985 838
Cam Ward 2002 701
JS Giguere 1995 596
Frederik Andersen 2010 404
Manny Legace 1993 365
Justin Peters 2004 83
Alex Nedeljokovic 2014 39
Darren Jensen 1980 30
Rob Zepp 2001 10
Mike Lenarduzzi 1990 4
Jeff Poeschl 1981 0
Jamie Falle 1983 0
Peter Abric 1984 0
Bill Horn 1986 0
Sean Evoy 1986 0
Steve Laurin 1987 0
Jason Currie 1991 0
Brian Regan 1994 0
Aaron Baker 1996 0
Chris Madden 1998 0
Antti Jokela 1999 0
Craig Kowalski 2000 0
Daniel Boisclair 2001 0
Daniel Manzato 2002 0
Kevin Nastiuk 2003 0
Mike Murphy 2008 0
Matt Mahalak 2011 0
Daniel Atshuller 2012 0
Collin Olson 2012 0
Callum Booth 2015 0
Jack Lafontaine 2016 0
Jeremy Helvig 2016 0
Eetu Makiniemi 2017 0
Jacob Kucharski 2018 0
Pyotr Kochetkov 2019 0
Patrik Hamrla 2021 0
Nikita Quapp 2021 0
Yegor Naumov 2021 0
Seems fairly similar to me. I don't think this is so much a poor reflection on the Oilers as the difficulty of drafting goalies in general.
Unless Hartford/Carolina are just as bad as drafting goalies as the Oilers and other teams would look better. Maybe I'll take a look someday.
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I don't know - Skinner's appearance last night was the 2400th by a goalie the Oilers drafted. Eyeballing that Whalers/Hurricanes list, it looks like they're over 3000 - so that's pretty significant. That's a full 7.5 seasons more out of goalies they drafted. More guys who've gone a lot longer too.
I will say, it's more complicated than that simple analysis because if you have Fuhr and Moog, you're probably not prioritizing goalies as much in the draft, so spending later picks on them. Our first round goalie picks are 2/2 for becoming starters. Also, if you have a Martin Brodeur in your net, you're less likely to give goalies opportunities, which may stagnate some guys that otherwise had a chance to be NHLers. It's a funny position because there's so few places for them to play and to be successful, you can't really have much time where you're not taking a lot of games in the crease. A couple years as a back-up in the AHL can kill your progression.
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