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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 13 September 2022 10:49 |
| Steve wrote on Tue, 13 September 2022 10:44 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 September 2022 14:58 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 September 2022 15:12 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 12 September 2022 15:04 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 September 2022 14:55 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 September 2022 14:36 |
The old guard Edmonton media out in force with their Puljujarvi pitchforks today. Both Matheson and Rishaug calling for him to be traded. Brownlee wrote an article as well, saying that he thinks the extremists on both sides of the issue are annoying, but then speculating that Puljujarvi's relationship with the team and the coach is on the rocks.
Of course, we've heard no actual quotes from the team ever suggesting that is the case - not even the normal leaked information from unknown management types. It's just speculation from guys like Matheson and Spector that then is amplified as if it is something known.
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Is there anything actually out there about Pulju from the team? I feel like all we have is Brad Holland talking positive on his analytics and media guys all saying the same thing with no actual quotes to back up any of it.
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Anything out there about Pulju is directly from the team. We know how media works in this town. Maybe the goal is to literally make him untradeable?
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Is it in this case? Sometimes the media just dislike certain guys. They were crapping on Pulju the entire time leading up to him signing with the team coming back from Finland.
Getting the impression that Oilers media are a lot more shut out of decision making in the org, and all they have left now is trying to create some narratives. Pulju is easy to target, he's awkward, doesn't fit the jock mould at all that lots of our media guys wish they could be (but aren't at all) and think hockey players should be. He will never give them a good quote except for humorous awkward stuff that they probably despise. Analytics people like him so that also adds to Oilers media hating him and the desire to see him fail. I think they are largely in their own bubble here.
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I don't know if this is from the team. It would have fit if the team sold him off last Fall when he had the hot start, but these guys didn't like him, didn't want him to come back, hate that the stats guys love him, etc.
They do often act as water carriers for the team, but they also have their own individual torches they like to carry, and so often that sees most play where they feel that bloggers and amateurs like us are telling them we know better than them, despite their long run of blathering on about the sport professionally.
I feel like Puljujarvi may be more in the second category, although I will say, I think that the management team is susceptible to that noise from those morons.
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If both management and Puljujarvi were both happy and in this together, I would think that Oiler management would come out and defend him after these stupid articles come out. The silence is telling. One or both sides aren't happy with the other. My bet is that it's both sides. There is a zero percent chance that Puljajarvi spends his UFA years in Edmonton. The hope is that the Oilers can get decent assets for him at some point. The current market is not in their favour.
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Do the Oilers defend their players much? Matheson was allowed to go at some players pretty hard last year. I think Drai maybe? And it was all up to the players to be sarcastic with him and shut him up (didn't really work but Matty eventually got tired of the narrative he was trying to push). I think this org has a decent history of just leaving players out to dry with media.
For Pulju there actually was some defense. Brad Holland stroked the analytics crowd and basically said he agrees with his defensive contribution being top tier. Ken Holland said he is not in any rush to trade Pulju. Pulju's camp I believe said they aren't asking to be traded. He went to arbitration to make sure he had a deal for this coming season and seems pretty positive by all accounts so far. I dunno what is left for anyone to say.
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One of my issues with Oilers management is that since Sather left, there has been no attempts to defend players from media or fans. Justin Schultz or Marc-Andre Bergeron getting booed every time they touch the puck, to the obvious detriment to their game? Crickets. Spector pulling out the hatchet and ripping in to Hemsky for non-performance when he was playing on a broken foot for a month - something Spector likely was aware of? The Oilers say nothing beyond mentioning that he's out for the season with that injury a couple days after Spector's article. The bunch of them going on and on about Draisaitl after the run-in with Matheson? Or Matheson attacking Koskinen? Nothing from the team. Hell, when racists were giving Ethan Bear a barrage of online abuse, all Ken Holland had to say on the matter was that he hadn't heard about it.
It's part of the tacit bargain with the media here. They have free reign to say whatever they want about whomever they want, so long as that whomever isn't part of the team management or coaching group at the time. And with fans, well, they're afraid if they target fans, then the fans might target them too, so they prefer to stay quiet. If they're let go, they're open season though so long as they're not also alumni.
I do not expect one member of the team's management to step to a mike and defend Puljujarvi or anyone else (unless criticized by mean bloggers).
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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