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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830483 is a reply to message #824423 ]
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I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..

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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830485 is a reply to message #830483 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..


Gazdic loves him. Says he's "tough" and "all heart".

Looks like Stauffer gets the sandpaper he's been begging for for a month!

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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830490 is a reply to message #830483 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..

I think Carrick is an upgrade on Ryan who is their 4th line C now. Carrick is bigger, faster, more physical, more of an agitator. He's a right shot, over 50% on draws, plays on your PK, can chip in a small amount of offense but not a ton. Ryan has 5 goals, Carrick has 8.

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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830493 is a reply to message #830448 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 09:49

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 09:12

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 08:17

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 05 March 2024 17:26

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:47

Players know better than fans who can play and help them win.


Jack Campbell was also super popular in the room and all the players love him, and wanted him to keep getting opportunities to get back on track. He had to almost tank the season to finally force Holland's hand.

Players need the GM and coach to have a bigger picture view of how to get a full team to win against the best players/coaches/GMs in the world, many of which are all business from top to bottom. Lots of crap players are amazing guys to hang out with and can develop deep relationships with others.

All that said. The Oilers all absolutely loved Barrie too, and Holland did very well trading him. So hopefully history repeats and we see another super popular in the room RHD, that can't compete against top comp 5v5, moved for an upgrade.

I am not talking about who they like having a drink with after games. I'm sure Campbell would be a great guy to have a beer with. I am talking about who the players see as important to team success on the ice.

Just my opinion but I would think a player like McD would know a little better who helps him win games over a fan reading stats on a free website.

Let's be real here. Arm chair GM's make a TON of decisions on who's good and who sucks based on the FREE information they look up on websites. Teams have their own departments and actually PAY some of the same sites fans look at to get their information. So I am going to guess that the information a fan looks up for free about the Oilers, probably isn't that sites best, most accurate information given teams and others actually PAY them to do the similar stuff. I am not bashing the information on these sites, it has value and shows part of the story but I think a person is really kidding themselves if they think that information is the best, most accurate information out there. Giving your best services for nothing is how companies go out of businesses real fast.


I think the information we have access is to very reliable and accurate. I also believe that clubs have even more information than we see, plus they can get insight into the player himself, potential ailments and what is going on between the ears that us armchair GM's will never have access too.

To counterpoint your Ceci argument, last year we moved Tyson Barrie who was a valuable piece to the team, producing well and the players loved him. Did the players miss him? Most certainly and they all went to his wedding in the summer, but they got immensely better and it sure looks like Ekholm is extremely valued on and off the ice by the team.

If you can upgrade on Ceci then you have to move him. There are not a lot of contracts that are moveable on the team and if I had a choice as an experienced armchair GM I would keep Foegele because of his versatility, and move on from Ceci. I would also look at moving Kane, which has now become tabloid sports news for the Oilers and the rumours are circulating.

Interesting times. Stauffer is my barometer for potential moves and all signs point to a replacement at #2 RD if possible. We will know soon enough and if it happens we will see if moving him was the right idea. One thing is for certain, the Oilers will make some moves.

I'm not opposed to upgrading Ceci like I have said lots, I just would not trade Ceci for a guy who's only a marginal upgrade in 1 area but the same or worse in other. If the guy is better at defending but not better in other areas, then I would be Ok with the trade. Tanev as an example is a better defender than Ceci. I don't know if he's better than him in other areas but defending, he would have been an upgrade. But if a guy is a better puck mover but not better in other areas, I don't see as worth it. Based on the names being floated out there, that appears to be the case. Depending on who a person reads and listens too, a few guys are better skaters or puck movers but debatable defensively. So me personally, I would not trade Ceci for a guy who people aren't sure is aa better defender.

When it comes to Barrie, that is a good example of the team liking the guy. A few of the big boys were vocal in being sad he was traded but they got back a superior dman in Ekholm. Ekholm made the Oilers team way better. I don't think there is any debate. So in my opinion, I think the players were OK that a friend was traded because the guy who came back is superior. So for Ceci, if getting a guy who's clearly better all around costs them Ceci, I would guess they would be sad but OK with it. But trading a guy who the fans think is better just because they don't like Ceci but who the players themselves don't believe is better, I am not so sure that's a good idea. Trading for a guy who passes the puck better, something that I think some fans value a lot more than other things, but is worse in other areas I don't think goes over well. So that's my point. If you trade Ceci who the players like and think has value to their team on the ice, that guy better be a clear upgrade coming back.


I think we would have a big difference in opinion of what an upgrade to Ceci looks like. This analysis is, IMO, a pretty accurate representation of him

https://i.ibb.co/R9g8tNk/cECI.jpg

So, that's what we're trying to replace. Lots of options a GM could look at IMO. Your threshold for what a Ceci upgrade looks like probably only leaves a handful of players, all very difficult to get, maybe impossible.

In any case, looks like we are just going the forward route at the moment. Still hope Holland has another trick up his sleeve. If not, so be it, hopes and prayers that our D don't collapse again in the playoffs.

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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830497 is a reply to message #830493 ]
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I've been hard on the guy in the past, but Vinny Desharnais has looked pretty solid the past few games. Maybe the upgrade to Ceci comes from within?

Fingers crossed none of our current 6 get injured. I guess we do have Broberg to step in if needed (assuming he isn't traded)

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 13:28

I've been hard on the guy in the past, but Vinny Desharnais has looked pretty solid the past few games. Maybe the upgrade to Ceci comes from within?

Fingers crossed none of our current 6 get injured. I guess we do have Broberg to step in if needed (assuming he isn't traded)


Desharnais has played well. And Ceci looks a lot better with Kulak on the 3rd pair. I think part of the latter is that Kulak is back in his playoff form and playing extremely well lately with anyone.

Huge huge gamble though going into the playoffs with Desharnais having to play top comp. I'd hope for better in such an important year for the org, but maybe there is no choice now. Especially with the 1st round pick now gone.

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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830502 is a reply to message #830450 ]
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I think it's worth asking Connor if he HATES a player and wouldn't want him on the team. Outside of our superstar having a vendetta against someone, it matters very little who he wants to bring in. Hopefully your GM and coach know better.
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 Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830508 is a reply to message #824423 ]
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From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Clean house or bust

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.


Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.


Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.


Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.


Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.


Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.



Maybe he should run that quote past Jackson before saying stupid sh...tuff.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:01

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.


Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.


Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.



Maybe he should run that quote past Jackson before saying stupid sh...tuff.

I like the six they have too... I'm just concerned what happens if they aren't the first team in history to never suffer a defensive injury all season and playoffs. Now, I'm not sure that's a Stanley Cup winning D Corp, but I guess we're going to find out.

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.


Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.


Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.



What a terribly disappointing quote. It seemed like our biggest needs was a backup goalie and an upgrade at RD and in the last week Holland has quotes saying he has no plan to try to do either. I guess it is possible that the oilers have finally learned not to tip their hand, but I think it is far more likely that they remain bumbling and honest

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Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.


We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.


Pretty funny if the Nucks sold the farm for Lindholm just to flip him a month later for Guentzel.

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.


We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.


Old Man Rutherford is anything BUT a good manager.

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.


We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.



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As the Flames/Knights finalize the Hanifin trade, word out of Vegas suggests they aren't necessarily finished. Could still add another forward by the deadline.


I wonder if Katz is flipping his s&%(# while he watches this stuff. So frustrating. Just give Vegas Guentzel too. Eichel can have a little recovery setback and LTIR to game 1 with Stone.

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You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the shamelessness, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:36

You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.


No kidding. I'm so sick of the blatant exploiting of that salary cap loophole.

I guess we need to take advantage of that too. That's about the only guaranteed way that any loophole like that will ever be closed.

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:16

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.


Pretty funny if the Nucks sold the farm for Lindholm just to flip him a month later for Guentzel.



Rental as well..

Lindholm really trailed off after the trade.. buyers remorse.. I doubt Pittsburgh would be satisfied with Lindholm as the piece coming back who is UFA also.. why would Pittsburgh take a rental who will want the moon next year?

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:38

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:36

You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.


No kidding. I'm so sick of the blatant exploiting of that salary cap loophole.

I guess we need to take advantage of that too. That's about the only guaranteed way that any loophole like that will ever be closed.




Spittin' Chiclets thinks Vegas's LTIR scam(s) deserves ridicule as well..

https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/17655361189408322 18

and another one..

https://twitter.com/OCPDesigns/status/1765536561754415258

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 19:20]

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Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 19:41]

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.


undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.


undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.




Rumour is that they will get Hannifin with 3rd party retention.. and then will go out for another forward..

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Talk that Oilers will go after a depth 6-7 D-man with what cap they have left..

One of the guys mentioned was Josh Brown on the Coyutes..

6'-5", 220#

His defensive numbers look good.. been pulling about 12 minutes per game.. and.. shoots right..
Cap hit is $1.275M.. would need retention.. or a trade out..

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 23:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.


undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.




Jesus. What's it gonna take to close that loophole? Our allstar players guaranteed us a playoff spot, but oops, they all got injured right before the playoffs (weird hey?) Oh, but that gives us another $30m in cap space, so we're just gonna sign all tbe top FAs with that 30m "cap space", and then bring our "injured" guys back just in time for the playoffs once they miraculously recover from all their injuries.

It boggles my mind that the NHL can't see this obvious case of cap circumvention. It is so easy to fix too: Your playoff roster must comply with the salary cap. What's so hard about that?

Vegas got away with it once already. You're gonna let them do it again? The officiating in the NHL is already bush league. Now you're gonna extend that to the salary cap? What a joke of a league.

You're godd amn right that I'm pissed about this.

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:24

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 23:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.


undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.




Jesus. What's it gonna take to close that loophole? Our allstar players guaranteed us a playoff spot, but oops, they all got injured right before the playoffs (weird hey?) Oh, but that gives us another $30m in cap space, so we're just gonna sign all tbe top FAs with that 30m "cap space", and then bring our "injured" guys back just in time for the playoffs once they miraculously recover from all their injuries.

It boggles my mind that the NHL can't see this obvious case of cap circumvention. It is so easy to fix too: Your playoff roster must comply with the salary cap. What's so hard about that?

Vegas got away with it once already. You're gonna let them do it again? The officiating in the NHL is already bush league. Now you're gonna extend that to the salary cap? What a joke of a league.

You're godd amn right that I'm pissed about this.




They see it. Choose not to do anything about it.
I highly suspect that if the Oilers were pulling this year after year.. after year.. they'd require 3 independent NHL physicians to verify the injury.. or make the LTIR player ineligible until the 2nd round.. then take away two 2nd round Oiler draft picks .. naturally.. :)

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 22:21]

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Stauffer was teasing this guy as a potential 7th D add

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/1709786737564-png.830949/


Chances he scores a goal before our current Brown? Thinking 80%.

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The Oilers just sent Holloway down. With 14 forwards after the Henrique - Carrick traded, they had 14 forwards. With him going down, that's another 925k in cap space.

They can let him play a ton in Baker then bring him up for the playoffs when there is no cap.

Hmmmmmm. Interesting.

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Looking like the D-man from PHX is Troy Stetcher
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1765806589666095247

97.

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Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 10:38

Looking like the D-man from PHX is Troy Stetcher
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1765806589666095247


Ken Holland gets his Kulikov.

Clean house or bust

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Another Trade?[ 8 vote(s) ]
1.Trade a non-roster player/picks for depth player 0 / 0%
2.Trade a roster player+picks for impact player 6 / 75%
3.Nada 2 / 25%

Oilers still have $1M in cap left..

[Updated on: Thu, 07 March 2024 14:56]

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Nothin' to see here folks..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GICOYvgbkAEWgAJ?format=jpg&name=small

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I've said it before. All the NHL would have to do is make it so the team that steps on the ice for each playoff game is cap compliant. No different than what it's like for the regular season.

Teams can load up on all the expensive guys they want to be black aces and have them not count against the cap. So in the case of Vegas, you got all this LTIR space, go ahead, load up. But the team on the ice has to be under the cap. How you do it is up to the team. If you want to play 9 forwards and 6 d to be cap compliant, go ahead.

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wait... is this trade what we 'want' or what we 'expect'?

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 15:02

Nothin' to see here folks..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GICOYvgbkAEWgAJ?format=jpg&name=small



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Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30


Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?


Heck of a sales job by Vegas - come play in the desert, we'll pay you a full season's salary for 3/4 of a season's work and then we'll load up to the gills on talent to try to win you another Cup ring!

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Adam wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 21:23

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30


Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?


Heck of a sales job by Vegas - come play in the desert, we'll pay you a full season's salary for 3/4 of a season's work and then we'll load up to the gills on talent to try to win you another Cup ring!

It's the difference between wanting to win and winning.

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Fingers crossed that the Knights continue to flounder leading up to the playoffs. As long as they settle into a Wildcard spot,, (#goKings), they'll be up against the Canucks, Stars or Jets. Each of these teams have made some serious adds!

What a 1st round matchup that would be!

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