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Perkele wrote on Thu, 03 June 2021 12:17

Yeah, looking at the list from capfriendly, I didn't realize that some of the guys I thought would be available actually don't need to be protected.

A quick look and I did find some guys that I would be happy if Holland found a way to bring in this summer (assuming the price is right). You previously mentioned Mrazek and Khudobin, and I would also be happy if we found a way to get Vanacek (Wash), Jarry or DeSmith (pitt), Talbot (minn, but i know that a return is very unlikely), Vlader (bos, a bruins friend of mine is convinced he will be something special), or whichever coyotes goalie is unprotected.

It isn't nearly as deep a list as I was expecting but there seem to be half a dozen guys that I would rather see between our pipes than Smith. Also, some teams like CBJ or NYR might be willing to move one of their goalies (even though they wont lose one to the expansion draft).


Are you sure about Jarry? He's struggled lately, and I worry that his Oil Kings history could make him seem more valuable than he should to our management.

So Jarry is a bad goalie too?

I don't watch a lot of Pens hockey and I know he had a bad playoff but just looking at his stats, his number seem decent especially since he's only 26.


Glove hand like Koskinen.


I don't pretend to know a ton about him. So if that is the case, I'd be concerned. But at the same time, sure he wants a few goals back in the playoffs but I think the Pens are in a hardcore decline so I am curious if his issues are all him. I just see a barely 26 yr old starter signed for 2 more years at cheap money (3.5 mill) and wonder if there is an opportunity to take advantage of a I assume pissed off new GM and especially new Pres in Burke, who might be glossing over the fact their team is just getting old and blame the young goalie for why they didn't advance. I personally had the Isles winning that series all day long.

But if he isn't an upgrade on Koskinen then no point.


I don't know that there's a lot of evidence that he's a big upgrade. He had a really god season in 2019-20 - 33 games, .921 sv%age. Down to .909 this year, which is below average netminding now. Among goalies with 15 or more appearances, he's tied for 26th in save percentage on a good team.

That's better than Koskinen, but also the better team is part of that. I would be worried we'd have a Matt Murray situation if we got him...

I agree, the jury is still out. He's only got 101 games as a starter and like I said, I think the Pens as a team are on a steep decline so I do wonder how much of his drop is based on the team. I have no idea.

What I do like about him is his age. At 26, unless you are the elite of the elite, generally that is a pretty young for a starter and they tend to get better with more experience. So there is a good chance he could be better and maybe a better team in front helps that. I do like the contract. At 3.5 mill for the next 2 years, I do wonder if the Oilers could get someone who's better with a contract even in the ball park. I have my doubts . The last one is the acquisition cost. New GM, new very demanding Pres. You got an aging core, they have been goign for it for a while now so I don't imagine there is a lot in the cupboards. I don't see Burke taking the job to manage a rebuilding team. They lose out in the first round, they see themselves having no time to waste, Jarry didn't have a great series, maybe they pin it just on him. Could you get him on the cheap?

I don't know if he is an upgrade and making sure you get an upgrade is important but I just wonder who that guy is and what's the cost to get him both money and assets.


Honestly, I don't know if the Pens are in steep decline to be honest. Their goaltending has been suspect the last couple of years, but they've won a lot of games in that time. Crosby is still a star player, and Malkin's had his health issues but he can still be a game-changer.

I see goaltending as what is holding them back. Certainly, Murray was exposed in Ottawa this year and Jarry almost single-handedly cost them the deciding game of the last series. I'd be a bit nervous if that's the guy we got now.

On a related note, it will be interesting to see what Pittsburgh does on netminding - do they go and get another guy this summer? They could be competition for us now.


Burky will put his stamp on that team now. Incoming truculence.

Heck. Maybe Schmiddy goes there


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