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 Kr55
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That's a bad way to lose a playoff game!!
Totally preventable though. sigh
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
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CrusaderPi
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:52 |
That's a bad way to lose a playoff game!!
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I feel like we had an overtime stolen from us.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:53 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:52 |
That's a bad way to lose a playoff game!!
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I feel like we had an overtime stolen from us.
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Just knew that SOB would try up the middle too. Friggin cocky erratic gambling bastid
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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Ragnarok73
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:53 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:52 |
That's a bad way to lose a playoff game!!
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I feel like we had an overtime stolen from us.
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You mean given away like a cheap tie.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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HamBlaster
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This team is hopeless in the postseason. Great game but they come up short because of bad mistakes, yet again.
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Oscargasm
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Thanks Schmiddy
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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Ragnarok73
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An all-too familiar refrain: The Oil could not outscore their mistakes. Smith really picked a time to @#%@ up badly.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Mike
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So that’s what, 7 post season losses in a row now?
What the hell did Smith do there? Right up the middle.
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:52 |
Thanks Schmiddy
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Never call him that. The former coach called him that.
Mike Smith is welcome to stop a damn puck when it matters tho
In fairness to Hall, I've wanted to throw a waterbottle at Eakins all season.
~nullterm 03/22/2014
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Oscargasm
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| Slim Jim Phantom Call wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 02:19 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:52 |
Thanks Schmiddy
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Never call him that. The former coach called him that.
Mike Smith is welcome to stop a damn puck when it matters tho
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Did you see that performance? Reminiscent of the old coach days, so Schmiddy was fitting.. just as my pants fit due to no launching 😩
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
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Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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NetBOG
Messages: 3922
Registered: January 2006
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Fells like after every playoff game last year. So close but not good enough.
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Kr55
Messages: 17136
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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g2k
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Location: The Hood
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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I just hope he can properly harness his redemption battle mode.
It’s okay to settle the eff down in a tie game. Unbelievable..
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Goose
Messages: 2030
Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
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g2k
Messages: 8713
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| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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You have my attention. I just don’t know how Koskinen would handled a period like the 1st period tonight. I think he would have allowed several there.
As much as I joke about Smith/battle, it was really needed in this 1st period tonight and although he was scored on twice, he limited the damage.
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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I don't think they will. The team has decided in the last month that Smith is the starter, and so he'll have to have more than one bad game to end his run. Whether that's the right call we will see.
I was at the building tonight - my first playoff game since Game 3 versus Carolina in 2006. It was fun, and relatively loud, but it's nothing like 2006 still. We've lost the level of die-hard here somehow. There was always almost a rabid frenzy about those crowds...maybe we will get there if we win a round or two, but for now, it started loud, and then it wasn't quite there. Not a lot of chanting...just a bit of a buzz and pom pom waving. I'd love to see the next level up from the fans...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Leia
Messages: 779
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Location: England
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 00:21 |
| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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I don't think they will. The team has decided in the last month that Smith is the starter, and so he'll have to have more than one bad game to end his run. Whether that's the right call we will see.
I was at the building tonight - my first playoff game since Game 3 versus Carolina in 2006. It was fun, and relatively loud, but it's nothing like 2006 still. We've lost the level of die-hard here somehow. There was always almost a rabid frenzy about those crowds...maybe we will get there if we win a round or two, but for now, it started loud, and then it wasn't quite there. Not a lot of chanting...just a bit of a buzz and pom pom waving. I'd love to see the next level up from the fans...
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It doesn't help when you only have the 1 song that is chanted. I know I come from the European background where most sporting clubs fans will have 3 or 4 minimum chants to sing, but only one song isn't good enough.
More songs would mean that you'll sing more as more songs get sung and that in turn will ramp up the atmosphere and noise levels. It's not just an Oilers thing, it's most North American sports are the same.
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Babaganoosh2.0
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Kr55
Messages: 17136
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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5 straight playoff losses with us for Smith. If you just play the odds, there is no way he could possibly lose 6 in a row, right? :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 13067
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 07:27 |
| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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5 straight playoff losses with us for Smith. If you just play the odds, there is no way he could possibly lose 6 in a row, right? :)
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The problem is what happens if Koskinen doesn't play well. It's not like we can say that's impossible. Smith established himself as the starter over the last quarter of the season and was a big part of the reason why the Oilers have (had) home ice advantage. Two games is not unreasonable.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Mike
Messages: 4139
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 10:27 |
| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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5 straight playoff losses with us for Smith. If you just play the odds, there is no way he could possibly lose 6 in a row, right? :)
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7 in a row overall for the team, 6 for Smith.
Game 1 LA: .886%, 4GA
Game 4 WPG: .907%, 4GA
Game 3 WPG: .865%, 5GA
Game 2 WPG: .972%, 1GA
Game 1 WPG: .900%, 2GA
Game 1 CHI: .783%, 5GA (in 26 minutes for a stellar 11.31GAA!)
Would be awesome if he could have kept up with what he did his last 8 starts. But I don't think it's realistic to expect that for an extended playoffs run. But if we could at least his season averages of .915%/2.81GA, we could go far. But this is our current tandem and their numbers over the last 3 playoffs:
Koskinen: 1-2, .889%, 3.16
Smith: 0-6, .892%, 3.27
Just not good enough. Despite Smith's March heroics, I still contend that Skinner should have been given the reins, or at least the opportunity. Who knows, could have been our Dryden/Roy/Ward/Niemi/Binnington.
Anyway....let's hope we can outscore our problems tomorrow night.
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Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 09:07 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 May 2022 10:27 |
| Goose wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 21:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:55 |
Don't think you can play kostko either. Looked shaky as hell in the last month aside from the nothing game to end the season.
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Agreed. Smith almost has to get game 2.
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He did beat the Kings on Mar. 30. His last 5 games, including the LA game and excluding the final game against VAN, Koskinen had a .901 save pct. Smith was .886 tonight. I'd start Koskinen.
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5 straight playoff losses with us for Smith. If you just play the odds, there is no way he could possibly lose 6 in a row, right? :)
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7 in a row overall for the team, 6 for Smith.
Game 1 LA: .886%, 4GA
Game 4 WPG: .907%, 4GA
Game 3 WPG: .865%, 5GA
Game 2 WPG: .972%, 1GA
Game 1 WPG: .900%, 2GA
Game 1 CHI: .783%, 5GA (in 26 minutes for a stellar 11.31GAA!)
Would be awesome if he could have kept up with what he did his last 8 starts. But I don't think it's realistic to expect that for an extended playoffs run. But if we could at least his season averages of .915%/2.81GA, we could go far. But this is our current tandem and their numbers over the last 3 playoffs:
Koskinen: 1-2, .889%, 3.16
Smith: 0-6, .892%, 3.27
Just not good enough. Despite Smith's March heroics, I still contend that Skinner should have been given the reins, or at least the opportunity. Who knows, could have been our Dryden/Roy/Ward/Niemi/Binnington.
Anyway....let's hope we can outscore our problems tomorrow night.
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Going back to Calgary, apparently Mike Smith has now lost 10 straight playoff games. UGLY.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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g2k
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Location: The Hood
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When in doubt
Up the boards and out.
Good night.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 17136
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Location: Edmonton
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| g2k wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:56 |
When in doubt
Up the boards and out.
Good night.
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WRONG!
40 year old vet says up the middle all night long!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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oilfan94
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Whats Skinner up to these days? Rallying behind rookie goalies has worked for teams before.
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g2k
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:58 |
| g2k wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 22:56 |
When in doubt
Up the boards and out.
Good night.
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WRONG!
40 year old vet says up the middle all night long!
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He will lay in bed tonight and tell his wife he made the glorious save after the blunder and team D let him down thereafter.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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HamBlaster
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A lot of good on this team... but not enough great. You need a lot of great to win in the playoffs.
Wasted a hell of a game from McDavid.
Nurse has to figure out how to be a #1 Dman, and fast. Right now, he's a 3/4, at best.
And Smith... WTH
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g2k
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I’m not looking for easy targets. This could have went our way.
I just thought Hyman would be more of a presence in this line up by now.
Perhaps I overrated him.
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stemhovlichski
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Nuge looked bad out there, Puljujarvi was benched for some reason, blender was in effect. Oilers panicked and skated aimlessly for 45 minutes at least, then eased up in the third. Hyman was aggressively forechecking but had no support. Too many: 1 guy trying to win the game on his own instead of aggressive team passing and play. When Kassian threw the big hit, the Kings' attack died. So no one else hit. Even Kane didn't look evil out there.
Not Smith's fault. Who left their man uncovered beside the net to deflect it in?
Dumb play by Smith- yes. Reason they lost? No. Total scramble and breakdown in their own end, like they did most of the game.
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
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g2k
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| stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:06 |
Not Smith's fault. Who left their man uncovered beside the net to deflect it in?
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Seriously?
He had an open man alone in the corner. On his forehand no less.
Koskinen makes that play every day.
Smith tried to be a hero and it cost his team Game 1 of the 2022 playoffs.
EDIT: When asked post game, Smith said he was trying to make something happen. Tried to do too much. In a tight game he can’t afford to make mistakes like that. Admitted it cost them the game. It’s only one game. Move on a worry about game 2.
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stemhovlichski
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| g2k wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:12 |
| stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:06 |
Not Smith's fault. Who left their man uncovered beside the net to deflect it in?
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Seriously?
He had an open man alone in the corner. On his forehand no less.
Koskinen makes that play every day.
Smith tried to be a hero and it cost his team Game 1 of the 2022 playoffs.
EDIT: When asked post game, Smith said he was trying to make something happen. Tried to do too much. In a tight game he can’t afford to make mistake like that. Admitted it cost them the game. It’s only one game. Move on a worry about game 2.
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Saw that in the presser. Man up for the mistake and face the music. Such a great change from the old days of protecting players from the media. But, yeah, seriously, I think Woodcroft got outcoached. It felt like Tippett running the team tonight. In the presser, Connor even said the Oilers gave up too many chances off the Kings' rush - more than they had all season. It was a fustercluck in their own end. I think that the blender, nerves, physical hockey and everybody's favourite wildcard, Steve Kozari, just messed up the amazing game flow the Oilers had to end the season.
Move on to game 2 (as Smith said like 6 times in the presser).
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
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Rutuu
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McDavid over 25mins...and 5 players under 10mins. We're never going to learn are we?
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inverno76
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| Rutuu wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:13 |
McDavid over 25mins...and 5 players under 10mins. We're never going to learn are we?
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I think the early hole decided his ice time. That’s an easy fix……it’s not like we have a history of flat starts.
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inverno76
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Smith did a very Smithian thing.
Puljujarvi needs to find a playoff level. I thought Hyman looked great and he was my OT pick to snipe. Yamo after a terrible first penalty looked unreal. McDavid and Draisaitl were unreal.
We lost a goaltending battle. Quick beat Smith by a wide margin.
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Leia
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I liked the fight and battle for the first 2 periods, coming from behind as they did showed they wanted it. That third period killed us, the early penalites against gave all the momentum to the Kings and they just couldn't pull it back till after the goal.
Quick out danced Smith in this one, but if and of course it's a BIG if we can get at him early on Wednesday and dent his confidence we'll be fine.
If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door.
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K.McC#24
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| Leia wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:24 |
I liked the fight and battle for the first 2 periods, coming from behind as they did showed they wanted it. That third period killed us, the early penalites against gave all the momentum to the Kings and they just couldn't pull it back till after the goal.
Quick out danced Smith in this one, but if and of course it's a BIG if we can get at him early on Wednesday and dent his confidence we'll be fine.
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What's for breakfast, Leia?😁
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Leia
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:27 |
| Leia wrote on Mon, 02 May 2022 23:24 |
I liked the fight and battle for the first 2 periods, coming from behind as they did showed they wanted it. That third period killed us, the early penalites against gave all the momentum to the Kings and they just couldn't pull it back till after the goal.
Quick out danced Smith in this one, but if and of course it's a BIG if we can get at him early on Wednesday and dent his confidence we'll be fine.
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What's for breakfast, Leia?😁
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What ever I have it won't be tasting sweet... What was perhaps more bitter was we had the Kings feed as well, talk about dull....
If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door.
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K.McC#24
Messages: 5373
Registered: March 2004
Location: ALBERTA
5 Cups
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That game was handed to LA with 5 minutes left. WTH are you thinking there, Smith? Just gotta be better next game, all there is to it.
I thought Hyman skated miles tonight with the puck in the o zone but nothing got to the net. Top line was going most of the night. Oilers had chances, Quick outplayed Smith. Thought Kassian had a good game. JP looking pretty pedestrian out there, I don't mind if he doesn't always bury chances, just get yourself in position and get the chances....and if you're big and fast and you're in an offensive funk, don't be the least physical Oiler on the ice. I guess his <8 minutes reflects the level of play. I'm not sure who you promote on the right side, though. Hate to pick on him but they need him.
Fact is they got in an early hole, came back twice but a dumbass error by Smith leads to a goal shortly after. I expected better, they're a better team than they showed tonight.
Better get the next one or they're in trouble.
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