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 Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743590]
Mon, 30 September 2019 10:26 Go to next message
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https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-f-evander-kane-ejected-fo r-abuse-of-officials-1.1373869

This is a weird one. I do tend to agree that the linesman grabbed him unnecessarily and created the problem. Getting up and shoving him was dumb, and I wonder if that big slash at Engelland just before that caught the official too, but it will be interesting to see how the NHL deals with this.

Normally, that kind of push on an official is an automatic suspension - but this one may have some mitigating circumstances. I hope that the official is getting consequences too because his actions were also definitely out of line.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743618 is a reply to message #743590 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 30 September 2019 10:26

https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-f-evander-kane-ejected-fo r-abuse-of-officials-1.1373869

This is a weird one. I do tend to agree that the linesman grabbed him unnecessarily and created the problem. Getting up and shoving him was dumb, and I wonder if that big slash at Engelland just before that caught the official too, but it will be interesting to see how the NHL deals with this.

Normally, that kind of push on an official is an automatic suspension - but this one may have some mitigating circumstances. I hope that the official is getting consequences too because his actions were also definitely out of line.


I think we've seen worse that didn't get a call in game guys throwing linemen around trying to get at someone. Not a Kane fan or of getting physical with refs, but I don't know if that warrants more than a game.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743628 is a reply to message #743590 ]
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Kane should get nothing.

Linesman power tripped in a big way. Kane was not doing anything at the time.

Also. Sometimes these super linesmen should just let players scrap and get it over with. They often put players in danger.

This was dumb. And if he gets games it’s bush league. His brother would get nothing.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743634 is a reply to message #743628 ]
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g2k wrote on Mon, 30 September 2019 16:44

Kane should get nothing.

Linesman power tripped in a big way. Kane was not doing anything at the time.

Also. Sometimes these super linesmen should just let players scrap and get it over with. They often put players in danger.

This was dumb. And if he gets games it’s bush league. His brother would get nothing.

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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743657 is a reply to message #743590 ]
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He was careless with his stick and hit the ref. Ref lost his marbles as did Kane. Both should be suspended in my mind.


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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743658 is a reply to message #743590 ]
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I actually think the NHL got this right. They have to keep the officials happy also. Even under the circumstances, you can't push and shove the ref like that.

It's unfortunate the ref and Kane got tangled up and lost their balance, but that happens. He was trying to break up an altercation. It's happened before and will again.

But it shouldn't have been 10 games, and I'm glad it is not.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743661 is a reply to message #743658 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:20

I actually think the NHL got this right. They have to keep the officials happy also. Even under the circumstances, you can't push and shove the ref like that.

It's unfortunate the ref and Kane got tangled up and lost their balance, but that happens. He was trying to break up an altercation. It's happened before and will again.

But it shouldn't have been 10 games, and I'm glad it is not.


I thought Kane's comments were unfortunate too. He's acting like he was just minding his own business and nothing was happening and then this ref jumped him and threw him to the ice. He was engaged with Engelland including a pretty wicked slash. He was skating towards Engelland again as this happened.

I don't mind the 3-game suspension - he definitely shoved him after getting up - and I hope the NHL is behind the scenes disciplining the linesman too. That was a bad look on everyone.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743679 is a reply to message #743661 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:34

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:20

I actually think the NHL got this right. They have to keep the officials happy also. Even under the circumstances, you can't push and shove the ref like that.

It's unfortunate the ref and Kane got tangled up and lost their balance, but that happens. He was trying to break up an altercation. It's happened before and will again.

But it shouldn't have been 10 games, and I'm glad it is not.


I thought Kane's comments were unfortunate too. He's acting like he was just minding his own business and nothing was happening and then this ref jumped him and threw him to the ice. He was engaged with Engelland including a pretty wicked slash. He was skating towards Engelland again as this happened.

I don't mind the 3-game suspension - he definitely shoved him after getting up - and I hope the NHL is behind the scenes disciplining the linesman too. That was a bad look on everyone.

I think most NHL’ers don’t get 3 games for that. Yes he shoved, but holy crap it was so meh. I’ve seen people swat at flys harder than that.

I don’t think his douche nozzle reaction helped at all though.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743682 is a reply to message #743679 ]
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g2k wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 18:08

Adam wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:34

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:20

I actually think the NHL got this right. They have to keep the officials happy also. Even under the circumstances, you can't push and shove the ref like that.

It's unfortunate the ref and Kane got tangled up and lost their balance, but that happens. He was trying to break up an altercation. It's happened before and will again.

But it shouldn't have been 10 games, and I'm glad it is not.


I thought Kane's comments were unfortunate too. He's acting like he was just minding his own business and nothing was happening and then this ref jumped him and threw him to the ice. He was engaged with Engelland including a pretty wicked slash. He was skating towards Engelland again as this happened.

I don't mind the 3-game suspension - he definitely shoved him after getting up - and I hope the NHL is behind the scenes disciplining the linesman too. That was a bad look on everyone.

I think most NHL’ers don’t get 3 games for that. Yes he shoved, but holy crap it was so meh. I’ve seen people swat at flys harder than that.

I don’t think his douche nozzle reaction helped at all though.

Agree



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #743680 is a reply to message #743658 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 12:20

I actually think the NHL got this right. They have to keep the officials happy also. Even under the circumstances, you can't push and shove the ref like that.

It's unfortunate the ref and Kane got tangled up and lost their balance, but that happens. He was trying to break up an altercation. It's happened before and will again.

But it shouldn't have been 10 games, and I'm glad it is not.


Yeah, this seems pretty straightforward. Maybe the ref was a little too aggressive, but you still don't directly push a ref back. Don't want to ever set a precedent that it's OK to shove a ref because you're mad about something they did.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #744500 is a reply to message #743680 ]
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so... we're not allowed to go after ref's?
Oh man, I've been doing hockey wrong for so long.... Check



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #754665 is a reply to message #744500 ]
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Kane gets suspended again.

https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-evander-kane-suspended-th ree-games-for-elbowing-winnipeg-jets-neal-pionk-1.1443345

"San Jose Sharks forward Evander Kane has been suspended three games for elbowing Winnipeg Jets defenceman Neal Pionk."




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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #754672 is a reply to message #754665 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Sat, 15 February 2020 14:52

Kane gets suspended again.

https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-evander-kane-suspended-th ree-games-for-elbowing-winnipeg-jets-neal-pionk-1.1443345

"San Jose Sharks forward Evander Kane has been suspended three games for elbowing Winnipeg Jets defenceman Neal Pionk."


Kane took to Twitter for his uh, statement (he since deleted it but here’s what he posted) (he’s now reposted it);

‪The fact the NHL Department of Player Safety headed by George Parros continue to pick and choose, who and what they suspend is ridiculous! There have been countless incidents of the same brute through this season and past seasons that have gone unsuspended or fined‬. ‪No one person can tell you what is or what isn’t a suspension in today’s game, it’s a complete guess. There is a major lack of consistency with NHL Department of Player Safety. A completely FLAWED system in so many ways. From the suspensions to appeal rights, it’s baffling to me‬ ‪how we as players agreed to this. You can’t continue to give some players a pass and throw the book at others. There has to be a outside third party making these decisions to remove the bias that transpires in this department headed by George Parros. None of it makes sense.‬

He’s also now retweeted the video of Chara’s cross check to Gallagher’s neck saying “I thought this was a 1 game playoff suspension?”

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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #754675 is a reply to message #754672 ]
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He's not wrong...

No one has any idea how the NHL wheel off justice works and I don't know why the players formally agreed to the implementation of a wheel of justice. Especially the appeal part. That being said, they agreed to it, so act accordingly.



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 Re: Evander Kane - Abuse of Official [message #754734 is a reply to message #754665 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Sat, 15 February 2020 13:52

Kane gets suspended again.

https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-evander-kane-suspended-th ree-games-for-elbowing-winnipeg-jets-neal-pionk-1.1443345

"San Jose Sharks forward Evander Kane has been suspended three games for elbowing Winnipeg Jets defenceman Neal Pionk."


3 games for his 3rd suspension in a little over a year? For a totally intentional reaching elbow trying to get a guy in the head.

Scared to make SJ fans mad?



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