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David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 1m
Lots and lots of talking between Philly & Edmonton. They even ducked out earlier and went for a chat off the draft floor. Talk on floor now
Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug 43s
Mactavish and Lombardi chatting, Howson in there too
Dan Tencer @dantencer 9s
MacT going for a walk. He's cooking. He's up right now shaking and baking something
[Updated on: Sun, 30 June 2013 16:25]
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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Kr55
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lame. Was hoping the oilers get a top goalie prospect and MTL takes FOOOOCALLEEEEE (Button pronunciation) right before our first 2nd round pick.
Wow, and MacT bails on their 37th pick after Fucale is taken for 3 later picks.
[Updated on: Sun, 30 June 2013 16:30]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
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Ragnarok73
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:27 |
lame. Was hoping the oilers get a top goalie prospect and MTL takes FOOOOCALLEEEEE (Button pronunciation) right before our first 2nd round pick.
Wow, and MacT bails on their 37th pick after Fucale is taken for 3 later picks.
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Meh, not sure what to make of this. I guess having 3 picks could be better than having 1 higher one, especially if it's #37.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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Magnum
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#Oilers trade the 37th-overall pick at the 2013 #NHLDraft to the @LAKings for the 57th, 88th and 96th selections.
Wow
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
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Skoobz
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You know what we need more than high potential players or trades for NHLers? LOW picks that won't amount to a hill of crap.
Fire MacT. (Less jokingly now.)
"[It was] really cool to throw on the Oilers gear, the gear that I want to play the rest of my life wearing. It was pretty cool to put it on. With all the history, it was a lot of fun." - Connor McDavid, July 1, 2015
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Ragnarok73
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| Skoobz wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:31 |
You know what we need more than high potential players or trades for NHLers? LOW picks that won't amount to a hill of crap.
Fire MacT. (Less jokingly now.)
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We couldn't really expect to see MacT make any major deals at this point if he hadn't before their 1st round pick. It looks more and more like he's going to see what the market is like once compliance buyouts begin as a source for experienced help.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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mightyreasoner
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| Skoobz wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:31 |
You know what we need more than high potential players or trades for NHLers? LOW picks that won't amount to a hill of crap.
Fire MacT. (Less jokingly now.)
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Did not like that trade with Madison Bowey on the borad.
Yes, I know we drafted Nurse. But Bowey is best player available, and it doesn't hurt adding a solid prospect to the pool. Look at what Pittsburgh has and tell me there's a problem with that.
Especially for a guy who maybe slipped a little, scoop him up when you get the chance.
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 15:42 |
| Skoobz wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:31 |
You know what we need more than high potential players or trades for NHLers? LOW picks that won't amount to a hill of crap.
Fire MacT. (Less jokingly now.)
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Did not like that trade with Madison Bowey on the borad.
Yes, I know we drafted Nurse. But Bowey is best player available, and it doesn't hurt adding a solid prospect to the pool. Look at what Pittsburgh has and tell me there's a problem with that.
Especially for a guy who maybe slipped a little, scoop him up when you get the chance.
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I agree, 100% total freaking stupidity. That guy is going to be great.
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Joanie
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:27 |
lame. Was hoping the oilers get a top goalie prospect and MTL takes FOOOOCALLEEEEE (Button pronunciation) right before our first 2nd round pick.
Wow, and MacT bails on their 37th pick after Fucale is taken for 3 later picks.
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Is this what MacT called a "BOLD MOVE"????
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Kr55
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Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug
Oilers wanted Fucale. Lombardi was at Oiler table, As soon as Fucale was gone Mactavish and Lombardi shook hands, picks swapped.
Makes sense. Guess they didn't have any guys they really wanted this high after Fucale was taken.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
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Prophet
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So, this is the backup plan since Fucale was gone?
"They will play what I tell them to play, for I am the mayor of Albuquerque"
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v4ance
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| Prophet wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:34 |
So, this is the backup plan since Fucale was gone?
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It looks like EDM and Philly were close on Coburn for 2nd+ but EDM cut bait. After that Fucale kept dropping and almost dropped to the Oilers.
Trading back now, will be almost guaranteed to get one of Jarry or Comrie, one of the other 2 top rated goalie prospects.
[Updated on: Sun, 30 June 2013 16:51]
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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nullterm
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LOL, Leafs get Bolland for spare change.
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Magnum
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From Twitter: Oilers and Flyers talking once again
Bold wowing!
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v4ance
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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Sources say the Oilers are still hammering away at the Flyers with Coburn the primary target.
Still aiming for the homerun...
Mike Vogel @VogsCaps 35s
Philly added two D in first 2 rds. @SportsnetSpec By all reports, Oilers working Philly hard throughout draft. Really want Braydon Coburn.
Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug 48s
Holmgren huddling with his table after leaving Mactavish.
It might be a bigger deal? More pieces?
[Updated on: Sun, 30 June 2013 17:03]
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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Magnum
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Well, if nothing happens with all the build up on this, I'm sure they can make promises about free-agent day.
Wow, I've gotten bitter over the past four years.
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v4ance
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Joe Yerdon @JoeYerdonPHT
We should just tell Holmgren and MacTavish to get a room by this point. That or help Braydon Coburn pack his bags.
Dan Tencer @dantencer
Scott Howson just went to talk to Coburn's agent Steve Kotlowitz
Jordan Eberle on his goal scoring: "A lot of guys joke that I have a muffin. Well, it's an accurate muffin, and that's all that counts."
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Kr55
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Oilers trade #57 to St. Louis for 83, 94 and 113.
mmmm, more delicious picks. bolded for effect.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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Prophet
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:17 |
Oilers trade #57 to St. Louis for 83, 94 and 113.
mmmm, more delicious picks.
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Either they think there is a tonne of depth in this draft, or MacT has a gambling addiction and wants more rolls of the dice.
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Magnum
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Well, on the upside, I bought a new pair of Keen sandals today. 
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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Kr55
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lol, credit to hf poster for this:
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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Prophet
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:17 |
Oilers trade #57 to St. Louis for 83, 94 and 113.
mmmm, more delicious picks. bolded for effect.
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83...94... and 113.
So... the next Hemsky, the next Smyth, and the next Jayne Greberle?
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mightyreasoner
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:17 |
Oilers trade #57 to St. Louis for 83, 94 and 113.
mmmm, more delicious picks.
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What's the strategy? Gather more long-shot players?
Thought for a second that Madison Bowey might slip to us again. Too bad. Comes from a great program in Kelowna, would have added another defensive prospect. And a Right-Handed one.
Wonder if Comrie will be around for our next pick.
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mightyreasoner
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:20 |
Wonder if Comrie will be around for our next pick.
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Nope.
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Kr55
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This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day
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Magnum
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:27 |
This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
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Good point, everything moves toward the mean, so get as many chances at going to the mean as possible.
Solid!
MacT PhD
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
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Magnum
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| Magnum wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:45 |
| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:27 |
This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
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Good point, everything moves toward the mean, so get as many chances at going to the mean as possible.
Solid!
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Please delete.
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
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Skookum Jim
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| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:27 |
This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
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Hey, apparently they teach you that at MBA school, more darts win.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Magnum
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 18:21 |
| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:27 |
This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
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Hey, apparently they teach you that at MBA school, more darts win.
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I actually did learn that in business school.
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
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Skookum Jim
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| Magnum wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:25 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 18:21 |
| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:27 |
This is maybe MacT's take on statistical analysis in the NHL? get crap load of picks and one will work out
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Hey, apparently they teach you that at MBA school, more darts win.
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I actually did learn that in business school.
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Unfortunately, with every extra dart you trade for, you have to take more steps back. :)
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Magnum
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:20 |
| oobga wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:17 |
Oilers trade #57 to St. Louis for 83, 94 and 113.
mmmm, more delicious picks.
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What's the strategy? Gather more long-shot players?
Thought for a second that Madison Bowey might slip to us again. Too bad. Comes from a great program in Kelowna, would have added another defensive prospect. And a Right-Handed one.
Wonder if Comrie will be around for our next pick.
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No man, most picks win!
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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What in God's green Earth are the Oilers doing? MacTavish must think this effing draft is deep right to the bitter end.
Let's load up on late, late picks boys! That'll show the fanbase just how much of a crapshoot we honestly think the draft is! Maybe one or two of these random late rounders might pan out, right? Right????
This draft is awful so far. Way to do nothing of any real significance Craig....
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I get the feeling that a Coburn trade is done, but he has a limited NTC so they're probably trying to get him to agree to be on our super appetizing team.
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| JPro wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 16:21 |
I get the feeling that a Coburn trade is done, but he has a limited NTC so they're probably trying to get him to agree to be on our super appetizing team.
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It's done
@Sun_Tychkowski: Coburn deal is dead. "We bounced around a lot of ideas but I wouldn't say we were close." Holmgren on his numerous talks with MacTavish
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mightyreasoner
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Honestly, I wanted the second round picks traded for some roster depth.
Potentially I even had wanted the first round pick traded, if there was a deal that made sense (it seems like there wasn't).
But if we were going to pick, I would have been happy with Nurse, Bowey, and Comrie... all of which were available. I guess we'll see with Roy - don't have anything against him - but the lower you keep trading, the odds of finding an NHLer become less and less.
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I can't count how many times I have refreshed Twitter looking for the WOW deal today. And I'm sure I'm not alone....
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Souray is a Duck is one letter away from being totally accurate.
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You would have to crunch the numbers. Is the probability of a third round pick becoming an NHLer three times more likely than a fifth round pick?
Either way, trade one long shot for three long shots. As long as the scouting has been done, it's a good deal.
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mightyreasoner
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| RankinSpankin wrote on Sun, 30 June 2013 17:50 |
You would have to crunch the numbers. Is the probability of a third round pick becoming an NHLer three times more likely than a fifth round pick?
Either way, trade one long shot for three long shots. As long as the scouting has been done, it's a good deal.
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Without any research done, I'd guess there is a significant drop off between second round picks (especially in the first half) and those in the third and fourth round.
There were some pretty solid prospects still on the board (not flawless, but solid). I'd rather have one or two guys with a better shot of making the NHL, than three or four that have a much longer shot at making the NHL.
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HamBlaster
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You do realize that the Oil have been burned by this theory on multiple occasions, right?
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#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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