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 hemsky8371
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Registered: November 2006
Location: Calgary
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Filling out the AHL roster to give Nilsson, Schremp and Cogliano a shot with the big club this year.
Cogliano will likely be in the AHL next year; but I wouldn't be surprised to see a third line consisting of Nilsson-Pouliot-Schremp. Would be fun to watch I think.
Sanderson - Horcoff - Hemsky
Torres - Stoll - Pisani
Nilsson - Pouliot - Schremp
Moreau - Reasoner - Thoresen
[Updated on: Tue, 17 July 2007 14:07]
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Oilerfansince87
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Location: South Alberta
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I think the Oilers managment has to go into camp this year and tell the players that no ones job is safe. Who ever performs plays. This tactic works well when dealing with younger players and can result in the players giving 110%. Last year alot of laziness set in and they took it for granted that they would be a good team based on the Finals run alone and hardwork took a backseat. MacT has to keep these kids motivated and inline if this young team is going to go anywhere.
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| hemsky8371 wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 14:02 |
Filling out the AHL roster to give Nilsson, Schremp and Cogliano a shot with the big club this year.
Cogliano will likely be in the AHL next year; but I wouldn't be surprised to see a third line consisting of Nilsson-Pouliot-Schremp. Would be fun to watch I think.
Sanderson - Horcoff - Hemsky
Torres - Stoll - Pisani
Nilsson - Pouliot - Schremp
Moreau - Reasoner - Thoresen
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These are the worst freakin' lines I have ever seen. If Sanderson is our 1st line LW we are in serious trouble come October. And I think we've all come to realize that Pisani's home is on the 3rd line. There is not enough offensive creativity between Torres-Stoll and Pisani to have an effective scoring second line. Furthermore, there's no "go-to" scorer as well as not enough offense collectively in order to be competetive. If these are our lines come Oct. 4th we're looking at another season of ranking last in goals as well as an early draft pick.
"Oil is thicker than blood." - The Great One #99
"I'm gonna go there, do my best to make the playoffs and win that cup...so I can bring it down here to Edmonton...because that's where my heart is." - Ryan Smyth #94
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hemsky8371
Messages: 149
Registered: November 2006
Location: Calgary
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| Nitty_Gritty_Smytty wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 15:33 |
| hemsky8371 wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 14:02 |
Filling out the AHL roster to give Nilsson, Schremp and Cogliano a shot with the big club this year.
Cogliano will likely be in the AHL next year; but I wouldn't be surprised to see a third line consisting of Nilsson-Pouliot-Schremp. Would be fun to watch I think.
Sanderson - Horcoff - Hemsky
Torres - Stoll - Pisani
Nilsson - Pouliot - Schremp
Moreau - Reasoner - Thoresen
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These are the worst freakin' lines I have ever seen. If Sanderson is our 1st line LW we are in serious trouble come October. And I think we've all come to realize that Pisani's home is on the 3rd line. There is not enough offensive creativity between Torres-Stoll and Pisani to have an effective scoring second line. Furthermore, there's no "go-to" scorer as well as not enough offense collectively in order to be competetive. If these are our lines come Oct. 4th we're looking at another season of ranking last in goals as well as an early draft pick.
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These lines were formed with the POOR assumption (like SweatyO has previously mentioned) that Kevin Lowe will be unable to get anything done up front for the remainder of the off-season. Obviously, I am able to identify the same issues that you have identified, but at this point in time, with our current roster...it's hard to do much better than that.
Maybe,
Torres-Horcoff-Hemsky
Sanderson-Stoll-Nilsson
Schremp-Pouliot-Pisani
Moreau-Reasoner-Thoresen/Stortini
Still ugly, but you have a baby-sitter for Nilsson in Stoll, and one for Schremp in Pisani.
[Updated on: Tue, 17 July 2007 15:52]
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Riraito
Messages: 46
Registered: March 2007
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I'd like to see..
Nilsson-Horcoff-Hemsky
Torres-Stoll-Schremp
Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
Sanderson-Reasoner-Thoresen
Here you have a creative first line, a decent second line, a strong checking line, and a fast fourth line
People might say we shouldn't place our hopes on Nilsson, but at this point I'd like to see what minimagic can do on a line with Hemsky before we concede that opportunity to Sanderson.
As well, Stoll and Schremp just seems like it will work in my mind. Toss in Torres who can really change the momentum when he shows up, and you've got a 2nd line with a lot of energy and a lot of potential for offence.
The third line I think is a very strong checking line. All 3 players are known for gritty playing styles and defensive ability. Pouliot and Pisani have shown early signs of chemistry in the last stretch of the season. Also, if Moreau does get the C, then he isn't sitting on the 4th line with a hefty salary either.
The 4th line we have Sanderson and Thoresen who are both speedy and agile, and we've got a decent 4th line center in Reasoner.
Another possibility would be to switch Schremp and Nilsson.
Other interesting lines include:
Pouliot-Stoll-Pisani
Moreau-Schremp-Nilsson
Sanderson-Stoll-Nilsson
Torres-Schremp-Pisani
This may be a bit redundant, but I guess I just want to see the lines juggled a lot. I can't wait to see the who's who of training camp either
Just my opinion though. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this
[Updated on: Tue, 17 July 2007 17:19]
"He treats turnovers like doughnuts and ordered a dozen."
-MacT
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Hibernia
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| Riraito wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 19:47 |
... but I guess I just want to see the lines juggled a lot.
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I guess it's safe to say that you're a MacT supporter, then?
Given our current crop of forwards, there's gonna be some rookies in the line-up and with the biggest holes appearing on the top two lines, that seems like the spot those rooks will take at the moment... or MacT is gonna have to do something interesting with the lines with putting vets on the top lines during evenstrength and letting the rookies with the supposed skill play with Hemsky, Stoll and the boys while getting sheltered minutes otherwise.
I guess we'll see, but the one thing I'm sure about is that MacT will have the blender set on high during the season. So, you should get your wish.
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handyman99
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| Riraito wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 16:17 |
I'd like to see..
Nilsson-Horcoff-Hemsky
Torres-Stoll-Schremp
Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
Sanderson-Reasoner-Thoresen
Here you have a creative first line, a decent second line, a strong checking line, and a fast fourth line
People might say we shouldn't place our hopes on Nilsson, but at this point I'd like to see what minimagic can do on a line with Hemsky before we concede that opportunity to Sanderson.
As well, Stoll and Schremp just seems like it will work in my mind. Toss in Torres who can really change the momentum when he shows up, and you've got a 2nd line with a lot of energy and a lot of potential for offence.
The third line I think is a very strong checking line. All 3 players are known for gritty playing styles and defensive ability. Pouliot and Pisani have shown early signs of chemistry in the last stretch of the season. Also, if Moreau does get the C, then he isn't sitting on the 4th line with a hefty salary either.
The 4th line we have Sanderson and Thoresen who are both speedy and agile, and we've got a decent 4th line center in Reasoner.
Another possibility would be to switch Schremp and Nilsson.
Other interesting lines include:
Pouliot-Stoll-Pisani
Moreau-Schremp-Nilsson
Sanderson-Stoll-Nilsson
Torres-Schremp-Pisani
This may be a bit redundant, but I guess I just want to see the lines juggled a lot. I can't wait to see the who's who of training camp either
Just my opinion though. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this
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It's nice to see someone else not put Moreau, a 2 Milllion dollar cap hit, on the 4th line. You're still leaving out Stortini? For regular season hockey, you still need the designated fighter!
Anyone who's putting Sanderson on the 4th line at $1.5 million must think that money grows on trees! He may be moved before too long. Afterall, he was a salary dump by Philly to make the Pitkanen trade happen. An absolute throw-in if there ever was one!
(open) - Horcoff - Hemsky
Torres - Stoll - (open)
Moreau - Pouliot - Pisani
Thoresen - Reasoner - Stortini
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Riraito
Messages: 46
Registered: March 2007
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I know Sanderson is better than a 4th liner, but to me it was a case of if he doesn't do it, then who will? Can't put Moreau or Torres on the 4th line, and I personally think that putting Nilsson on the 4th line would just hurt his development when he can play top minutes on springfield instead. If you don't put him on the 4th line I guess I would put him on the 1st line because I don't think Torres is ready to play on the 1st line.
Sanderson-Horcoff-Hemsky
Torres-Stoll-Nilsson
Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
Thoresen-Reasoner-Stortini
Of course this is all assuming no other transactions occur, but I personally want to see Nilsson get a lot of ice time this season. He was drafted 4 spots ahead of Getzlaf at 15th and I think now's a good time to show us what he can do. I'd be OK with Schremp doing another AHL season, but I want Nilsson on our roster Pouliot also deserves a spot imo, he was drafted that same year at 22nd
[Updated on: Wed, 18 July 2007 11:47]
"He treats turnovers like doughnuts and ordered a dozen."
-MacT
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fanoil
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Registered: July 2007
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I think Sanderson is a 2nd line player, not 3rd or 4th. It wouldn't surprise me to see him match or better Petr Sykora's numbers from last year.
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sbone67
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Location: Edmonton
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| Riraito wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 16:17 |
I'd like to see..
Nilsson-Horcoff-Hemsky
Torres-Stoll-Schremp
Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
Sanderson-Reasoner-Thoresen
Here you have a creative first line, a decent second line, a strong checking line, and a fast fourth line
People might say we shouldn't place our hopes on Nilsson, but at this point I'd like to see what minimagic can do on a line with Hemsky before we concede that opportunity to Sanderson.
As well, Stoll and Schremp just seems like it will work in my mind. Toss in Torres who can really change the momentum when he shows up, and you've got a 2nd line with a lot of energy and a lot of potential for offence.
The third line I think is a very strong checking line. All 3 players are known for gritty playing styles and defensive ability. Pouliot and Pisani have shown early signs of chemistry in the last stretch of the season. Also, if Moreau does get the C, then he isn't sitting on the 4th line with a hefty salary either.
The 4th line we have Sanderson and Thoresen who are both speedy and agile, and we've got a decent 4th line center in Reasoner.
Another possibility would be to switch Schremp and Nilsson.
Other interesting lines include:
Pouliot-Stoll-Pisani
Moreau-Schremp-Nilsson
Sanderson-Stoll-Nilsson
Torres-Schremp-Pisani
This may be a bit redundant, but I guess I just want to see the lines juggled a lot. I can't wait to see the who's who of training camp either
Just my opinion though. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this
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HOLY line Blender Batman! i think there is another peice to add to the wheel in the coming weeks/months.
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I wonder how many young 'prospects' (to which I include any player with less than 2 years experience on our team) will stick with the team this year? Personally I hope we don't keep more than 2-3 on the roster unless we have injuries. We had way too many rookies last year (understandably with injuries I suppose) and it did not work. Pitkanen and Smid are young enough on D and I'm not sure if there's room for 3 young D with Gilbert, given that Matt Greene really isn't what I'd consider a veteran defenceman either. On forward, I suppose you keep 2 of Schremp/Pouliot/Cogliano/JFJaques/Nillson/O'Mara but I think we'd be making a mistake by loading up with rookies. Now that we have our own farm team, let them develop and only keep a couple around at a time.
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Superintendent
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Finally...a call-up for our 8 games against Boogard:
Flinn...6'5'' 248lbs
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Yeah....Flinn's big alright.....but type his name in you-tube and you can watch him get his ass handed to him most of the time...........he's just a larger version of Stortini !
Hockey is Life!
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MJ
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2 AHL fodder for Springfield, Colin McDonald is a long-shot at best to make the team.
But I'm particularly interested in this Ryan Flinn. I think he could give Stortini a run for his money and could win the job as 13th forward / heavyweight to play 50ish games.
Flinn's fight card is here: http://hockeyfights.com/players/430
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Oilerfansince87
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Location: South Alberta
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I like that idea. Stortini is a passionate player but I think Hemsky could whoop his ass in a fight. Stortini is more of a grinder than an enforcer
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IheartAlberta
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Location: San Antonio. TX
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We watched Flinn play for the Rampage here in SA this past season. Most of his fights seemed perfunctory. But that could be b/c the crowd here needs a fight to stay at all engaged, so he kind of has to go looking for them. I'm not sure he keeps his balance well enough to fight the Boogey, but maybe he could at least do a little damage in-kind if we brought him up for those games. He was a crowd pleaser here, for sure, for whatever that says.
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Oilerfansince87
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Boogy needs a stick upside his head to smarten him up. Wheres Maurice Richard when you need him.
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