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Neal had 10 consecutive 20 goal seasons but Peter's decided he didn't like Neal and had no use for him pretty early last season. So he gets his GM to trade him. Rather than just dump Neal for a pick so while you get nothing for the player, you at least get the asset of cap space. They overreact to the AVs whipping them in the playoff, think they lost because they weren't tough enough when in reality it's because their best players didn't play well. So they trade Neal for Lucic. Lucic is a goon, who's skills are gone and who's no longer suited for the NHL.

So they downgrade their team skill, get a player who can't play in the NHL anymore, a player who you basically have to play because he makes too much money to sit and they don't even get cap space. That's how you build a losing team.


I don't doubt that Neal was off his game last year for Calgary. I know flames players/managers/coaches have no experience with playoffs, but there is pretty clear history what a run to the finals does to players. Neal had 2 runs to the finals the last 2 years. And he had to move both summers. He basically went 2 summers in a row not having any opportunity to train properly. He was set up to have a weak season in his first for the Flames. They just had to wait it out and get more from him this year. Instead, they traded for a guy that fell completely off a cliff 2 seasons prior with zero excuses for his play aside from him just sucking.

There is a good chance he wouldn't be scoring like he is if he was still a Flame but I would have put money down he could have gotten 10+ goals for the Flames. I would have guessed 13-14. I don't even know if Lucic will get 5 goals. He's even worse than he was with the Oilers. They even honored his No move. So they have to protect him for expansion.

Neal is on a 44 goal pace. I don't think he gets that but there are 56 games left, chances are he's going to get at least 10 more goals in 56 games. I am going to guess that Lucic manages to fluke in a couple of goals. My guess is he gets 3 for the year. I think it's a slam dunk that Neal outscores Lucic by over 20 goals. As a team, you can't make up that many goals.


If I'm in management with the Flames, I'm starting to have the conversation with Lucic about retirement as the season moves to a close...maybe he's got a nagging injury that's going to take him the whole rest of that contract to recover from? I'm making clear that if he doesn't, his career will end embarrassingly as a healthy scratch for weeks on end since he can't be demoted to the AHL.

It would not surprise me in the least if he develops an allergy to hockey equipment after this season.

For what it's worth, I have the over/under at 2.5 goals for the season. Really weak shooting stats, and cratering shooting percentage equals no threat to score. He's actually shooting more now than he did last year though...so who knows...maybe he can beat Toby Rieder's record from last year!!!

Lucic will waive to be available for Seattle, who will need a couple boat anchor contracts to reach the floor. Then, after a few goodbye laps close to his hometown, he will become allergic to hockey tape and go on IR forever.

Don't you think Seattle will try to be like Vegas? They will want to be good right away.

Vegas didn't take any Lucic's. The bad contracts they did take were LTIR guys. Lucic doesn't get hurt so you'd have to play him.

Nope I think Seattle will be AWFUL. Vegas was a fluke. Teams made some terrible decisions that won't be repeated and the Knights got incredibly lucky with several players they picked. We are going to be gifted 10 standings points a year for the foreseeable future.

6 to 8 points.

If everyone is getting 6 free points, no one is getting anything.


Watch them bounce us to the Metro division to even things out...



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