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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 23:30

Hope the refs are happy

This is why I didn’t want to see the Oil play the $**$&&$ Kings in the first round



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Bull crap

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 23:34

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



I'm not even mad. Seen that game 100 times. Start all hyped, start being idiots and just slowly erode everything that made us good in the 1st.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:35

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 23:34

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



I'm not even mad. Seen that game 100 times. Start all hyped, start being idiots and just slowly erode everything that made us good in the 1st.


Never won game 1 in the McDavid era of any playoffs.




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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 23:34

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



Except Deharnais was tripped before he caused the penalty. And an Oiler was tripped immediately before that. The refs could call a penalty on every play of the night. They let so much go except somehow found a way to call a penalty with 1:50 left. And in OT.

Final penalties were 7-3 in a super chippy game. It's a joke.



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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:34

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



Maybe, but LA committed many similar that weren't called



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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 23:38

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:34

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 17 April 2023 22:30

Hope the refs are happy


I mean we deserved most of those calls. We threw away that game.



Maybe, but LA committed many similar that weren't called


We just did the ones that were easy to call.



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Totally threw away that game. The Oil have themselves to blame for that loss.

Totally unacceptable.

They owned LA for most of that game... and the last period and OT just completely blew it. Terrible loss to take.



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We would have broken every record imaginable if we were allowed to pass from behind the net to a wide open guy camped out directly in front of the net on the PP every night


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Im really not worried. We will smoke them game two


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Not if they make the same mistakes they did in this game. The Oilers slowed down big time in the third and started making lazy mistakes and plays that resulted in penalties. If they do that again, they'll end up in the same damn predicament.

LA is going to come out in Game 2 like a house on fire to get up on the Oilers early. The boys better be ready to weather that storm.



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HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 00:42

Not if they make the same mistakes they did in this game. The Oilers slowed down big time in the third and started making lazy mistakes and plays that resulted in penalties. If they do that again, they'll end up in the same damn predicament.

LA is going to come out in Game 2 like a house on fire to get up on the Oilers early. The boys better be ready to weather that storm.


Concerning...this is the type of loss teams don't usually recover from

Up 3-1...shoot yourself in the foot with some untimely penalties...esp from #2 towards end of regulation

There is still hope though....Capitals had a concerning 2-0 hole against the Panarin led CBJ where they ended up blowing a lead...in game 1 and look how things ended up for them in 2018...

I believe the only time Oilers won a game 1 in the McDavid era was in the 2017 conference semis at Anaheim...nothing at home though...



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 00:14

HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 00:42

Not if they make the same mistakes they did in this game. The Oilers slowed down big time in the third and started making lazy mistakes and plays that resulted in penalties. If they do that again, they'll end up in the same damn predicament.

LA is going to come out in Game 2 like a house on fire to get up on the Oilers early. The boys better be ready to weather that storm.


Concerning...this is the type of loss teams don't usually recover from

Up 3-1...shoot yourself in the foot with some untimely penalties...esp from #2 towards end of regulation

There is still hope though....Capitals had a concerning 2-0 hole against the Panarin led CBJ where they ended up blowing a lead...in game 1 and look how things ended up for them in 2018...

I believe the only time Oilers won a game 1 in the McDavid era was in the 2017 conference semis at Anaheim...nothing at home though...


Lost 4-3 to LA to start last years series :(

Lost a bummer one in OT at home too last series. I remember Keith getting walked by Kempe.

We dominated most of that game, and shot ourselves in the foot. If they can't get the stupid stuff out of their play, then for sure they're done, but hopefully they can learn from their screw ups tonight.



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Oilers were easily the better team for around 45 minutes.

Of the 7 penalties we got, other than the last one, I didn't think any were terrible calls. That said, if that is the standard, then the Kings got away with at least 10 easily callable infractions.

For the most part, the team played pretty well. Seemed to be totally in control. Can't let up until the final whistle. I don't think many adjustments are needed for game 2 other than taking less penalties and not leaving guys wide open in front of the crease in OT.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 06:17



For the most part, the team played pretty well. Seemed to be totally in control. Can't let up until the final whistle. I don't think many adjustments are needed for game 2 other than taking less penalties and not leaving guys wide open in front of the crease in OT.

I agree with this. The Oilers played very well for most of the game and there's no reason why they can't respond tomorrow night. I don't think now is the time to panic. We were never going to get a 16 game winning playoff streak.

I also hate the blame the ref narrative. It wasn't the refs.



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 00:14

HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 00:42

Not if they make the same mistakes they did in this game. The Oilers slowed down big time in the third and started making lazy mistakes and plays that resulted in penalties. If they do that again, they'll end up in the same damn predicament.

LA is going to come out in Game 2 like a house on fire to get up on the Oilers early. The boys better be ready to weather that storm.


Concerning...this is the type of loss teams don't usually recover from

Up 3-1...shoot yourself in the foot with some untimely penalties...esp from #2 towards end of regulation

There is still hope though....Capitals had a concerning 2-0 hole against the Panarin led CBJ where they ended up blowing a lead...in game 1 and look how things ended up for them in 2018...

I believe the only time Oilers won a game 1 in the McDavid era was in the 2017 conference semis at Anaheim...nothing at home though...


I am not concerned about this at all. They were riding a 13-game winning streak, and they got a well-deserved wake-up call that the playoffs are different and that streak no longer matters.

I expect the Oilers to rebound well from this. They were the better team for long stretches last night. They need to be a little smarter about their aggression. That Desharnais penalty in overtime was brutal, but most of the other calls were really obvious ones that would be hard not to call. I like them being a little mean, but you also have to be a little sneaky about it. The cross-check to the face is hard not to call - and while the Kings weren't choirboys last night, they just weren't as uhhh in-your-face about their infractions.

It sucked to lose. I was there in the stands and it sure takes the air out of the building when they score that OT winner. But I was there last year for the same thing when they beat us by turnstiling Duncan Keith. They can celebrate now, but I don't think it's going to last long for them.



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You beat yourselves tonight Oilers. Vinny, Bouch, Kane x2… can’t take those penalties.

First period was great. After that, they fell into the dump n chase Kings gameplan. The leadership group, and Woodcroft, know what TMac schemes. Stop. Playing. Into. Their. Strength.



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This game was so predictable. I'm so PO'd about the loss this morning, but it was so predictably Oilers.

Drai looked so ticked off in the post-game interview; he's tired of this script.

Bad penalties, way too many penalties... terrible timing, lack of maturity and killer instinct...

The supporting cast was good for fifty minutes of this game, and then they all went to sleep.

Connor isn't immune to some critique as well. He was, outside of a few plays, pretty well shut down by LA. Although he did it to himself way too many times... skating himself right into a white shirt and trying to stickhandle in a phone booth, when he could have found space and time. He did not have a good game... sort of surprised to not have the captain come out post-game either.

Anyways, that was predictable. This team doesn't like making things easier for themselves; the harder, the better?

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Ugh, sorry y'all - it's my fault. I went to bed right after 3-1 as I have a big job interview today...

Saw the final, was surprised, but then I wasn't.

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I took my youngest to the game. I thought the Oilers were the better team for 50 mins.

I thought McD except for the 2 shifts where he drew the 2 penalties in a row played pretty poor. The amount of open looks he passed up was enraging. You are the Rocket Richard winner this year, shoot the f-ing puck! It says he had 5 shots but he passed up some absolutely wide, wide open looks. McD was -2 and yup, he deserved to be.

I thought McD's whole line was quiet. Physically Hyman was doing well but generated nothing offensive. I didn't even know Nuge played.

Leon's line was great especially Leon. They were unlucky not to get another one.

Bjugstad's line was effective. Unlucky not to get a goal.

The 4th line looked decent except McLeod. I didn't notice McLeod at all then I look at his stat line and I see why. Pretty much zeros across the board.

I thought the defense was decent. Bouchard had a good game except for the penalty. Can't take that penalty. Big time mistake.

I thought Skinner was just OK. Didn't really have to make a big save. I didn't like the 3rd goal to tie the game.

Korpisalo kept the Kings in it.

I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

What bothered me about the refs isn't that the Oilers took penalties. Some were pretty soft but it's once again the non calls that were definitely on display in OT. I think it was Leon who got dragged to the ice in the offensive zone behind the net. He's skating, King reaches out grabs his arm and pulls him down. I think Foegele was dumped behind the net. I can't remember which Oiler got drilled in the back. On Desharnais's penalty. The King player helped pull him to the ice. So he's skating full speed, gets dragged down, falls and as he is falling because he's 6'6, there is stick and body everywhere and his stick clips his skate which the King made damn sure to go down. So you let a whole wack of stuff go all game, then in OT, you call a game deciding ticky tack call.

I am not too worried. Like I said, I thought the Oilers were the superior team. They just need to clean up a few easy things and stop with the show time on offense.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 08:31


I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

The answer is 100% there is nothing to do in that situation and we should just accept it. Foegele couldn't score a legal goal there without interfering with the goaltend. I actually think he should have had a goaltender interference penalty called on him and the Oilers got away with a free shot. He both impaired the goaltenders ability to make a play and initiated contact with the goalie which are the two criteria for a penalty, either of which results in a penalty.




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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 09:08

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 08:31


I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

The answer is 100% there is nothing to do in that situation and we should just accept it. Foegele couldn't score a legal goal there without interfering with the goaltend. I actually think he should have had a goaltender interference penalty called on him and the Oilers got away with a free shot. He both impaired the goaltenders ability to make a play and initiated contact with the goalie which are the two criteria for a penalty, either of which results in a penalty.



I agree. Foegele did fall into Korpisalo and it contributed to the goal. I just find it extremely frustrating because there was no fault by him. If a player does something wrong, they should be penalized for it. He did is job, he went to the net, if he doesn't get touched, nothing happens. He gets drilled from behind and the defender pushed him towards his goalie. Sometimes if there is contact a player can make sure he falls a certain way. This wasn't the case. There was no way he could have gotten out of the way of the goalie with what the Kings players did to him and it cost the team a goal. I get why the goal was called off, I just don't think it's right. It was 100% the Kings players fault his goalie was interfered with so why do the Kings get a call that benefits them completely. The Oilers didn't even get a PP out of it. The King drilled a player in the back, that's a penalty.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 09:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 09:08

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 08:31


I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

The answer is 100% there is nothing to do in that situation and we should just accept it. Foegele couldn't score a legal goal there without interfering with the goaltend. I actually think he should have had a goaltender interference penalty called on him and the Oilers got away with a free shot. He both impaired the goaltenders ability to make a play and initiated contact with the goalie which are the two criteria for a penalty, either of which results in a penalty.



I agree. Foegele did fall into Korpisalo and it contributed to the goal. I just find it extremely frustrating because there was no fault by him. If a player does something wrong, they should be penalized for it. He did is job, he went to the net, if he doesn't get touched, nothing happens. He gets drilled from behind and the defender pushed him towards his goalie. Sometimes if there is contact a player can make sure he falls a certain way. This wasn't the case. There was no way he could have gotten out of the way of the goalie with what the Kings players did to him and it cost the team a goal. I get why the goal was called off, I just don't think it's right. It was 100% the Kings players fault his goalie was interfered with so why do the Kings get a call that benefits them completely. The Oilers didn't even get a PP out of it. The King drilled a player in the back, that's a penalty.

I did put the blame on Foegele. He drove the net when he didn't have position. I thought he was making his dive at the net (iirc) before he was hit. Like I said, he should have got the penalty.

I couldn't find a clip so this is all from memory, but this was the prevailing conversation from the couch last night.



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I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

The answer is 100% there is nothing to do in that situation and we should just accept it. Foegele couldn't score a legal goal there without interfering with the goaltend. I actually think he should have had a goaltender interference penalty called on him and the Oilers got away with a free shot. He both impaired the goaltenders ability to make a play and initiated contact with the goalie which are the two criteria for a penalty, either of which results in a penalty.



I agree. Foegele did fall into Korpisalo and it contributed to the goal. I just find it extremely frustrating because there was no fault by him. If a player does something wrong, they should be penalized for it. He did is job, he went to the net, if he doesn't get touched, nothing happens. He gets drilled from behind and the defender pushed him towards his goalie. Sometimes if there is contact a player can make sure he falls a certain way. This wasn't the case. There was no way he could have gotten out of the way of the goalie with what the Kings players did to him and it cost the team a goal. I get why the goal was called off, I just don't think it's right. It was 100% the Kings players fault his goalie was interfered with so why do the Kings get a call that benefits them completely. The Oilers didn't even get a PP out of it. The King drilled a player in the back, that's a penalty.

I did put the blame on Foegele. He drove the net when he didn't have position. I thought he was making his dive at the net (iirc) before he was hit. Like I said, he should have got the penalty.

I couldn't find a clip so this is all from memory, but this was the prevailing conversation from the couch last night.

I was sitting in the Oilers attack twice end looking down on him and saw the Kings player come rushing behind him and drill him in the back. I guess we have differing view points. I don't see how a hockey player is expected when he is moving in one direction to stop off all of his forward momentum when an opposing player drills him in the back. Laws of physics say when an object rams into another object, that object is going to propel forward. So I don't know how you fault Foegele on that what so ever other than I guess you expect him not to go near the net.



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Nah. He drove in from the blue line, was reckless from the circle, and initiated contact with his right leg. The defender is allowed to play defense and the goaltender should be allowed to make a save. This is why I bristle at blaming the refs.

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I hope so, and I'm going to be shocked if the following don't happen:
-L1 gets on the board more than once and is the Oilers best unit
-they keep their sticks to themselves and cut their penalties at least in half. I look at what Bouchard did with a couple minutes left and we'd better see no more of that given the situation in game. That was horrible.
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 09:31

I took my youngest to the game. I thought the Oilers were the better team for 50 mins.

I thought McD except for the 2 shifts where he drew the 2 penalties in a row played pretty poor. The amount of open looks he passed up was enraging. You are the Rocket Richard winner this year, shoot the f-ing puck! It says he had 5 shots but he passed up some absolutely wide, wide open looks. McD was -2 and yup, he deserved to be.

I thought McD's whole line was quiet. Physically Hyman was doing well but generated nothing offensive. I didn't even know Nuge played.

Leon's line was great especially Leon. They were unlucky not to get another one.

Bjugstad's line was effective. Unlucky not to get a goal.

The 4th line looked decent except McLeod. I didn't notice McLeod at all then I look at his stat line and I see why. Pretty much zeros across the board.

I thought the defense was decent. Bouchard had a good game except for the penalty. Can't take that penalty. Big time mistake.

I thought Skinner was just OK. Didn't really have to make a big save. I didn't like the 3rd goal to tie the game.

Korpisalo kept the Kings in it.

I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

What bothered me about the refs isn't that the Oilers took penalties. Some were pretty soft but it's once again the non calls that were definitely on display in OT. I think it was Leon who got dragged to the ice in the offensive zone behind the net. He's skating, King reaches out grabs his arm and pulls him down. I think Foegele was dumped behind the net. I can't remember which Oiler got drilled in the back. On Desharnais's penalty. The King player helped pull him to the ice. So he's skating full speed, gets dragged down, falls and as he is falling because he's 6'6, there is stick and body everywhere and his stick clips his skate which the King made damn sure to go down. So you let a whole wack of stuff go all game, then in OT, you call a game deciding ticky tack call.

I am not too worried. Like I said, I thought the Oilers were the superior team. They just need to clean up a few easy things and stop with the show time on offense.


Great analysis...sucks how you didn't get the result you guys deserved watching it live.

As much as last night pissed me off, the biggest issue were the Oilers letting role players from the Kings "live rent free in their heads" despite themselves holding a 2 goal lead & absolutely outplaying them for a vast majority.....that...cannot happen.

You can bring the aggression and physicality while leaving the excess frustration to the side.



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 10:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 09:31

I took my youngest to the game. I thought the Oilers were the better team for 50 mins.

I thought McD except for the 2 shifts where he drew the 2 penalties in a row played pretty poor. The amount of open looks he passed up was enraging. You are the Rocket Richard winner this year, shoot the f-ing puck! It says he had 5 shots but he passed up some absolutely wide, wide open looks. McD was -2 and yup, he deserved to be.

I thought McD's whole line was quiet. Physically Hyman was doing well but generated nothing offensive. I didn't even know Nuge played.

Leon's line was great especially Leon. They were unlucky not to get another one.

Bjugstad's line was effective. Unlucky not to get a goal.

The 4th line looked decent except McLeod. I didn't notice McLeod at all then I look at his stat line and I see why. Pretty much zeros across the board.

I thought the defense was decent. Bouchard had a good game except for the penalty. Can't take that penalty. Big time mistake.

I thought Skinner was just OK. Didn't really have to make a big save. I didn't like the 3rd goal to tie the game.

Korpisalo kept the Kings in it.

I thought the refs played a HUGE role in the game. First period I think it was Foegele got a goal called back for goalie interference. Did he hit into the goalie that probably helped the goal? 100% yes. But I would like to know from the league, what was he supposed to do? He was driving the net to go after the puck which is allowed and part of the game. A Kings player from behind jumps on his back and drives him to the ice into his goalie. So you penalize the Oilers player for being unable to support a 200+ lbs King defender laying on his back? I am fine with the goal being called back, I just would like to hear for future situations, what you expect a person to do in that situation so it counts next time. The answer can't be there is nothing you can do, just accept it.

What bothered me about the refs isn't that the Oilers took penalties. Some were pretty soft but it's once again the non calls that were definitely on display in OT. I think it was Leon who got dragged to the ice in the offensive zone behind the net. He's skating, King reaches out grabs his arm and pulls him down. I think Foegele was dumped behind the net. I can't remember which Oiler got drilled in the back. On Desharnais's penalty. The King player helped pull him to the ice. So he's skating full speed, gets dragged down, falls and as he is falling because he's 6'6, there is stick and body everywhere and his stick clips his skate which the King made damn sure to go down. So you let a whole wack of stuff go all game, then in OT, you call a game deciding ticky tack call.

I am not too worried. Like I said, I thought the Oilers were the superior team. They just need to clean up a few easy things and stop with the show time on offense.


Great analysis...sucks how you didn't get the result you guys deserved watching it live.

As much as last night pissed me off, the biggest issue were the Oilers letting role players from the Kings "live rent free in their heads" despite themselves holding a 2 goal lead & absolutely outplaying them for a vast majority.....that...cannot happen.

You can bring the aggression and physicality while leaving the excess frustration to the side.


I do wonder if the Oilers aggression tapered off because they were afraid to take more penalties. PP's were 6-3 for the Kings. I don't think the Kings took a single penalty after the early one in the second period. I don't see how that is possible to do if you are the Kings and you were trailing for the whole game.

I am not blaming the loss on the refs, the Oilers needed to lock that down somehow but the refs did play a big hand in the game. To me it looked like the refs were VERY aware that the Oilers have a record setting PP and did not want that record setting PP to be the deciding factor in the game. Yes most of the Oilers penalties were penalties but the refs let a TON go for the Kings from early in the second on.



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Sure bad calls, but good teams face bad calls all the time.

The oilers lost this one, full stop. Lost the play with 10 minutes left and momentum carried the Kings to the end. Give the Kings full credit, they bared down being behind by 2 almost the entire game and won it in overtime.

If anything that is a terrible loss the Oilers took, and by God I hope that they come out in game 2 with that singed on their brow knowing you need to play an end to end hockey with a full 60 to win games in the playoffs. They know this and yet let it slip away.

Nah guys, reffing was one thing but they didn't lose them the game.

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If I was making changes to the lines, I would swap out Yamo with someone. Maybe Foegele. I don't think Yamo is doing enough to be in the top 6.


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Oilers probably bring the game home if that utterly stupid Bouchard penalty doesn't happen.

Reffing was uneven, sure, but discipline was a bigger issue.

LD, Foegele, Bjugstad stood out for me. L1 didnt have it...well they didnt close the deal on opportunities. Connor and Nuge pass too much, Hyman doesn't pass enough. Weird that Connor is dishing so much down the stretch and in a playoff game.

Skinner I thought saw everything, needed one or 2 more stops. Mediocre from Skinny. There is a path to a win also if Skinner gives a top end outing, he didn't.

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2.Play 12 Forwards.. 6 Defense 4 / 33%

What would you do? ..
11 Forwards + 7D .. or keep it the same.. 12 Forwards + 6 D




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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 23:19

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Stay 12/6. But swap Nuge and Kane, elevate Foegele and demote yamo.

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 19 April 2023 02:56

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 18 April 2023 23:19

What would you do? ..
11 Forwards + 7D .. or keep it the same.. 12 Forwards + 6 D





Stay 12/6. But swap Nuge and Kane, elevate Foegele and demote yamo.

Kane-McDavid-Hyman
Nuge-Drai-Foegele
Kostin-Bjugstad-Janmark
McLeod-Ryan-Yamo

Yes, Drai scored twice at 5v5… assisted on the first goal, Janmark who wasn’t his regular linemate and then an unassisted 2nd. That 4L is tiiiny tho. Woof.


To me, Yamo really doesn't belong in the top 6. He had a nice little stretch at the end of March this year where he got 7 points in 7 games, and other than that you need to go back to his "breakout" season 3 years ago when he put up 26 points in 27 games. I know it's not ONLY about points, but since that impressive 19-20 season, he's gone on to put up a paltry 87 points in 191 games - that's a 37 point/season pace, playing 16:39/game, most of it with the either of the 2 best Cs on the planet. That's not good enough. His pts/60 of 1.56 ranks him 295th amongst all forwards in the NHL. If you only look at ES, his 1.642/60 puts him 260th. Either way well outside of top 6 numbers. And this is while playing most of his time (I think) with Draisaitl or McDavid? I'm not sure we would be losing a whole lot having him sit a game or two. confused2

I don't hate the guy - in fact I was quite high on him a few years ago and excited to see what the future would bring for him, but he's been given as much opportunity as he could ever hope for, and it's just not happening for him.



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