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Today is apparently the day to put people on waivers if the team wants to buy them out by tomorrow. From all the noise, it sounds like Holland wants more flexibility now, and is willing to give up dead cap space later to get there, so it won't surprise me to see Neal bought out, and possibly Koskinen too.

If they don't buy out Koskinen, I expect they're going to find him a new home. I don't anticipate the team going in to next season with the same tandem...although we said the same thing last year, so who knows!



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Adam wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:07

Today is apparently the day to put people on waivers if the team wants to buy them out by tomorrow. From all the noise, it sounds like Holland wants more flexibility now, and is willing to give up dead cap space later to get there, so it won't surprise me to see Neal bought out, and possibly Koskinen too.

If they don't buy out Koskinen, I expect they're going to find him a new home. I don't anticipate the team going in to next season with the same tandem...although we said the same thing last year, so who knows!


Gregor claiming a deal to move Neal fell through. If there is nothing, probably see him getting bought out. So claims the Gregor at least.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:11

Adam wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:07

Today is apparently the day to put people on waivers if the team wants to buy them out by tomorrow. From all the noise, it sounds like Holland wants more flexibility now, and is willing to give up dead cap space later to get there, so it won't surprise me to see Neal bought out, and possibly Koskinen too.

If they don't buy out Koskinen, I expect they're going to find him a new home. I don't anticipate the team going in to next season with the same tandem...although we said the same thing last year, so who knows!


Gregor claiming a deal to move Neal fell through. If there is nothing, probably see him getting bought out. So claims the Gregor at least.


Given all the cap-freedom deals (other than the Keith one), I shudder to think the price to move Neal's contract this summer. With so many picks unavailable to us to trade even for next year, gotta think the ask starts with the first rounder...

Personally, I think I'd just bury Neal in the minors, or help him find out that he's developed a career-ending injury. I HATE the idea of paying him for the next 4 years...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:11

Adam wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:07

Today is apparently the day to put people on waivers if the team wants to buy them out by tomorrow. From all the noise, it sounds like Holland wants more flexibility now, and is willing to give up dead cap space later to get there, so it won't surprise me to see Neal bought out, and possibly Koskinen too.

If they don't buy out Koskinen, I expect they're going to find him a new home. I don't anticipate the team going in to next season with the same tandem...although we said the same thing last year, so who knows!


Gregor claiming a deal to move Neal fell through. If there is nothing, probably see him getting bought out. So claims the Gregor at least.


Given all the cap-freedom deals (other than the Keith one), I shudder to think the price to move Neal's contract this summer. With so many picks unavailable to us to trade even for next year, gotta think the ask starts with the first rounder...

Personally, I think I'd just bury Neal in the minors, or help him find out that he's developed a career-ending injury. I HATE the idea of paying him for the next 4 years...


Yeah, Neal seems like a guy that Lou would already have on LTIR. Although, Lou couldn't get Ladd to piss off, so maybe some guys are just too stubborn. If Neal wants to play, then it's buyout, minors to save the 1.1M, or trade.


Sidenote from Capfriendly:


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Teams can still place players on Unconditional Waivers tomorrow for the purpose of a buyout, even though it takes 24 hours to clear waivers.

The buyout can go through on the same day with the expectation that the player will clear waivers the following day.


Guess this can all drag out another day before we know for sure what Holland is doing.



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Where is the promised Kassian trade that was used to justify using a protected spot for him?


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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:27

Where is the promised Kassian trade that was used to justify using a protected spot for him?

It probably fell through. If you're negotiating and you start to feel like you are squeezing the other guy, it's best just to back off. They'll appreciate it and let you win a trade later on.



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Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


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Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-jake-virtanen-d enies-alleged-sexual-assault-court-documents/

It's a no from me.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 14:19

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-jake-virtanen-d enies-alleged-sexual-assault-court-documents/

It's a no from me.


That's not ideal.





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Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247



Clean house or bust

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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:22

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247


Bergevin calls dibs. Along with D'Angelo probably.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 14:26

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:22

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247


Bergevin calls dibs. Along with D'Angelo probably.


Get Voynov in there too!



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:26

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:22

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247


Bergevin calls dibs. Along with D'Angelo probably.


Bidding war between Montreal and Chicago?? 🤔



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bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:59

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:26

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:22

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247


Bergevin calls dibs. Along with D'Angelo probably.


Bidding war between Montreal and Chicago?? 🤔



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 18:40

bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:59

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:26

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:22

Mike wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 10:15

Jake Virtanen being bought out. Any interest in him? Honestly I never paid much attention to him, but remember him being pretty highly touted. What's his deal?


Whether true or not, he is right in the middle of a sexual assault lawsuit.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-canucks-jake-virtan en-denies-alleged-sexual-assault-1.6061247


Bergevin calls dibs. Along with D'Angelo probably.


Bidding war between Montreal and Chicago?? 🤔



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Running out of time! I just asked James Neal and Mikko Koskinen to commit some crimes so that the @CanadiensMTL will want them.



Pretty sure we could find something...



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Can still put players on waivers tomorrow with the intention of a buyout. Per cap friendly. If Holland can’t get this rumoured Arizona deal to come to fruition, then I’m sure we’ll see Neal (or koski. Or both) on waivers with the buyout tomorrow


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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:55

Can still put players on waivers tomorrow with the intention of a buyout. Per cap friendly. If Holland can’t get this rumoured Arizona deal to come to fruition, then I’m sure we’ll see Neal (or koski. Or both) on waivers with the buyout tomorrow


Arizona is still hungry for picks and Holland hates wasting a day at a draft. Trade our 1st (2022), Benson, Neal and Koskinen for Kuemper and Crouse. Sign a brand new bunch of bargain binners and put your feet up Kenny.



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 12:16

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:55

Can still put players on waivers tomorrow with the intention of a buyout. Per cap friendly. If Holland can’t get this rumoured Arizona deal to come to fruition, then I’m sure we’ll see Neal (or koski. Or both) on waivers with the buyout tomorrow


Arizona is still hungry for picks and Holland hates wasting a day at a draft. Trade our 1st (2022), Benson, Neal and Koskinen for Kuemper and Crouse. Sign a brand new bunch of bargain binners and put your feet up Kenny.


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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 16:24

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 12:16

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 26 July 2021 11:55

Can still put players on waivers tomorrow with the intention of a buyout. Per cap friendly. If Holland can’t get this rumoured Arizona deal to come to fruition, then I’m sure we’ll see Neal (or koski. Or both) on waivers with the buyout tomorrow


Arizona is still hungry for picks and Holland hates wasting a day at a draft. Trade our 1st (2022), Benson, Neal and Koskinen for Kuemper and Crouse. Sign a brand new bunch of bargain binners and put your feet up Kenny.


Think the north sask river would rise a few feet with all the excess fluids from excited fans in YEG


Count me as skeptical on Kuemper. Crouse is just a guy.



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