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I really hope that the brass are looking at offloading this guy. I don't think there's another dude in that dressing that gets as down about everything as Adam. Can't handle the puck, makes bad choices with outlet passes (Chiasson gets destroyed) and takes bad penalties.

He's a liability on this team and I think it's time to ship him off for a forward, while he still has some value.

Who do you think we could get for him?



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Lars for Taylor Hall.

Who says no?



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Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 11:51

Lars for Taylor Hall.

Who says no?

I’m in.
a) NJ needs defence
b) Hilarious!



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 13:01

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 11:51

Lars for Taylor Hall.

Who says no?

I’m in.
a) NJ needs defence
b) Hilarious!

I mean heck chuck in a draft pick and it’s a net win for Shero Wave Towel



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On the topic of Adam Larsson... Oilers Nation saying Lars will have a hearing for that elbow now?


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Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 12:26

On the topic of Adam Larsson... Oilers Nation saying Lars will have a hearing for that elbow now?


Any mention of a hearing from sports news sources seem to have disappeared from the internet.


And yeah, we should be looking at if we can get something worthwhile still for Larsson. I'm not seeing any recovery in his game so far. And I'm not even sure I am that interested in what he could recover to anymore.



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I am not advocating to trade Larsson but I also would be surprised if both Russell and Larsson are on the team next year. I could potentially see both being gone next year.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 13:46

I am not advocating to trade Larsson but I also would be surprised if both Russell and Larsson are on the team next year. I could potentially see both being gone next year.


If they’re going to be successful in getting a top 6 winger, one of these guys’ salaries will have to be freed up.



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Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 13:18

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 13:46

I am not advocating to trade Larsson but I also would be surprised if both Russell and Larsson are on the team next year. I could potentially see both being gone next year.


If they’re going to be successful in getting a top 6 winger, one of these guys’ salaries will have to be freed up.

There is that but they also need to make room for some of the younger guys. As Bear proved, the young guys can play.

Jones has had the odd poor game but for the most part, he's been solid. Chances are he will get better.

Persson showed somethings I just think he needs time to adjust to the north American style of hockey AND Struddy has said several times, he needs to get into NHL shape because there is a difference. But I think there is a player there.

Bouchard is going to play. It's a matter of when.

So they need to make room for them.



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I think you have to look at moving Larsson, Russell or both this summer. If there's a deal to be made involving something coming back that helps the team this year, then you have to consider it. That said, playoff teams need depth and I don't see the absolute need to trade either before the end of the season. Both players would play in a playoff series this season, so why move them now? If you're going after a rental winger, the other team isn't going to want Russel, and probably not Larsson. I think we need to be careful about trading away too many vets too quickly just because we have some young depth. Bouchard will probably need all of this year and possibly next in the A. Broberg has yet to play in North America, and may need 2 years in the A.



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Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:31

Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


I've like Manning's game better than Larsson's this year. A lot of it I'm basing on expectations of what they should both bring. Manning gets way too much hate around here.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:00

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:31

Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


I've like Manning's game better than Larsson's this year. A lot of it I'm basing on expectations of what they should both bring. Manning gets way too much hate around here.


The universe might be sending us a sign, as Hall's career in Jersey is coming to an end :)

That was just an unbelievable sequence for him last game. Suicide pass to get Chaisson destroyed, then elbow up on a midget to get himself kicked out of the game.

His passing is still bad. He's never gonna look good playing with Russell or Nurse. Klef may the only D on this team he can potentially look like a solid top 4 guy with now.

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WhoreableGuy wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:00

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:31

Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


I've like Manning's game better than Larsson's this year. A lot of it I'm basing on expectations of what they should both bring. Manning gets way too much hate around here.


I think your expectations might be a bit off considering we have not even had a full healthy game from Adam Larsson. I am not a huge fan, but coming off a broken leg where he couldn't skate likely has affected his comeback. 4 games is not enough time to anoint Manning as the better dman.



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inverno76 wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:54

WhoreableGuy wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:00

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:31

Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


I've like Manning's game better than Larsson's this year. A lot of it I'm basing on expectations of what they should both bring. Manning gets way too much hate around here.


I think your expectations might be a bit off considering we have not even had a full healthy game from Adam Larsson. I am not a huge fan, but coming off a broken leg where he couldn't skate likely has affected his comeback. 4 games is not enough time to anoint Manning as the better dman.


I'll take Larsson on 1 leg over Manning on 4 legs. Manning is just clueless in terms of positional sense which is why he keeps coughing up odd-man rushes and making bad pinch decisions. Ideally, he never draws into a game in an Oiler jersey ever again, though I'm fairly sure we're going to see him in the roster on Saturday....



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 14:05

inverno76 wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:54

WhoreableGuy wrote on Fri, 29 November 2019 12:00

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:31

Hold off on moving Larsson until Bouchard is ready to play at the NHL level. Otherwise, Manning could still be drawing into games, and that is just horrific.


I've like Manning's game better than Larsson's this year. A lot of it I'm basing on expectations of what they should both bring. Manning gets way too much hate around here.


I think your expectations might be a bit off considering we have not even had a full healthy game from Adam Larsson. I am not a huge fan, but coming off a broken leg where he couldn't skate likely has affected his comeback. 4 games is not enough time to anoint Manning as the better dman.


I'll take Larsson on 1 leg over Manning on 4 legs. Manning is just clueless in terms of positional sense which is why he keeps coughing up odd-man rushes and making bad pinch decisions. Ideally, he never draws into a game in an Oiler jersey ever again, though I'm fairly sure we're going to see him in the roster on Saturday....


This is exactly right.
Some Oiler fans have a weird love affair with plugs and Manning is an example. He is the Oilers worst defensman this year and it isnt close. Even in limited soft minutes on the third pairing he often looks terrible and needs to be bailed out.
I would be happy if he never saw the ice again.
On the other hand those same fans are always in a hurry to trade a player who can or does serve a useful role.

As far as trading Larsson it HAS to be in a move that makes the team better. The Oilers finally have a just passable NHL D group trading Larsson would expose the lack of depth really fast.
We saw last game that Jones isnt ready for a more advanced role. Davidson I addressed above. Benning is JUST barely passable on the third pair and couldn't play higher.
The Oilers would have to very sure that the have a equally priced or cheaper replacement that is 100% ready to step in before they can afford to move anyone from the D group.



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As far as trading Larsson it HAS to be in a move that makes the team better. The Oilers finally have a just passable NHL D group trading Larsson would expose the lack of depth really fast.
We saw last game that Jones isnt ready for a more advanced role. Davidson I addressed above. Benning is JUST barely passable on the third pair and couldn't play higher.
The Oilers would have to very sure that the have a equally priced or cheaper replacement that is 100% ready to step in before they can afford to move anyone from the D group.

I agree with all of this. Once Larsson goes, we are one Klefbom or Bear injury away from talking about the draft lottery. Never again!



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JPro wrote on Mon, 02 December 2019 12:20

PlusOne wrote on Sat, 30 November 2019 20:30

As far as trading Larsson it HAS to be in a move that makes the team better. The Oilers finally have a just passable NHL D group trading Larsson would expose the lack of depth really fast.
We saw last game that Jones isnt ready for a more advanced role. Davidson I addressed above. Benning is JUST barely passable on the third pair and couldn't play higher.
The Oilers would have to very sure that the have a equally priced or cheaper replacement that is 100% ready to step in before they can afford to move anyone from the D group.

I agree with all of this. Once Larsson goes, we are one Klefbom or Bear injury away from talking about the draft lottery. Never again!


Exception here is if either Jones starts developing rapidly, or Bouchard comes up and excels. Even a rebound by Persson could help - he looked pretty good early in the year.

I'm VERY comfortable with the Oilers cutting loose Russell if they can, but I think Larsson is still up the depth chart there and I'm a little more leery of a deal involving him in-season this year. Next summer? Well, maybe.



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If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.


I respect you’re respectful disagreement.

I know I’m in the minority around here with my liking Russell. Not saying I like his price tag. But come playoff time, I’d be more than happy having him on the third pair and 2nd P.K. unit.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 18:26

Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.


I respect you’re respectful disagreement.

I know I’m in the minority around here with my liking Russell. Not saying I like his price tag. But come playoff time, I’d be more than happy having him on the third pair and 2nd P.K. unit.


Dont worry, Klefbom has taken over as the shot blocking specialist. He is 30 in front of Russell and leads the entire league in blocked shots!

As far as thinking "big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson" that is now a myth as well. I dont know if it is his lingering back issues or what but last year and for the few games this year he has looked soft as butter



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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 20:42

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 18:26

Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.


I respect you’re respectful disagreement.

I know I’m in the minority around here with my liking Russell. Not saying I like his price tag. But come playoff time, I’d be more than happy having him on the third pair and 2nd P.K. unit.


Dont worry, Klefbom has taken over as the shot blocking specialist. He is 30 in front of Russell and leads the entire league in blocked shots!

As far as thinking "big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson" that is now a myth as well. I dont know if it is his lingering back issues or what but last year and for the few games this year he has looked soft as butter


Klefbom was labouring after blocking that last shot at the end of the period just now... if he misses time it’s on you icon_wink



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 21:21

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 20:42

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 18:26

Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.


I respect you’re respectful disagreement.

I know I’m in the minority around here with my liking Russell. Not saying I like his price tag. But come playoff time, I’d be more than happy having him on the third pair and 2nd P.K. unit.


Dont worry, Klefbom has taken over as the shot blocking specialist. He is 30 in front of Russell and leads the entire league in blocked shots!

As far as thinking "big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson" that is now a myth as well. I dont know if it is his lingering back issues or what but last year and for the few games this year he has looked soft as butter


Klefbom was labouring after blocking that last shot at the end of the period just now... if he misses time it’s on you icon_wink


Nope, that is all on him for trying to out cowboy Russell. The truculence gods will have none of that and will strike him down



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 Re: Trading Larsson [message #748671 is a reply to message #748657 ]
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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 19:42

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Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:54

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.


I respect you’re respectful disagreement.

I know I’m in the minority around here with my liking Russell. Not saying I like his price tag. But come playoff time, I’d be more than happy having him on the third pair and 2nd P.K. unit.


Dont worry, Klefbom has taken over as the shot blocking specialist. He is 30 in front of Russell and leads the entire league in blocked shots!

As far as thinking "big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson" that is now a myth as well. I dont know if it is his lingering back issues or what but last year and for the few games this year he has looked soft as butter



Klef has been the teams babysitter this year :) He's done well playing with so many inexperienced D.

Man, I really wish Klef/Larsson of 2016/17 could come back. We would be in good shape in the top 4 if that form could come back.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.

I agree with you. Shot blocking plays a role in hockey like it or not but in the playoffs, most guys are willing to sell out to block shots. So I wouldn't be worried if the Oilers lost Russell, they wouldn't block enough shots. In my opinion especially in the playoffs, you need your defense core to have dmen that can skate, move the puck, be physical and win puck battles. Russell can skate, that's about it.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 December 2019 09:34

Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.

I agree with you. Shot blocking plays a role in hockey like it or not but in the playoffs, most guys are willing to sell out to block shots. So I wouldn't be worried if the Oilers lost Russell, they wouldn't block enough shots. In my opinion especially in the playoffs, you need your defense core to have dmen that can skate, move the puck, be physical and win puck battles. Russell can skate, that's about it.


McDavid CF% without Russell: 49.93%
McDavid CF% with Russell: 38.89%
Russell CF% without McDavid: 47.55%


That's just weird. Although, Russell without McDavid probably means he's playing against some weak competition, while McDavid is always drawing the best from other teams with or without Russell.

Regardless. That number together is butt ugly, and I wouldn't worry at all seeing Russell go. Dude still is a player that ensures you are consistently spending more time in your own end than the offensive zone because of his lack of puck moving ability. If he wasn't so good at shot blocking, he would be an AHLer already. The shot blocking kind of makes up for him being a detriment at almost everything else to do with playing hockey.

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 Re: Trading Larsson [message #748749 is a reply to message #748745 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 December 2019 10:09

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 December 2019 09:34

Adam wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:54

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 16:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 04 December 2019 17:33

If the Oilers make the playoffs this year, a guy like Larsson is very valuable. We all know the refs put the whistle away and it becomes a battle royal so a big, nasty, physical guy like Larsson is a playoff dman. I think you can live without a Russell in the playoffs. He's a vet so that is a small plus for him but he's not big or physical.




I think Russell is the type of guy you want in the playoffs too. Dude has no fear, will block anything in sight too. *knock on wood* if we make it this year, I think you’d want as much better presence possible especially with Bear, Jones, Persson around.




Respectfully, I disagree. He was fine in the playoffs his first year with Edmonton, but he was far from a big contributor. The playoffs showed how much it hurt to lose Klefbom and Sekera...puck moving guys...more than it showed any need for a cowboy who blocks a lot of rubber.

Give me a puck-moving defenceman over Russell any day of the week.

I agree with you. Shot blocking plays a role in hockey like it or not but in the playoffs, most guys are willing to sell out to block shots. So I wouldn't be worried if the Oilers lost Russell, they wouldn't block enough shots. In my opinion especially in the playoffs, you need your defense core to have dmen that can skate, move the puck, be physical and win puck battles. Russell can skate, that's about it.


McDavid CF% without Russell: 49.93%
McDavid CF% with Russell: 38.89%
Russell CF% without McDavid: 47.55%


That's just weird. Although, Russell without McDavid probably means he's playing against some weak competition, while McDavid is always drawing the best from other teams with or without Russell.

Regardless. That number together is butt ugly, and I wouldn't worry at all seeing Russell go. Dude still is a player that ensures you are consistently spending more time in your own end than the offensive zone because of his lack of puck moving ability. If he wasn't so good at shot blocking, he would be an AHLer already. The shot blocking kind of makes up for him being a detriment at almost everything else to do with playing hockey.


I do also think his tendency to give up the blueline easily and not to manage gaps particularly well causes issues defensively too. I don't think we have another defenceman more likely to get walked by a talented forward - usually with Russell doing snow angels on the ice.

I would love to see Russell land with a divisional rival - that first McDavid season, Russell got exposed with the Flames against 97's speed again and again...It would be great to see that repeated.



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