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Thursday, October 19, 2017Edmonton 2 @ Chicago 1 (OT)Win
Friday, December 29, 2017Chicago 4 @ Edmonton 3 (OT)Loss
Sunday, January 7, 2018Edmonton 1 @ Chicago 4Loss
Home Record: 0-0-1       Road Record: 1-1-0       Overall Record: 1-1-1
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Home / Road Goals Against: 4/5 Total: 9

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Saturday, February 11, 2017Chicago 5 @ Edmonton 1Loss
Saturday, February 18, 2017Edmonton 3 @ Chicago 1Win
Home Record: 1-1-0       Road Record: 1-0-0       Overall Record: 2-1-0
Home / Road Goals For: 6/3 Total: 9
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700403 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700404 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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Predicting a 10-1 drubbing tonight... not in our favour. Prove me wrong? #OilersBetter


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700441 is a reply to message #700404 ]
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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:29

Predicting a 10-1 drubbing tonight... not in our favour. Prove me wrong? #OilersBetter


I predict they win tonight! Chicago is going to be too cocky, and the Oilers are coming off some nasty losses, they'll be ready for blood tonight!

Tryin' to be positive.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700513 is a reply to message #700441 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700406 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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73% percent of Oilfans picked the Oilers to lose. The summer of hope has been lost.


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700412 is a reply to message #700406 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 07:43

73% percent of Oilfans picked the Oilers to lose.


So pretty much a guarantee the Oilers will win then?



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700411 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700415 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700419 is a reply to message #700415 ]
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Yeah, yeah, still 74 games to go but...

MUST WIN.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700424 is a reply to message #700415 ]
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Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700425 is a reply to message #700424 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:34

Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.


Anton Forsberg. 24 years old. 11 games NHL experience. Career .883 sav%. Would be really nice to win a goalie battle again.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700427 is a reply to message #700425 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:39

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:34

Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.


Anton Forsberg. 24 years old. 11 games NHL experience. Career .883 sav%. Would be really nice to win a goalie battle again.

That's got shut out written all over it.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700428 is a reply to message #700427 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 13:00

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:39

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:34

Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.


Anton Forsberg. 24 years old. 11 games NHL experience. Career .883 sav%. Would be really nice to win a goalie battle again.

That's got shut out written all over it.


Feel good story of a young goalie as the Oilers continue their slide.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700434 is a reply to message #700427 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 13:00

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:39

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:34

Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.


Anton Forsberg. 24 years old. 11 games NHL experience. Career .883 sav%. Would be really nice to win a goalie battle again.

That's got shut out written all over it.


I've heard the Anton Forsberg is projected to be the next Garrett Sparks.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700440 is a reply to message #700434 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 13:44

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 13:00

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:39

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 12:34

Steve wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 10:44

Is Chicago really that good? I don't think so. I see this as a very winnable game.

Stauffer says Chicago is starting their back up tonight.


Anton Forsberg. 24 years old. 11 games NHL experience. Career .883 sav%. Would be really nice to win a goalie battle again.

That's got shut out written all over it.


I've heard the Anton Forsberg is projected to be the next Garrett Sparks.

Ah memories. I haven't thought of that name in years. I think. When was that debacle? 2015. Good times.

https://www.nhl.com/news/garret-sparks-earns-shutout-in-nhl- debut-maple-leafs-blank-oilers-3-0/c-790229



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700442 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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I wish I trusted analytics a bit more :

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/three-early-season-nhl-tr ends-unlikely-continue/

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Oilers fans are understandably frustrated right now, with Edmonton struggling to score and win, and now Leon Draisaitl’s status is concerning, with vision problems and concussion symptoms. However, it looks like Draisaitl won’t be out for too long, and the Oilers’ play without him has been incredibly strong.

Yes, the goals haven’t been in their favour, everything seems to be going wrong at once, but the Oilers are first in the NHL in Corsica’s expected goals model and Sportlogiq’s scoring chance data likes them just as much.

Compared to recent years, the Oilers have done an incredible job defensively, allowing the fewest high-danger chances against in the league so far. The goaltending has been porous so that probably sounds like a lie, but the Oilers have improved big time.

This is a team that has been stung badly by poor luck, but every indication we have says they’re bound to be not just good, but excellent. This is without a top defenceman in Andrej Sekera, and with Draisaitl missing a couple games as well. There’s too much good stuff going on in Edmonton to get bogged down in their record after just five games.


I'll still file this into my "Fake News" pile.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700443 is a reply to message #700442 ]
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So sick of people using luck as an excuse. Good teams make their own luck by pushing the play and keeping the puck in the other end where luck can't hurt you. This is a team with no wingers , less defense and the Goalies can't out play the suck. I said in August this team wouldn't make the playoffs and I see little to encourage that I'm wrong.


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700462 is a reply to message #700442 ]
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 19 October 2017 14:07



I'll still file this into my "Fake News" pile.



The problem that I have with the analytics guys that are talking about the Oilers shooting and save percentages inevitably improving (and they will), is that they use things like xGF% and high danger chances as indications that the Oilers will turn it around.

But they don't give any context on those numbers. I don't have access to Sportlogiq's data and can't get Corsica to load on my laptop. But if we use naturalstattrick.com and look at CF% and HDSC% the Oilers are currently first in both categories. The problem is their numbers are not sustainable at those levels.

EDM 17/18 CF% = 59.92%
LA was first in CF% in 16/17% at 54.92% (Oilers were 49.99%)

EDM 17/18 HDSC% = 62.64%
Min led the league in 16/17 with 56.17% (Oilers were 50.43%).

The Oilers numbers this year are basically small sample artifacts. So their shooting and save percentages will get better, but they're also going to have their scoring chance numbers come down as well that will mitigate that at least somewhat.




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17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Chicago (Game #6) [message #700444 is a reply to message #700400 ]
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The game will be on WGN tonight as well, for anybody who would like a change of broadcasters.


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The Oilers even when they were crap usually played the Hawks tough and won their fair share of games. They need Talbot to be Talbot so hopefully he's figured out what is wrong and fixed it. Tonight would be a good night for the captain to puck up his game.


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