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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674352 is a reply to message #674350 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 12:32

vsove
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Magnum wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:08

Mike wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:07

vsove wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 15:03

Who's the last big power forward we had?

Bill Guerin in 2000-2001?

Penner.

Good ol' Pancakes. I liked Penner a lot, honestly. Funny guy.

I don't know if he played his size as well as I've seen Lucic do, though. Here's hoping we've got the player we've needed.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674349 is a reply to message #674347 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 12:08

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Dustin Penner had a nice run in 2009 when he looked like an all world power forward. Then when he didn't make the Olympic roster he went back to his old ways. Pretty sure we all liked Penner for that half season though.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674351 is a reply to message #674347 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 12:27

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vsove wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:03

halfafrog wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:01

With 3% inflation per year, the cap will be around 90 million in 7 years. This is a power forward we needed to compliment fast and skilled. I have zero problem with this. We were far too predictable with small skilled forwards. He will be great riding shot gun with McDavid or whomever. Can you imagine a line with McDavid, Lucic and Kassian every once in awhile? McDavid would have a lot of room. Though I don't see that combination happening too often. If we can land Demers somehow. I will be happy. We will have improved the team, its chemistry, its ability to play different styles of hockey and the back end tremendously. I know a lot of people didn't like the Hall trade but this team wasn't working and needed a change in its ability to play all styles of hockey.

I would love to see an offer sheet to Barrie more than a Demers signing, but Demers is also a good choice.

I think Lucic is the exact kind of player we haven't had since.. sheesh, when?

Who's the last big power forward we had?

JF Jacques? Haha. Also this from CP...

Quote:

Just spoke with Lucic himself 5 minutes ago. He and his girl just caught a plane here in Van, with my employer, and he had some interesting things to say.

-Shook his hand and told him I am a Flames fan, he laughed about it and was good about it. I congradulated him on the deal and said I look forward to a more entertaining battle of Alberta.
-I asked why the Oil, he says the new arena is world class, super impressed, couldn't believe it when he was given the tour.
-Says Flames had interest leading up to draft, contacted him/agent, but when Tkachuk fell to them, then interest seemingly dried up (Thanks Tre, dodged a 42 million dollar bullet IMO)
-I asked if he knew if Hall was getting traded. He said he had an idea he was. Had some hearsay "rumors" about his presence in the locker room and such, of which I won't be repeating. No source to confirm about another player.
-I asked about Van and he said "the Family" gets too involved, along with the cutthroat media, etc, it just wasn't a good fit. Loves the city though.
-I ended with "McDavid huh, pretty excited?" Big smile and said for sure, he's a wicked good player.

This year should be interesting. Nice enough guy nonetheless

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=155441&pag e=8

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674356 is a reply to message #674351 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 13:20

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Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:27

vsove wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:03

halfafrog wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 12:01

JF Jacques? Haha. Also this from CP...

Quote:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=155441&pag e=8

Wow, the CP guys still go all out with their oil bashing after all these years. Look at the passion.

The stuff about Hall's personality has just been never ending. I guess the only real proof we will ever have of him having questional leadership qualities is how he was never given the C as an Oiler after a number of opportunities to give it to him.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674524 is a reply to message #674356 ]	Sun, 03 July 2016 04:00

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Puzzling but definitely not surprising that 3 of the top 5 threads on CP right now are hate/making fun of the Oilers. No doubt we've not given the rest of league much to be impressed with the last decade, but there's an obsessiveness that's a bit sad from our southern neighbours. 17 pages on the Lucic contract? Seems excessive.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674589 is a reply to message #674524 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 10:50

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Javer wrote on Sun, 03 July 2016 04:00

What's so surprising about this? They actually have a thread dedicated to making fun of the Oilers specifically in their main forum. Cowtown fans seem to have a massive inferiority complex that is almost pathetic.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674370 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 14:17

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Just a little perspective.

Last season:

Lucic: 2.04 Points/60 5v5 playing boring LA grinder hockey. 2nd on LA just behind Kopitar
Hall: 2.31 Points/60 5v5 playing freewheeling Oilers hockey. 2nd on the Oilers behind McDavid

That's not worlds apart, and even though Lucic has a reputation of being big, he's not slow. He will be able to contribute on a line with McDavid, likely much more effectively than Maroon did, and Maroon was able to do very well.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674373 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 14:36

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If there is a negative, that contract is buyout and trade proof, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674374 is a reply to message #674373 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 14:46

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Things that impact and shape a man:

http://statsstylescore.com/nhl-blog-milan-lucic-speaks-on-hi s-fathers-death/

http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/boston-bruins-los-angeles -kings-milan-lucic-father-s-suicide-111715

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/milan-lucic-chu rch-vandalized-canucks-taunts-according-girlfriend-075311325 .html

I would hate for Oiler fans to ever behave so poorly

So this is what hope feels like?

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674379 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 15:04

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I wonder what number he'll wear? Also anyone have an idea if this contract is front loaded at all? That would be wise.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674390 is a reply to message #674379 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 16:45

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Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 15:04

I wonder what number he'll wear? Also anyone have an idea if this contract is front loaded at all? That would be wise.

Never mind, looks like he'll be wearing #27 and $23 of $42 mil is in the form of bonuses.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674406 is a reply to message #674390 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 21:18

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Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 16:45

Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 15:04

I wonder what number he'll wear? Also anyone have an idea if this contract is front loaded at all? That would be wise.

Never mind, looks like he'll be wearing #27 and $23 of $42 mil is in the form of bonuses.

27 should be an excellent # for Lucic. I was hoping for 27 or 24. Not a fan of the term, but hope Lucic delivers the goods especially in BOA.

With both Pouliot and Yak seemingly destined out, and the sh__y Hall trade the concern has to be depth at LW.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674409 is a reply to message #674406 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 21:52

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K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 20:18

Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 16:45

Gator21 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 15:04

I wonder what number he'll wear? Also anyone have an idea if this contract is front loaded at all? That would be wise.

Never mind, looks like he'll be wearing #27 and $23 of $42 mil is in the form of bonuses.

Yak isn't going anywhere unless a top six RW magically manifests and his trade value goes up. But if his value goes up because of his play, then why trade him as he's still cheap at 2.5 mil and an RFA.

I'm not banking on Puljujärvi for top six RW. He might even spend time in the AHL.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674383 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 15:53

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I guess Chia just implied LA offered him 8 years, and other teams offered Lucic more money, but he picked the Oilers still. Good stuff.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674384 is a reply to message #674383 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 16:01

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Watching the press conference, it is cool that big names that can play anywhere want to take our absurd amounts of money now.

He spoke well and is obviously excited. He wants the whole team to have a change of attitude, and if Chiarelli accomplished anything, it was that.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674385 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 16:23

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Always liked Lucic, ever since I watched him with the Giants, and especially when he won the Memorial Cup here (The Shift), and the Junior Super Series vs. Russia. Great character. He spoke well at the media conference, he'll help the Oilers, and I think he'll have longevity.

Chiarelli said Hall's departure was "unrelated" to signing Lucic, so it is still a one-for-one deal that must be weighed on its own merits. Balance currently tilted.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674400 is a reply to message #674385 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 19:25

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 01 July 2016 16:23

Always liked Lucic, ever since I watched him with the Giants, and especially when he won the Memorial Cup here (The Shift), and the Junior Super Series vs. Russia. Great character. He spoke well at the media conference, he'll help the Oilers, and I think he'll have longevity.

Chiarelli said Hall's departure was "unrelated" to signing Lucic, so it is still a one-for-one deal that must be weighed on its own merits. Balance currently tilted.

And you really believe that's not just media posturing? Highly unlikely there's a scenario which includes improving the defence meaningfully and having both Hall and Lucic on the team. Something had to give there and I take Lucic over Hall with our team situation.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674399 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 19:21

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Stoked they got him. Lucic can play and his skating issue's are overblown. Should be a 25-25 player with McJesus (conservatively) and be his own personal version of Semenko. This was the biggest, best FA available and Chia landed him, for a price to a be sure, but they got him. Very happy.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674411 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 01 July 2016 22:11

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VisuallyBetter @Isuckatpicking 2h2 hours ago
Welcome to the Oilers @MilanLucicCFC17 Take care of our little man @cmcdavid97 @BarDown @EdmontonOilers

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674570 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 01:14

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I'm a Lucic fan. Awesome signing. I know that Milan has close friends with a lot of people in Edmonton's tight-knit Serbian community. Besides the huge money, I truly believe this was a key reason that he ended up choosing the Oilers. McDavid was just the cherry on top.

Any word on when the #27 Lucic jersey will be available? (or is it already?)

P.S.

MJ, my username is no longer relevant. Would it be possible to change my user to 'Looch'? (let the man-crush grow!)

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674572 is a reply to message #674570 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 07:09

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People need to get over the whole "Lucic doesn't replace Hall thing". They are right, Lucic can't replace Hall. Hall will always outscore Lucic because Hall is a better offesnive player but they are 2 COMPLETELY different players. While Hall will score more points than Lucic, Lucic will bring more other things that Hall can't. If Lucic can score over 20 goals, be physical, tough, intimidating, open up space for McDavid and go to the net, he will live up to his deal. Just having Lucic alone will improve the Oilers PP because they now have 2 net front presences for BOTH units in Maroon in Lucic. Nobody on the Oilers went to the freaking net to do the basics of hockey - screen the goalie, tip pucks, gather up rebounds.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674587 is a reply to message #674572 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 10:47

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 04 July 2016 07:09

Lucic may not be a huge producer on the powerplay. Just seven goals in the last four seasons for him. He had 8 PP points the last two years, 12 the year before that. He managed 14 in 2010-11, but that is a long way back.

It will be important to try to remember that Lucic wasn't traded for Hall. He's not going to live up to that. He won't score as much, and I think people may eventually realize that all those great gritty intangibles will never be worth the 20-30 points more that Hall will get you.

I think people should prepare to see a different Patrick Maroon this year as well. He rode an incredible hot streak during his 16 games with the Oilers, scoring 14 points. That was an unsustainable pace even if he'd kept playing with McDavid, but the Oilers are going to be desperate to try to prove to fans that they've made the right changes, and to do that, they'll need Milan Lucic scoring points. That means that Maroon is most likely playing with either Draisaitl or Nugent-Hopkins, and he's going to be less effective there.

As far as powerplay goes, Maroon had 5 PPG last year between the Oilers and the Ducks, but he'd only ever scored 2 before last season. Maybe the Ducks didn't use him there much, but he doesn't have a huge track record there. It's far from a guarantee that he'll stay anywhere close to the pace he set in his short stint here at the end of last year (which would be on pace for 20 PP points).

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674590 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 10:53

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Interesting twitter exchange on the weekend. Georges Laraque suggested that Lucic will represent his old number better than Dustin Penner did. He hashtagged Semenko on the post. Several people told him he was out of line and tweeted it at Penner. Penner basically brushed it off. Laraque then spent some time saying that it was all a joke and referred only to the fact that it was the Oilers fighter number.

Georges is no stranger to saying stupid things and then trying to defend them, so nothing to see there really, but it opens up an interesting question. Will Lucic be better than Penner?

He should be able to outperform most of his seasons, but I'm willing to bet that he doesn't match Penner's 32 goals from 2009-10. Probably doesn't beat his 63 points that season either.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674591 is a reply to message #674590 ]	Mon, 04 July 2016 10:54

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Adam wrote on Mon, 04 July 2016 10:53

I feel like this is a burger bet in the making.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674730 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Tue, 05 July 2016 12:29

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Good writeup of the Lucic press conference: http://oilersnation.com/2016/7/5/lucic-ready-to-lead

After reading that, I almost feel optimistic. Almost.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674732 is a reply to message #674730 ]	Tue, 05 July 2016 12:45

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yeah good read, do you think that they will put the C on McDavid this year? We all know it is coming but really would it be wise to give it to a second year player, albeit McDavid. Do the Oilers go with all A's again probably Lucic taking Halls A. I just hope to the hockey gods that they don't give the C to Lucic, it isn't right giving to a player who hasn't played a game for us yet.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674782 is a reply to message #674732 ]	Tue, 05 July 2016 21:02

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sloiler wrote on Tue, 05 July 2016 11:45

C - McDavid
A - Hendricks, Lucic, Nuge, Sekera rotation

We're still pretty thin when it comes to veteran leadership. : /

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674872 is a reply to message #674782 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 07:46

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The more I read about Lucic signing with the Oilers, the more excited I get about him. Yes the contract is a couple of years longer than I would like but if you look at the market, when Ladd and Okposo get those contracts, that's what the market was so to get him, they had to do it. The contract is identical to Okposo's and Ladd makes 500k less but the same length and he's 2 years older. So I'd rather have Lucic over both of those guys.

In years past, no player of Lucic's caliber would have signed in Edmonton, he picked Edmonton. When the usual second tier free agents would sign in Edmonton and they would do their presser. They would talk about helping to improve the team, winning, how great the fans were, blah, blah blah but while they said all that, their face was emotionless. They looked like they saw their dog get put down right before the presser. So you just knew in the back of their mind, Edmonton was not #1 or probably #2 or #3 on their list but the Oilers offered more term and money than anyone else. So they held their nose and signed the deal.

In Lucic, every interview I have watched, he was smiling. Actually smiling. You could see the excitement on his face and hear it in his voice. He would briefly talk about the contract and the security because of course that plays a role for any player but you can tell that wasn't the only reason because he could have gotten that in other places. You could tell that Edmonton was his #1 choice and he was pumped. I say this because he was HONEST for a change. He didn't go into media training 101 where you rattle off standard line after standard line. He came out and said, "I came because I want to play with McDavid". He went on to describe what McDavid is, how great he is and how he wants to be apart of that because he thinks the Oilers are going to win soon. Then he went on to describe what this team severely lacked based on his observations as an opposing player. He didn't sugar coat it, didn't dance around the question, didn't go into media training 101 where he pretends the team is better than they are, he laid it out honestly. The Oilers were soft, didn't intimidate anyone, were easy to play against, lacked attitude and swagger. I have to think that every fan that listened to those comments were all nodding their heads because the Oilers have been like that for almost a decade. The he said what HE was going to do to fix that.

So I am PUMPED. Does Lucic replace Hall? He helps but he doesn't replace Hall because they are 2 different players. But what Lucic brings is what the Oilers have been lacking for SOOOOOO many years and that all the other players before him including Hall couldn't. Plus to me he says to the rest of the league that the Oilers are coming. For SOOOOO many years the Oilers were the last place you wanted to go as a free agent. Lucic could have signed anywhere but he picked Edmonton as his #1 and to me, that is massive and helps take a little of the sting off that extra year or 2.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674875 is a reply to message #674872 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 09:34

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Good post. I agree 100% with everything. Moreso today than a week ago. As for the length - honestly I don't GAF about years 5-7 right now. We need to win these next few years, and Lucic will easily be worth every penny in that time frame.

With Maroon, Kassian, Nurse, and now Lucic, there won't be any more of this checking your skate laces crap during scrums that just drove me up the wall.

I'm not a "Rock em Sock em" fan of the game, but we have been the league's biggest doormat for years. And I think next year that changes (started to change last year), and I can't wait.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674971 is a reply to message #674875 ]	Tue, 12 July 2016 15:10

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Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 08:34

I agree, but it can't be just one guy, never works, need a gang mentality, having additional guys like Maroon, Nurse, Hendricks, possibly Gryba if he comes back, will help. The whole team doesn't have to be the nasty type, but you need a minimum requirement to provide the weight that gets a team past the tipping point and into swagger mode. IMO, RNH, Hall, Ebs, would have all been much better at this point of their careers if that environment had been properly provided by management, those guys were hammered since day one. One of many Oiler management failures.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674972 is a reply to message #674971 ]	Tue, 12 July 2016 20:30

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 12 July 2016 15:10

IMO, RNH, Hall, Ebs, would have all been much better at this point of their careers if that environment had been properly provided by management, those guys were hammered since day one. One of many Oiler management failures.

Good thing that Chia is trying to fix that now then even if he traded Hall as part of the plan, right? icon_wink

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674882 is a reply to message #674872 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 10:39

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 07:46

Ya, I never really understood why the Lucic deal was picked apart so much compared to other deals that seem immune from criticism that were actually the same or worse.

Lucic will be 34 for the last year of his deal.
Okposo will also be 34, with $6mil AAV
Eriksson will be 36, with $6mil AAV
Backes willl be 36, also with $6mil AAV
Ladd will be 37, with $5.5mil AAV
Frans Nielsen will be 37, $5.25mil AAV
Brouwer will be 34, $4.5mil AAV

With the exception of Eriksson and Nielsen all play a rather physical game but I haven't heard the same concern over the other guys breaking down late into their contracts. Out of all those contracts I would take Lucic above anyone else. I could see the concern being greater if he had a long history of injuries but the guy is an ox, he's missed what...4 games in the last 6 years due to injury?

Also the people complaining about the Lucic signing are likely the same people who complain all winter about it being too cold and as soon as summer comes they complain how hot it is out.

For years people complained about how soft our team is and the lack of functional toughness, people complained about mgmt not doing enough to improve this team NOW, people complained about top FA's not wanting to sign here. We literally sign the PERFECT player to address those needs and what do people do? Complain about the last couple years MAYBE being troublesome like the damn sky is falling.

doh

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674876 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 09:54

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For anyone looking to get more hyped up about the Lucic acquisition:

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

"In Brad we trust"
- All Oilers fans, Present Day

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674878 is a reply to message #674876 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 10:10

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I'm so looking forward to the first time he blows up a Canuck and a Flame.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674879 is a reply to message #674878 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 10:23

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Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:10

I'm so looking forward to the first time he blows up a Canuck and a Flame.

It wouldn't break my heart to see Burrows or Virtanen get run over.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674880 is a reply to message #674879 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 10:25

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Adam wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 13:23

Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:10

I'm so looking forward to the first time he blows up a Canuck and a Flame.

It wouldn't break my heart to see Burrows or Virtanen get run over.

Burrows would be at the very top of the list to be sure.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674888 is a reply to message #674880 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 11:44

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It's funny. There are a lot of people especially over the past couple of months when all the trade speculation about one of Eberle, Hall or Nuge being traded and when Eberle's name came up, it was immediately followed by "if you trade Eberle, good luck in replacing his offense at his price point." I'm not disagreeing with that sentiment. Eberle over his career has been a consistent 25+ goal, 60+ point guy. So at 6 mill, that's probably about right I guess. Playing with McDavid, he will easily get that and maybe finally get back to his career high. But other than offense, Eberle gives you nothing else.

In Lucic, I think he's easily a 20-25 goal, 50+ point guy for the majority of that contract. But he also brings experience, leadership, size, toughness, physical play, attitude and makes them a tougher team to play against on top of his pretty good offensive abilities. Having him ride shot gun for McDavid, opening up space for McDavid and allowing McDavid to hopefully not worry as much about someone taking a cheap shot at him has value. So maybe if the points start tailing off a little bit towards the end of the deal, Lucic is still going to bring you value to your team. If Lucic was Backes age (32) then I would be more concerned because Backes probably retires at the end of his deal. but Lucic just turned 28 so he probably signs another short deal after this contract is up.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674890 is a reply to message #674880 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 11:57

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Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:25

Adam wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 13:23

Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:10

I'm so looking forward to the first time he blows up a Canuck and a Flame.

It wouldn't break my heart to see Burrows or Virtanen get run over.

Burrows would be at the very top of the list to be sure.

Gaudreau is up there for me.

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674892 is a reply to message #674890 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 12:05

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TeemaJeema wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 11:57

Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:25

Adam wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 13:23

Mike wrote on Fri, 08 July 2016 10:10

I'm so looking forward to the first time he blows up a Canuck and a Flame.

It wouldn't break my heart to see Burrows or Virtanen get run over.

Burrows would be at the very top of the list to be sure.

Gaudreau is up there for me.

Edler for me. Would just to see him turn Edler into a crumpled up mess on the ice. That sneaky bastid has been elbowing our players in the head for years. Virtanen too for sure. Burrows is just hanging on by a thread, I just enjoy seeing him struggle to keep up with anything now. I suppose seeing him get destroyed to put the bookend on his career would be fun though :)

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674910 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Fri, 08 July 2016 18:34

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from hf:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmfAmgRVMAAlGw-.jpg

the shirt Lucic is wearing isn't photoshopped, lol. https://twitter.com/islandgirl6103/status/749253687164309505

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Re: Lucic Signs with Oilers [message #674957 is a reply to message #674276 ]	Mon, 11 July 2016 16:29

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hehe, look who takes the first shot in the chin from Lucic after he runs Miller over.

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