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Anyone in BC have a working stream? Both Oilers and Flames sites say not available in my region.


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any alternate feeds? not working.



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Oilersfanforever wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 19:32

any alternate feeds? not working.



Tried the usual suspects from the sticky in the OT?

Edit: Looks like there is indeed a link posted there :)

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my bad, i feel like a newb. having hockey withdrawls. thanks.


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Yeah, found one.... Choppy, but better than nothing I guess.


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Pretty sloppy game so far. Neither goal against are ones the goalies will be particularly happy about, but both were flat-out giveaways by a defenceman in the neutral zone. First culprit was Fayne and I think second was Sekera so maybe not everyone has knocked the rust off just yet.

Sekera does look like a bit of an adventure out there. He's made me nervous a couple of times as he tries to spin away from guys at the top of the attacking zone. If he gets peeled that's a breakaway going the other direction.

Other that that, I'm finding it just looks like there's not a lot of things clicking out there.



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Bit of a weird zone entry scheme for the Oilers too so far, especially on PP. coming through the middle again and again without a great deal of success, in part because everyone is standing flat footed on the blue line.


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Also, the Oilers suck at streaming. Has there been a game yet that hasn't had serious issues? Flames at Oilers feed is stalled with just under 10 minutes to go.

The Calgary feed looks nicer, actually shows the score and isn't stalled.



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And just like that, tie game! Great forechecking from Yakupov, then McDavid feeds Draisaitl!


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nullterm wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:20

#HelloNurse

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He took some bombs and came back hard.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:18

And just like that, tie game! Great forechecking from Yakupov, then McDavid feeds Draisaitl!


And then the feed goes again and the two goals the Oilers score to take it 4-2 aren't watchable. Also, no stats currently available for the game in Edmonton on either NHL.com or the Oilers website. Maybe technology is another area now under Kevin Lowe's oversight?

But we won both games - 7-3 thrashing of the Flames if you look at it in aggregate!

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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:32

Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:18

And just like that, tie game! Great forechecking from Yakupov, then McDavid feeds Draisaitl!


And then the feed goes again and the two goals the Oilers score to take it 4-2 aren't watchable. Also, no stats currently available for the game in Edmonton on either NHL.com or the Oilers website. Maybe technology is another area now under Kevin Lowe's oversight?

But we won both games - 7-3 thrashing of the Flames if you look at it in aggregate!


Guess Hall took a bit of a cheap hit late and went to the dressing room. Not a great replay, but looks like he might have hit his head (with helmet on) on the ice or something.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:54

Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:32

Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:18

And just like that, tie game! Great forechecking from Yakupov, then McDavid feeds Draisaitl!


And then the feed goes again and the two goals the Oilers score to take it 4-2 aren't watchable. Also, no stats currently available for the game in Edmonton on either NHL.com or the Oilers website. Maybe technology is another area now under Kevin Lowe's oversight?

But we won both games - 7-3 thrashing of the Flames if you look at it in aggregate!


Guess Hall took a bit of a cheap hit late and went to the dressing room. Not a great replay, but looks like he might have hit his head (with helmet on) on the ice or something.


Saw one pundit on twitter speculating chipped teeth?



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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 20:58

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:54

Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:32

Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:18

And just like that, tie game! Great forechecking from Yakupov, then McDavid feeds Draisaitl!


And then the feed goes again and the two goals the Oilers score to take it 4-2 aren't watchable. Also, no stats currently available for the game in Edmonton on either NHL.com or the Oilers website. Maybe technology is another area now under Kevin Lowe's oversight?

But we won both games - 7-3 thrashing of the Flames if you look at it in aggregate!


Guess Hall took a bit of a cheap hit late and went to the dressing room. Not a great replay, but looks like he might have hit his head (with helmet on) on the ice or something.


Saw one pundit on twitter speculating chipped teeth?


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"Taylor Hall had a cut on his nose and @hallsy04 will be further evaluated." Update from Todd McLellan who said it was NOT serious.
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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 21:02

Bit of a weird zone entry scheme for the Oilers too so far, especially on PP. coming through the middle again and again without a great deal of success, in part because everyone is standing flat footed on the blue line.


Not a big deal if you can get a corsi or 2 as soon as you enter the zone. A Corsi as soon as you cross the blueline is just as valuable as one you get after a cross ice pass shooting at a wide open net.

I feel like the horse has been beaten so much it's turning into dust, but I just can't stop until the season starts and we have finally put the Eakins days behind us :) deadhorse



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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 16:34

benv wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 15:59

Listening to the radio this morning and this afternoon, and I've heard two different talking heads say that Nikitin looks just awful so far in all the drills--slow and getting schooled by the forwards. I will be really curious to see him in a game tonight.

If he continues to under-perform compared to Nurse and/or Reinhart, I'll be really curious to see if the brass has the guts to cut him.


I find it so hard to judge these things based on what the media says. First off, it's drills. It doesn't actually mean a lot. And secondly, we've seen in Edmonton over the years that the media is horrible for picking out a player and making criticisms of him whether fair or not. How many times did we hear about Hemsky being one of the first off the ice after practice, as if that made one lick of difference?

Given his performance last year, it would not be shocking at all if Nikitin isn't one of the six best defenders on the Oilers, but I really hesitate to take it as gospel when the media beat up on a guy that they already didn't really like.


I heard Rishaug talking today about the Klefbom signing. He was talking about how he thinks its a fairly low risk signing because Klefbom has all the checks in the box that NHL managers look for. In other words all the important components of being an NHL player he has covered.

To paraphrase - Kelfbom is a) really physically fit b) team-mates love him and c) He is good with the media.

I also have heard countless newspaper guys lauding Mclellann as an amazing coach and saviour based on the first 5 minutes of practice (Surely not letting those personal feelings for Eakins get in the way of their "professionalism"...).

This is the kind of god awfulness we get from sports media in Edmonton.

Now Im not saying Nikitin is good or isn't....basically just agreeing with Adam that just because these MSM fools say something doesn't make it so.



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Klefbom looks silky smooth out there. Its not a stretch to say he can be the number one guy for Edmonton one day. Hes big strong and incredibly mobile and makes great decisions out there, if he can find a way to chip in offensively consistently this contract will be applauded for years to come. Chiarelli has seen his share of defenseman come and go with guys like Chara, Boychuk, Hamilton so he must see something really bright in Klefboms future.


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That Oilers feed.. man was it bad. The presentation looked like it was taken on an iPhone 4s. That said, I'm thankful they even stream it..

With about 12 minutes left of the game in Edmonton the stream the stream completely died and I gave up and missed the remaining goals.

Sloppy game overall, no wow moments.. but awful glad hockey is back.



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Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 08:35

That Oilers feed.. man was it bad. The presentation looked like it was taken on an iPhone 4s. That said, I'm thankful they even stream it..

With about 12 minutes left of the game in Edmonton the stream the stream completely died and I gave up and missed the remaining goals.

Sloppy game overall, no wow moments.. but awful glad hockey is back.


The sad thing is how much better the Flames feed was. It wasn't close. It wasn't jerky at any points, the picture was much clearer, it didn't stop, it didn't miss goals. I flipped over to watch that game when the Edmonton game went down and couldn't believe how much difference there was.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 08:49

Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 08:35

That Oilers feed.. man was it bad. The presentation looked like it was taken on an iPhone 4s. That said, I'm thankful they even stream it..

With about 12 minutes left of the game in Edmonton the stream the stream completely died and I gave up and missed the remaining goals.

Sloppy game overall, no wow moments.. but awful glad hockey is back.


The sad thing is how much better the Flames feed was. It wasn't close. It wasn't jerky at any points, the picture was much clearer, it didn't stop, it didn't miss goals. I flipped over to watch that game when the Edmonton game went down and couldn't believe how much difference there was.


I read about that during the stream but when I flicked over to the Flames stream it quit at the same point as the Oilers one.



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Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 08:35

That Oilers feed.. man was it bad. The presentation looked like it was taken on an iPhone 4s. That said, I'm thankful they even stream it..

With about 12 minutes left of the game in Edmonton the stream the stream completely died and I gave up and missed the remaining goals.

Sloppy game overall, no wow moments.. but awful glad hockey is back.


Yet another thing that likely falls under Kevin Lowe's "Business side" umbrella. So, we have the online feeds, the toddler/newborn clothing quality control. Any other obvious ones?



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I gotta resize that one and make it my avatar. That is an awesome pick... Wave Towel


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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 10:48

I gotta resize that one and make it my avatar. That is an awesome pick... Wave Towel


He had the best look on his face through that fight. Looked like a crazy person. Although, probably best to keep his mouth piece in and mouth closed in case he gets an uppercut :)



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 10:56

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 10:48

I gotta resize that one and make it my avatar. That is an awesome pick... Wave Towel


He had the best look on his face through that fight. Looked like a crazy person. Although, probably best to keep his mouth piece in and mouth closed in case he gets an uppercut :)

Yeah I think there is a bit of crazy running through those veins, he looked like he was enjoying that way too much. He is going to be a beast! Its also awesome that the guy who kept his lid and visor on ended up with the bloody nose, although I was concerned about Nurse's hand.



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Still on the outside looking in...

Gene Principe ‏@GenePrincipe 2m2 minutes ago
Just saw @drtwofive walk into the 'Group B' dressing room not main room so looks like he's part of the 'non' NHL group..for now. Stay tuned.

Jack Michaels ‏@EdmontonJack 20m20 minutes ago
No sign of Purcell or Nurse. 5th line of Gazdic-Miller-Pitlick. Klefbom-Schultz, Sekera-Fayne, Ference-Gryba, Reinhart-Nikitin.


Seriously, just send Nikitin to Siberia. The only positive that can come of him is Howson/MacT stand up for him and Chia has to send all three packing.

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nullterm wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 11:25

Still on the outside looking in...

Gene Principe @GenePrincipe 2m2 minutes ago
Just saw @drtwofive walk into the 'Group B' dressing room not main room so looks like he's part of the 'non' NHL group..for now. Stay tuned.



Think he's a kid that will stay hungry and keep getting hungrier the longer it takes him to crack the NHL lineup. AHL time will be great for him.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 10:29

nullterm wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 11:25

Still on the outside looking in...

Gene Principe @GenePrincipe 2m2 minutes ago
Just saw @drtwofive walk into the 'Group B' dressing room not main room so looks like he's part of the 'non' NHL group..for now. Stay tuned.



Think he's a kid that will stay hungry and keep getting hungrier the longer it takes him to crack the NHL lineup. AHL time will be great for him.


Yeah, he'll be better off with 1st line minutes + PP + PK in the AHL.

At the same time, to have Nikitin bumbling around the ice while Nurse is doing everything right and throwing everything he's got.... ugh.



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Everything I've seen and heard points to Nikitin sticking this year. I'm not sure he'll be a regular in the lineup of the 7th pressbox guy, but I don't think he's being sent to the AHL, and he sure isn't a moveable asset.

Honestly, I'd rather see Brendan Davidson here as the "extra" guy, and Reinhart and Nurse with major AHL minutes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

Odd that Purcell isn't anywhere to be seen. Did he get banged up last night?



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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 12:09

Everything I've seen and heard points to Nikitin sticking this year. I'm not sure he'll be a regular in the lineup of the 7th pressbox guy, but I don't think he's being sent to the AHL, and he sure isn't a moveable asset.

Honestly, I'd rather see Brendan Davidson here as the "extra" guy, and Reinhart and Nurse with major AHL minutes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

Odd that Purcell isn't anywhere to be seen. Did he get banged up last night?


I did think last night that Nikitin looked better than some of the other Oilers defenders, even though I know some media are beating him up again today. He wasn't outstanding, but he didn't look like he was on the wrong side of the puck very often and made some decent plays in the defensive zone.

Fayne and Sekera, the top duo, both gifted up the puck on the Flames' two goals and I thought they looked to struggle more than Nikitin to be honest.

Honestly, I think Nikita Nikitin is an NHL defenceman, but he's a 6-7 guy getting paid like a 2-3 guy.




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Adam wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 14:25

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 12:09

Everything I've seen and heard points to Nikitin sticking this year. I'm not sure he'll be a regular in the lineup of the 7th pressbox guy, but I don't think he's being sent to the AHL, and he sure isn't a moveable asset.

Honestly, I'd rather see Brendan Davidson here as the "extra" guy, and Reinhart and Nurse with major AHL minutes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

Odd that Purcell isn't anywhere to be seen. Did he get banged up last night?


I did think last night that Nikitin looked better than some of the other Oilers defenders, even though I know some media are beating him up again today. He wasn't outstanding, but he didn't look like he was on the wrong side of the puck very often and made some decent plays in the defensive zone.

Fayne and Sekera, the top duo, both gifted up the puck on the Flames' two goals and I thought they looked to struggle more than Nikitin to be honest.

Honestly, I think Nikita Nikitin is an NHL defenceman, but he's a 6-7 guy getting paid like a 2-3 guy.




I'm not convinced. I saw him on the feed last night and he took a big breath in the 2 second shot like he was out of breath. Therefore I think he is horribly out of shape and MacT can't be blamed for the contract he gave him.



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For whatever it's worth, which is probably nothing, Oilers had scouts at the Leafs / Senators game last night. Probably just scouts doing their job and keeping tabs on teams and players, but thought I'd throw that in here in case something develops from it.


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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 12:10

For whatever it's worth, which is probably nothing, Oilers had scouts at the Leafs / Senators game last night. Probably just scouts doing their job and keeping tabs on teams and players, but thought I'd throw that in here in case something develops from it.


Interesting when you add in:

Quote:

here was a lot of hype around the NHL debut of Connor McDavid last night for sure, but all the calls I am getting this morning are surrounding his wingers. Yes, Taylor Hall feels tailor made for the spot, but talking to sources I am not convinced that the Oilers are completely, 100% settled on this eventuality.

According to one source, "If the right winger can be found, a top 3 guy with experience, but still in his mid 20s, there is a move to be made. One of the other top picks (not named Hall) is available if such a player presents himself."

One team I heard connected with the Oilers is the Senators...The Sens have some good you talent on the Wing and a swap could prove intriguing...


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Impressions-of-Provoro v--Konecny-EDM-Up-to-Something-Big-Tues-Buzzcast/1/71118



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6zeppelin6 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 16:30

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 12:10

For whatever it's worth, which is probably nothing, Oilers had scouts at the Leafs / Senators game last night. Probably just scouts doing their job and keeping tabs on teams and players, but thought I'd throw that in here in case something develops from it.


Interesting when you add in:

Quote:

here was a lot of hype around the NHL debut of Connor McDavid last night for sure, but all the calls I am getting this morning are surrounding his wingers. Yes, Taylor Hall feels tailor made for the spot, but talking to sources I am not convinced that the Oilers are completely, 100% settled on this eventuality.

According to one source, "If the right winger can be found, a top 3 guy with experience, but still in his mid 20s, there is a move to be made. One of the other top picks (not named Hall) is available if such a player presents himself."

One team I heard connected with the Oilers is the Senators...The Sens have some good you talent on the Wing and a swap could prove intriguing...


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Impressions-of-Provoro v--Konecny-EDM-Up-to-Something-Big-Tues-Buzzcast/1/71118


A winger? Really? I don't know if I buy that. The team has no shortage of quality wingers and is talking about possibly turning Draisaitl in to one too. I'm sure that Chiarelli is always kicking tires on anything to improve the team, but I don't really see the team doing a winger for winger deal, and if they do, I'm a little worried they would be trading for skill for size which could very well end up as the next Briere-for-Gratton deal.

I'm pretty okay with seeing what this lineup can do before making any deals, unless you find a taker for Nikitin or Ference who doesn't ask a lot for taking on those burdens.



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 Re: Oilers' main training camp thread [message #656778 is a reply to message #656776 ]
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6zeppelin6 wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 16:30

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 12:10

For whatever it's worth, which is probably nothing, Oilers had scouts at the Leafs / Senators game last night. Probably just scouts doing their job and keeping tabs on teams and players, but thought I'd throw that in here in case something develops from it.


Interesting when you add in:

Quote:

here was a lot of hype around the NHL debut of Connor McDavid last night for sure, but all the calls I am getting this morning are surrounding his wingers. Yes, Taylor Hall feels tailor made for the spot, but talking to sources I am not convinced that the Oilers are completely, 100% settled on this eventuality.

According to one source, "If the right winger can be found, a top 3 guy with experience, but still in his mid 20s, there is a move to be made. One of the other top picks (not named Hall) is available if such a player presents himself."

One team I heard connected with the Oilers is the Senators...The Sens have some good you talent on the Wing and a swap could prove intriguing...


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Impressions-of-Provoro v--Konecny-EDM-Up-to-Something-Big-Tues-Buzzcast/1/71118


Hmm... well Bobby Ryan and Kyle Turris both fit that description. Maybe Mark Stone or Mika Zibanejad. I can't imagine the Oilers wanting to take on Ryan's contract though considering how many of their own guys they'll want to keep.

Given that little tidbid, you'd have to think it would be Yakupov or Draisaitl going back the other way.

I don't know. It's kind of fun to be back speculating, but I'm not really opposed to going into the season with the guys they have on forward. Purcell is definitely not my choice to be riding shotgun with McDavid and Hall long term, but if it means waiting for the right opportunity and not having to give up Yakupov or Draisaitl, I might be in favour of that more. I guess it always depends on the return, but I like the idea of a Draisaitl/Lander/Yakupov line.

Sidenote: how fun would it be for Jagr to have his NHL tour stop in Edmonton for a year or so and he is the guy that rides shotgun with McDavid and Hall?



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I'm genuinely surprised that hockey buzz is still up and running.


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Magnum wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 17:46

I'm genuinely surprised that hockey buzz is still up and running.


We need money... we need ad hits... we need web views... we need a big name rumour Ina big hockey market.... "Hall!!!"



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Magnum wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 17:46

I'm genuinely surprised that hockey buzz is still up and running.


Exactly

Although, I'd take Stone, or someone like him, over Purcell any day.

Hall and McD need a physical compliment to play with, that have enough speed to be in the same time zone when the other two enter the offensive zone.

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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 22 September 2015 16:46

not having to give up Yakupov or Draisaitl

Im curious how many people here look at this as a realistic option.

Well in particular the Draisaitl part.

I like Yakupov and I really hope he can find his way in Edmonton - but I could see moving him being a real possibility if the return is right.

No way would I move Draisaitl. I mean no one is untouchable, but I would trade Taylor Hall long before Id think about moving Leon. Taylor is what he is and is what he was in junior. Really fast, not particularly bright hockey wise, and likely to be injured a lot. This guy (Draisaitle) is going to be dominant for the next decade+. He's a centre and his hockey IQ and play making ability is off the charts. I honestly don't think Joe Thornton is an unfair comparison for him.

I have no idea if the organization feels the same way, or if they view trading him as a legitimate possibility, but I suspect based on some of the comments from Chia and the way the HC has treated him thus far (Not to mention that if anyone would appreciate what having that kind of player can do for a team its Maclellan) that they might look at it like I do.

Im curious what others here think - How do you group the forwards in terms of untouchability? For me the three centres are at the top of the list. Everyone else can be moved for need if the deal is right.




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