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I love the polarized reactions. Stuff is gonna get fun when the Oilers draft Murray.


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I'm about 3 more years of incompetent management away from finding a new team or sport. Any more than that and I might as well become a Leafs fan.


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If they draft Murray I won't be coming out there like planned in October.

Why should I spend my money on such an incompetent organization. Always draft the best player available. You would think they should have learned from trading the Parise pick to NJ.

They were lucky to get that number one pick again. They need to use it properly.



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Bad plan, seems like a desparerte move, by a crew running out of original ideas.


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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 21:08

Bad plan, seems like a desparerte move, by a crew running out of original ideas.


To me, it's the single smartest thing they've done in 3 years.



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hmc wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 18:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 21:08

Bad plan, seems like a desparerte move, by a crew running out of original ideas.


To me, it's the single smartest thing they've done in 3 years.


I'm not surprised.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 21:52

hmc wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 18:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 21:08

Bad plan, seems like a desparerte move, by a crew running out of original ideas.


To me, it's the single smartest thing they've done in 3 years.


I'm not surprised.


What can I say, I like smart people who understand hockey and that can adapt their processes.

ETA: Though I'm curious to know what exactly about my thoughts on this were so predictable? I've probably been the most critical of Tambellini and this organization on this site in the past 6 months or so.

[Updated on: Mon, 11 June 2012 20:36]


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This last piece, being McT, really does make our management team look a lot like the Detroit Red Wings organization.... doh


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So if things go to crap, who do we fire?


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Are you happy with MacT's return?[ 64 vote(s) ]
1.Nope! 18 / 28%
2.Yep! 31 / 48%
3.I dunno! 15 / 23%

Figured we could use a poll.

FTR, I voted no. I already beat my head against a wall trying to get rid of this guy the first time.



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The big issues is the old boys club one. Nepotism concerns were very real before Tambo got hereand now they're back. When will this team, no, fanbase be rid of Lowe. The guy just isn't an elite hockey management mind, let's get someone who is.


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There are not many people in the world that can string an entire career in the NHL without having an elite hockey mind. I know the town is getting sick of these guys but the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I am in the belief that there was a plan put in place a few years back with a very thought out process of how to get it accomplished. They started with no farm team then to now having a pretty good one. Now they are building up some good hockey brains in the front office to shoot the shat about every player that crosses their path. Lets see where they go in the next 2 years and then have their heads. Everyone is just so impatient.

Everything is trust and if you can trust the guy beside you then the 2 of you can go a lot further than each guy by themselves. Add in another guy and it just gets better.


I'm probably going to get lynched for this but man some people really just hate everything the Oilers think or do. Maybe they should look for a new team to cheer for because they could probably never be pleased anyway. Even if we do win a cup here there will still be something wrong with management or the owner or the players.



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TheOnlyRoz wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 00:46

There are not many people in the world that can string an entire career in the NHL without having an elite hockey mind. I know the town is getting sick of these guys but the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I am in the belief that there was a plan put in place a few years back with a very thought out process of how to get it accomplished. They started with no farm team then to now having a pretty good one. Now they are building up some good hockey brains in the front office to shoot the shat about every player that crosses their path. Lets see where they go in the next 2 years and then have their heads. Everyone is just so impatient.

Everything is trust and if you can trust the guy beside you then the 2 of you can go a lot further than each guy by themselves. Add in another guy and it just gets better.


I'm probably going to get lynched for this but man some people really just hate everything the Oilers think or do. Maybe they should look for a new team to cheer for because they could probably never be pleased anyway. Even if we do win a cup here there will still be something wrong with management or the owner or the players.


I don't really care about the MacT thing, it's the showing that Lowe pretty much has his run of the team, and Lowe has not had much success, with and without money to manage the team. Some would even say that once he got money he started making even worse decisions (Horcoff, Souray, Horcoff, Horcoff).

I like Tambo as a GM quite a bit and I think he has a real mess to clean up, but don't think it's his fault. Something's got to change, and the culture of mediocirty and suckness, has followed Lowe for his entire time in the back office, save 06.



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I have to agree with the mess to clean up. I still think that the cup run was one of the highest moments in the modern day Oilers but in turn has also been one of the lowest. I think they are well on their way to clean up those years. Now if they mess it up again with the kids coming off of their entry level deals only time will tell. For some reason I think they are going to get it right this time.


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TheOnlyRoz wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 01:03

I have to agree with the mess to clean up. I still think that the cup run was one of the highest moments in the modern day Oilers but in turn has also been one of the lowest. I think they are well on their way to clean up those years. Now if they mess it up again with the kids coming off of their entry level deals only time will tell. For some reason I think they are going to get it right this time.


I hope you're right, entrenched management with no significant record of success doesn't seem like a good starting point/platform.

Then again, what do I know, I'm sitting in my basement while they're making millions!

More from my artwork. MacT, K-Lowe, and Tambo, in the hit 90s movie Threesome


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I am trying really hard to not be negative about most things Oilers. But it is hard when they keep doing things that amount to nothing other than outright cronyism. No other NHL organization wanted McT in any capacity for three years. For this, he is rewarded by being brought back to where he objectively failed. Very, very few pro sports organizations are run this badly.



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MacT coming up on Gregor in 5min.

Edit - Good interview. Nice to have a manager who can give an honest, up front, intelligent interview.

Some points.
- Will be involved with pro scouting (good, our pro scouting stinks, although there's the Peterson factor)
- Thinks BPA, but the best player for the next 10-15 years.
- Strong offense will beat defensive mindset.
- Veterans need to step up and deliver.
- Defence needs to be improved.

[Updated on: Tue, 12 June 2012 17:18]


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I think MacT opens up options:

a) Oil can hire a younger coach
b) Oil can put Kruger in as coach
c) Oil have a plan "B" if the new coach fails - i.e. MacT
d) Oil have a plan for a new GM
e) Oil have a plan for a new President
f) Oil have a little more help for their pro scouts

He's a qualified hockey guy. As for the "old boys" stuff, take a look at every team: more than 20 of them are old boys clubs. Management rarely hire strangers.




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The more I think about it, the more I dont mind this hire.
How many times do you see teams hire former players into a special advisory post? Hull, Niewendyk, Robitaille, on and on.
And those guys had no management experience at all. MacT has coached at least for years.
I dont mind it. If for no other reason, keeping some of that glory team around town for public relations.
Now, if the team struggles horribly for the next few seasons, everybodies fair game.



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I was just reading the write-up in the Journal about MacT coming back, and they said he was secretly scouting for the Oilers when he worked on the pannel on TSN, and it was MacT who recommended Taylor Fedun to management. That was interesting. It also said MacT played an important role in the deal that brought Pronger to Edmonton in the summer of '05.

I don't know how our pro scouting staff still have jobs (unless of course Katz told management to try really hard to get a few top 3 overall draft picks - in that case, they were awesome at their job! I'm not being sarcastic either! Man is this ever a lot of writing in parenthases.. back to my original sentence!), but if we are entering the next phase: getting out of the basement, I really like MacT helping out with the pro scouting.



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MrOiler wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 22:59

I think MacT opens up options:

a) Oil can hire a younger coach
b) Oil can put Kruger in as coach
c) Oil have a plan "B" if the new coach fails - i.e. MacT
d) Oil have a plan for a new GM
e) Oil have a plan for a new President
f) Oil have a little more help for their pro scouts

He's a qualified hockey guy. As for the "old boys" stuff, take a look at every team: more than 20 of them are old boys clubs. Management rarely hire strangers.



I'm hoping for "D" or "E"...



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The more I think about it, the more I like the move to bring in MacT. He's no fool and (hopefully) makes decision-making a little easier for Tambo... he seems to need all the help he can get.

The MacTambLowe machine had better be very active this summer or there will be a ton of criticism. Just my $0.02.



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Tambellini's contract extended, MacT hired as VP of Hockey ops, this movie reminds the scene on Back to The Future II when Biff see's the flying DeLorean and say's "What the Hell is going on here?"


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What do you think that is so proven good about Mactavish? He hasn't been hired at an NHL level in anyway since he has left.

Yeah I'm sick about brining up 2006. Wow it looks like such a fluke. I look at the Kings and I think they'll be competing well next season.



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I had the same thought. Do you give a former NHL coach who has been unemployed or an AHL coach, the job they gave MacT?

It would be of interest to see the resumes of other people in his position on other teams.



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Some inconvenient truths about MacT and Toby Petersen:

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/6/14/3084888/how-craig-macta vish-really-handled-toby-petersen

In 06-07 Petersen:

played 64 games (9th amongst F)
played a total of 874 minutes and 46 seconds (10th amongst F)
played 662 minutes and 47 seconds at ES (9th amongst F)
played 87 minutes on the PP (9th amongst F)

So he was basically a 3rd liner on a team that suffered a bunch of injuries and dressed basically an AHL team for the last 20 games of the regular season. Can we let this crap about how MacT favoured Petersen die already?



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hmc wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 14:04

Some inconvenient truths about MacT and Toby Petersen:

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/6/14/3084888/how-craig-macta vish-really-handled-toby-petersen

In 06-07 Petersen:

played 64 games (9th amongst F)
played a total of 874 minutes and 46 seconds (10th amongst F)
played 662 minutes and 47 seconds at ES (9th amongst F)
played 87 minutes on the PP (9th amongst F)

So he was basically a 3rd liner on a team that suffered a bunch of injuries and dressed basically an AHL team for the last 20 games of the regular season. Can we let this crap about how MacT favoured Petersen die already?



Please, don't confuse people with the facts when they're perfectly happy with their preconceived notions.



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He played Peterson for something like 20 straight pp on the point and he got zero points. When asked about it he said he was a 'safe player'.

MacT had a dog house and once you were in it there was no coming out of it.

He also gave huge offensive oppos to players who had crap offensive talent as rewards. That is what made the recent Stauffer convos about him being a real offensive guy a joke.



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Beerfish Revisited wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 14:52

He played Peterson for something like 20 straight pp on the point and he got zero points. When asked about it he said he was a 'safe player'.

MacT had a dog house and once you were in it there was no coming out of it.

He also gave huge offensive oppos to players who had crap offensive talent as rewards. That is what made the recent Stauffer convos about him being a real offensive guy a joke.



Ahhh, another good reason for bringing back MacT. Now Beerfish will have two things to complain about again.

Of course, at the time Peterson was playing on the PP, the Oilers were mired in a team record losing streak, missing all the top players (Hemsky was injured, Horcoff was injured Smyth had been traded away) and were in the midst of the most obvious tank job the league has seen in years (they continued to play AHLers in regular shifts with a one-man forecheck while trailing in the dying minutes of games). But if you want to believe that Peterson was getting ice time ahead of Chris Pronger in 2006, then go ahead.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 16:22

Beerfish Revisited wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 14:52

He played Peterson for something like 20 straight pp on the point and he got zero points. When asked about it he said he was a 'safe player'.

MacT had a dog house and once you were in it there was no coming out of it.

He also gave huge offensive oppos to players who had crap offensive talent as rewards. That is what made the recent Stauffer convos about him being a real offensive guy a joke.



Ahhh, another good reason for bringing back MacT. Now Beerfish will have two things to complain about again.

Of course, at the time Peterson was playing on the PP, the Oilers were mired in a team record losing streak, missing all the top players (Hemsky was injured, Horcoff was injured Smyth had been traded away) and were in the midst of the most obvious tank job the league has seen in years (they continued to play AHLers in regular shifts with a one-man forecheck while trailing in the dying minutes of games). But if you want to believe that Peterson was getting ice time ahead of Chris Pronger in 2006, then go ahead.


Look, Beerfish's emotions told him that MacT was a stupid jerkface who overplayed Peterson because he had a man crush. Don't you dare ruin that for him. Don't you dare.

I like this hire. MacT's a smart guy when it comes to the nuts and bolts of hockey. I don't necessarily think he was the best choice as a coach, due to his personality, but regardless of what people like to suggest with their hand-wringing and general overreacting, he wasn't dumb.

I'd certainly trust him more than either Lowe or Tambo at this point.



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vsove wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 11:16




I'd certainly trust him more than either Lowe or Tambo at this point.

Absolutely regarding the management capacity. I've never had much faith in Lowe.

I was optimistic when Tambellini came on board, but have even less faith in him than Lowe now, although I thought it not to be possible. Not a very good hiring by the POHO if you ask me.



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 Re: MacT = Senior VP, hockey ops [message #574429 is a reply to message #574427 ]
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g2k wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 11:31

vsove wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 11:16




I'd certainly trust him more than either Lowe or Tambo at this point.

Absolutely regarding the management capacity. I've never had much faith in Lowe.

I was optimistic when Tambellini came on board, but have even less faith in him than Lowe now, although I thought it not to be possible. Not a very good hiring by the POHO if you ask me.


I was excited when Tambo was hired. But he's done absolutely nothing - if that's what he was told to do, fair enough, but then why did we try to hire someone competent? For a few hundred thousand a year, I can sit around and do nothing :P



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 Re: MacT = Senior VP, hockey ops [message #574437 is a reply to message #574427 ]
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g2k wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 11:31

vsove wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 11:16




I'd certainly trust him more than either Lowe or Tambo at this point.

Absolutely regarding the management capacity. I've never had much faith in Lowe.

I was optimistic when Tambellini came on board, but have even less faith in him than Lowe now, although I thought it not to be possible. Not a very good hiring by the POHO if you ask me.


Yeah, I completely agree on Tambellini. I was pretty happy about the hire when we brought him on. I thought that Lowe had lost the plot a little bit after the Pronger fiasco, and that it was a good idea to bring in someone else to helm the ship. I like the idea of a braintrust that kicks things around, because I think they're less likely to make a glaring mistake than one guy acting impulsively.

But Tambellini has no impulses. He doesn't act. He just thinks about acting forever. There's so many cases now where a decision that most teams make in an instant, he drags on and on. He waited weeks after the season to let go Quinn, he waited weeks AGAIN to let go Renney. He's now waiting as long again to decide on a coach, and even quality assistant coaches (Perry Pearn, for instance) are getting snapped up by other teams while we're mulling things over. He doesn't seem to communicate well as evidenced by the way Quinn departed and the Souray blowout.

And then he said last week that he thinks there might be good reasons NOT to try to sign Hall and Eberle to extensions until after their deals run out!??! What on earth are those reasons?

Lots of people have suggested that Lowe still pulls all the strings, but I see strong evidence that it's Tambellini who has the final say. When Lowe was the GM, he was many things, but indecisive wasn't one of them. I think the fatal flaw for Lowe was that he didn't always seem to wait long enough to make decisions (seriously, $5MM/season for 5 years for Nylander? That's a deal he drew up on the back of a napkin without bothering to even look at the stats). But I think this might actually be worse - well, the team's record with him as GM certainly bears that out.

In the end, MacT is well-positioned to take over as GM for a guy who hasn't been able to improve the team through any way but the first round of the draft (and if that's the only way you can improve the team? Well, you'll be a perpetual loser). If the team continues to struggle, hopefully Tambellini has used up his last extra life here and isn't allowed to scapegoat any one else.




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