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Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21) [message #827795 is a reply to message #827794 ]	Wed, 29 November 2023 14:18

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stemhovlichski wrote on Wed, 29 November 2023 13:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 29 November 2023 10:14

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 29 November 2023 09:46

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 29 November 2023 09:01

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 28 November 2023 22:55

Trade McLeod.

I would agree. 3rd line center on a team is pretty important and he's giving them nothing. His last goal was Mar 9, 2023. That was 38 games ago. A guy with that much speed and he drove the net a grand total of 1 time. I don't get what his problem is.

Just some perspective on McLeod. He is 4th lowest 5v5 PDO (0.912) in the NHL for players with >200 mins played. Foegele is the lowest (0.893) in the league. It's mainly driven by a 1.54% on ice shooting % for McLeod when he's out there. Insanely low and not really something anyone should expect to continue. Worst PDO in the NHL 5v5 last year was 0.947 (Jaden Schwartz) for 800+ mins. Worst on ice SH% for 800+mins was 5.10% (Girgensons). Basically no regular forward saw anything close to what McLeod is experiencing now over a full season. Dropping to 500+ mins to include all the 4th liners, Glendening was worst with 3.8% Only 3 players in the league out of 593 even semi-regular forwards saw less than 5%. Anyways, really bad luck is a factor here IMO.

McLeod actually has more shots on net/60 than any other season. He is 2nd on the team in shots for % 5v5, the puck is usually going the right way when he's out there which has been a very rare thing to happen over the last decade and a half. Pretty bizzare year for him so far. I'd give the Knob a chance to try to figure something out with the depth players. They certainly need to get to the net more. McLeod probably needs some winger help with that. I don't think Holland is going to find much better out there to replace him any time this season.

I respect your opinion and I appreciate what you are saying but I view those as making excuses for a guy flat out not performing.

He hasn't scored a goal in 38 games. He has 1 goal in his last 50 games. I am sorry but saying it's a product of low shooting percentage and good save percentage, I just don't buy it. If he was shooting a ton and being unlucky, I could accept that. He has 29 shots total this season in 21 games. That's 1.38 shots a game. So basically, if he doesn't score on the 1 shot on goal he gets per game, that's it. I don't think that's Ok.

If you look at his stats. Last year he had 82 shots in 71 games last year. So this isn't a product of him being not confident. This is his MO. That's a problem. He doesn't change how he plays. He doesn't go to the net hardly at all. He's one of the fastest guys in the NHL. Take the puck hard to the goal. If he did that consistently, he'd have more than 1.3 shots per game and he'd score more. He's not a 1 shot scorer. Never been. But he won't do it. To me, it's because taking it to the net means you get contact and he avoids contact.

It is a serious problem. A 3rd line center is extremely important for a team and he's not doing it. I gave an option in speculation. Sean Monahan. He's a UFA and the price differenced is 115 K. The Habs are a young team.I'd be offering up McLeod to them.

Are we going to get another Toby Rieder-honouring knockout pool going again for McLeod?

Agreed he owns the perimeter but is useless in close right now.

Of the forwards that play, only McLeod, Erne and Brown are goal less. Watching that game live, I would say that McLeod is the farthest away from scoring.

Erne only got 6 mins but had 2 really good chances. He had a good tip and almost scored against the Ducks.

Brown was really coming on before he got hurt in the Dallas game. I think he is starting to come around again so I could see him getting on soon.

McLeod, unless he changes dramatically, I don't see it. He doesn't go to the front of the net. When the puck is in the crease area, he's off too the side. Case in point in the 3rd. Shot comes from the point. Ryan who's smaller is in the blue paint and puts it off the post. McLeod is standing off to the side.

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Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 28 November 2023 22:55
Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21)	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 29 November 2023 09:01
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Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21)	By: stemhovlichski on Wed, 29 November 2023 13:56
Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21)	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 29 November 2023 14:18
Re: Review: Vegas @ Edmonton (Game #21)	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 30 November 2023 01:43
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