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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 19:45

Fans say many douchey things when criticizing teams, but some of the baseless personal attacks are beyond the pale. He’s just a lazy person! He’s stupid! He only cares about himself! He only cares about money!

I mean - if you’ve interacted a whole bunch with a person and you know they’re just not a smart person, that’s one thing. But most of this is just lashing out because you’re mad at someone for making a mistake.

Generally, I think the MacT comments about social media are pretty ridiculous but there are some kernels of truth there too. Its not great when people who’ve never met you and know nothing about you are trying to assassinate your character on the internet.

I completely agree with CrusaderPi in this discussion. While the less knowledgeable believe that benching players is a magic panacea which will automatically make them better or prove that they’re useless if they don’t immediately respond, that kind of thinking is completely archaic. There are about a million studies now on motivation showing that just giving random punishments isn’t the most impactful way to improve anyone on anything. And crapping on your players in public is probably even less impactful.

It’s not like players can’t see when they make mistakes. It’s not like they don’t want to win. And fan’s focus on errors causing goals is a huge mistake because it ignores 99% of the game when goals aren’t being scored. If coaches respond to just the high visibility plays to make punishments then they’re almost certainly going to make bad decisions.

It’s also pretty notable that fans and crappy media guys do always seem much more concerned about benching players they see as too soft or over-focussed on offence. Ekholm, Ceci and Desharnais all made glaring errors leading to goals against last night but all Spector and some others would like to talk about is Evan Bouchard.

I didn't expect Woody to call out anyone. Let's be clear on that, finally. I'm also not pining for him to get fired. Mostly because it's been a coaching carousel, and I certainly don't have any answers for a replacement. I just wish the man would grow a set. No, I'm not in the room, but I sense this guy coaches with fluffy kid gloves. This doesn't automatically mean I expect him to become a tyrant either, just to be clear.

You can infer I'm less knowledgeable, that's fine. But I noticed recently some "in game" circumstances meant #91 had to miss some ice time. Up to that point he was pretty disappointing in his play. He was pissed about the lack of ice time. He responded to it. So even though you state there are a million studies on motivation that state random punishment isn't the most impactful way to improve anyone on anything, as a parent and breathing human being, I'm willing to bet there are a million studies that counter your claim. Does it work for everyone in every situation? Of course not.

So yes, I was happy Spector called Woody out. Because he was thinking the same thing as many of us simpletons. But somehow this comment of mine has turned into Spector trying to get the coach to publicly poop on a player, when all that really occurred was the reporter called out the coach on his previous claims regarding the need for accountability. I honestly feel if it wasn't Spector that asked the question, this thread would have died Monday night.





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