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 inverno76
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Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 13:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 12:19 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 11:19 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 10:29 |
I got to love it when I get into arguments about how the Oilers didn't get enough value for a player like Yamo, then the Wings take him all so they could get the rights to Kostin so they can overpay Kostin and buy him out. As much as I liked Kostin, he's a 4th liner right now. Maybe on the Wings he plays higher up but on the Oilers, he's in their bottom 6 and should be making maybe at most 1.25 mill.
Watch the Wings give him a 2 yr, 1.6 mill deal plus when you add on Yamo's buy out, he's not basically a 2 mill player.
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Two things:
1) You're still missing the point. The point is, trade players before their value is nothing, and don't actively contribute to reducing their value to nothing, which is what you do if you announce to the world that you pretty much need to make a move with that specific player.
2) You're right about Yzerman here. He has to have a sense as to what Kostin will cost to keep in North America, and he's just added a million dollars to the cost of getting him with this buyout. It's a stunning mistake.
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A real question regarding trading Yamamoto. When would have been the correct time to trade him when he still had value?
When he had value we needed him. It fell off a cliff. They could’ve traded him at his initial drop off point, but he is young and should have conceivably rebounded. I guess he could’ve been moved before he signed his two year deal, but Edmonton like everyone else still saw a player there.
Then the 22/23 starts and he gets hurt. It appears to be chronic. Now he’s dead weight and hopefully going to recover and restart his career.
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The Oilers are the closest to the player and they should have the best insight in to what that player is and can be. They should be setting expectations and negotiating contracts based on that. Last summer, the team had two young right wings who have draft pedigree (which means nothing, but is overvalued by many fans and GMs). Both had had some ups and downs and they decided with both of them to give them relatively high contracts, including giving two years to Yamamoto. They both were simply given away within a year, which means the team screwed up last summer and should have been looking for a better way to spend that $6.2MM.
I mean, it's fine to say that they needed a good young right wing last year, but it's not like we're in a different situation now. We still need a good young right wing. And if we hadn't made it so blatantly clear that we wanted to trade this specific player - if the team would ever talk up its players instead of constantly wishing they were just a little better than they are or bigger than they are or grittier than they are in an attempt to pass blame from management to the players, then maybe someone else looks at him and thinks - there's a 20-goal scoring right wing who's still relatively young and can add something to my team and you get more than needing to throw in a player that another team wants in order to get rid of him.
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Hindsight is 20/20. It was the correct move last season and it didn’t turn out. Show me a GM who hasn’t had something go dreadfully wrong for him every season and I’ll show you a guy who is in Dynasty mode in EA Sports.
I think you’re blinded by your dislike of Oilers management on this one.
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