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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 29 June 2023 10:42 |
| smyth260 wrote on Thu, 29 June 2023 10:30 |
| inverno76 wrote on Thu, 29 June 2023 09:15 |
| smyth260 wrote on Thu, 29 June 2023 09:50 |
"Did you want me to get him for free" - Ken Holland 2 years before giving away Yamamoto for free.
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This feels like a win. It did not cost us to get rid of a decent size contract attached to a small, injury prone, underperforming winger.
Am I reading this wrong? Did people expect to gain assets and no salary retention?
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Does it accomplish the main goal of clearing salary? Yes.
But there is a scale to these things. The worst way to accomplish this would be a buyout or trade with retention. The middling way to accomplish this is a trade for future considerations. The best way is to get some sort of asset back, which we are seeing happen in the last week with other deals.
So its another middling move by a lazy 5 million dollar GM who doesn’t go any lengths to find the best solution, but rather the easiest one. If you want to be the best team, your front office has to be the among the best too.
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Yeah, that's a good explanation. It's isn't a bad deal, it's a lazy deal at a bad time. I'd probably feel better about sending Yams out for nothing if I believed Holland was capable of using Cap Space to its full potential. I don't. Feeling lucky that the Oilers didn't wait until he had negative value isn't giving me great hope for the rest of summer.
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Exactly.
I don't think Holland is a good negotiator. He doesn't really understand how to make a market for his assets - and he is so clear about his plans that people know he's not going to walk away. They're able to just wait him out, knowing he's going to cave. Holland has these arbitrary deadlines he sets too - and they don't really work well for him. Chicago used the same thing with the Keith deal. The draft was when Holland felt we needed to do this, so he was always going to cave around now.
I don't think Yzerman has done very well as a GM since leaving the great support network in Tampa, but he sure is able to take advantage of the old guy - Detroit's done very well dealing with the Oilers the last few years.
Yamamoto isn't the sniper that Oilers fans may have hoped for when he was getting hyped up by the media post-draft. He's still a useful player, and we started signalling weeks ago that we need to get rid of him.
I do think it's funny to see people suggesting we were going to get a return on Yamamoto shifting now to just saying it's great he's gone for nothing.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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