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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 09:40 |
| twilson1111 wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 01:21 |
Given the systemic and repetitive nature of these problems, I’d concede that management must be to blame. As a manager myself, I’d guess that they’ve equated success in one area with likelihood of success in another (I just had to remove a guy at work due to making that mistake - he went from hero to zero). It’s a horrible mistake to make, because you then need to reverse course on all the recent praise and encouragement you’ve given them and they will not likely take that well, given their expectations of continued success
Famous players do not necessarily make good GMs
Famous players do not necessarily make good coaches
Good pluggers do not necessarily make good captains
Highly skilled youth do not necessarily make good leaders
Past teammates do not necessarily make good management
Family members do not necessarily make good draft picks
In all of these cases, the organization lacks an EYE FOR TALENT. They don’t understand why people are successful in certain roles, and how that might be different depending on the role.
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I'd agree with all the above, but regarding the bolded: I've liked our draft picks for the most part since Chia took over. Not sure if Keith Gretzky is the main person involved in those or if it's still mostly Chia or the scouts, but for the first time in forever we actually have some legitimate prospects in our system (other than the no brainer top 5 picks who were pushed immediately into the NHL due to lack of other options)
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Remember, we've been in this spot before...remember when everyone thought Stu McGregor was doing great because there were a bunch of guys graduating to the AHL? Until we start seeing more of the depth picks making impacts on the NHL roster, I'm hesitant to give this scouting regime a lot of credit. Some of the early returns look promising, but that's about it.
Also - there's reason to believe the pro scouting still sucks.
Not sure which side Chiarelli's brother is on...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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By: Adam on Tue, 11 December 2018 17:14 |
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