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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Some insight in to his plans from the future from that Athletic interview with DNB. Holland loves to give that kid the goods. Sadly for us, the news is not usually great in those interviews:
On Steve Staios rumours:
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When I was in Detroit, Steve Yzerman left, Jim Nill left and Mike Babcock left for better opportunities. My feeling always has been, if you’ve got good people and they get an opportunity to go elsewhere, it’s hard to hold them back.
On the flip side, when you do have people leave, it allows other people to grow. Also, people from another organization want to come to you because they feel they can move ahead in this business.
With Steve, I don’t really know anything. There’s lots of speculation now that Andlauer has bought Ottawa and his relationship with Steve in Hamilton. I have not spoken to Steve about it. My focus is the offseason (for the Oilers).
Because Steve came in here late (last offseason), he did some player development for us. He pitched in in the OHL (scouting). But in key areas (for assistant GMs), pro scouting is Brad Holland, running Bakersfield is Keith Gretzky and administration (the cap) is Bill Scott. We’ve got to keep people in place.
My plan is to figure things out. We’ll see what the future brings. I’ve never really worried about that. There are lots of good people in the business. People move around. They come and they go.
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On contending and making the team better:
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Well, you can always be pretty close and never win it. But to win it, you’ve got to be close, right?
My take is, if you want to win in the playoffs, you’ve got to win in the regular season. You’ve got to be in the playoffs on an annual basis. You’ve got to be in lots of playoff experiences. Vegas has been in the conference final four of the last six years. Certainly, you’ve watched the evolution of Tampa Bay and Colorado.
I can’t guarantee that it’s going to happen in Edmonton. I can’t guarantee that it’s going to happen anywhere. But the path, as I see it, is to try and build a really good team. You’ve probably got to be in the top quarter of the league. And you just don’t do it once.
You’ve got to stick with it. You can’t just blow up half the team. We’re in a salary-cap world. There’s contracts. There’s commitments.
We feel like we have a good team (based on) regular season statistics over the last 120 games. That’s not three or four years, but it’s a fairly significant period of time. When you look at the age of our team, we’re really in our window here. It’s another year or two.
We have cap challenges. We have to make some decisions. I’m not going to tell you that we can make the team better, but we’ve got to try to keep the team as good as we can. Maybe make it a wee bit different.
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On adding another big piece:
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No chance.
I can count to 83.5. I’m not going to tell you I’m better at it than you are, but I can count to 83.5. When you look at what’s on the books, we know what we’re dealing with.
Now, we like our core once we made the move with Ekholm. What you see, too, is this is a team sport. You can wager on another $5 million player — well, we can’t; we don’t have any space — but all you’re doing if you do that is you’re thinning out the bottom part of the roster.
To do that, you have to have a whole bunch of draft picks and young players pushing through the system. I’ve obviously been spending draft picks. We’re trying to win. With Connor (McDavid) and Leon (Draisaitl) and how good they are and the age they are, we’ve been trying to maximize the window of opportunity.
So, no chance we can bring in another high-expense player.
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On Bouchard negotiations:
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We’ve talked two or three times. We’ve got work to do. We’re challenged. We’ve got to find a solution.
It looks like the salary cap’s going to move next year. Then, I’d think it would start to go up like it was before — $3 million to $5 million every year. I’m going to my fifth year as the manager of the Oilers. The first year I was here, the cap was $81.5 million. Five years later, the cap is $83.5 million.
In that time, (Kailer) Yamamoto wants a raise, and (Jesse) Puljujarvi wants a raise. Bouchard wants a raise. (Ryan) McLeod wants a raise. Skinner wants a raise. (Darnell) Nurse wants a raise. We trade for Ekholm. We sign (Zach) Hyman. We re-sign Kane. Things are tight. Money is tight. It’s a salary-cap world.
We found a solution a year ago with McLeod on a one-year deal. I’ve got to find a deal that works for the Bouchard camp and works for the Oilers.
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On team depth/free agency:
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Well, if you look at our team, there are five big forwards in the top six. Obviously, Yamamoto’s played a lot of time up in there. I do know that we have to move a player out just to get cap compliant.
Certainly, there’s the importance of having a bottom six as we saw last year. We’ve signed Derek Ryan. I am having conversations with (Mattias) Janmark. We’ve talked about Klim Kostin. We’ve got Dylan Holloway. I’ve got to go to camp and figure out Raphael Lavoie. But it’s important to build a bottom six that can check, kill some penalties, and maybe chip in with some offence.
We’re set in goal. I look at defence. Obviously, there’s Nurse, there’s (Cody) Ceci, there’s Ekholm and Bouch, and there’s (Brett) Kulak. Vinny Desharnais played really good in the regular season. He had some tough moments in the L.A. series, but he settled down and played pretty steady again in the Vegas series.
For guys like Stu Skinner and Vinny Desharnais — players going through the playoffs the first go-around — they’re learning moments.
In free agency, we’re not in on the $4 million, $5 million or $6 million players. I’m not even sure we’re in on the $2.5 million or $3 million players. It’ll be maybe a sixth or seventh defenceman. Obviously, we have (Philip) Broberg and Desharnais. I’ve got to figure out exactly what I’m doing with those two guys. I’ve got to sort out the bottom part of the forward roster.
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I’ve been talking to Jay Woodcroft about him. I believe Jay Woodcroft, Dave Manson and I all think he has the potential to be a top-four guy. Now, saying all that, you’ve got to play. To play better, you’ve got to play. When you’ve got Darnell Nurse on the left side, and Ekholm, and Kulak, they’re pros. It’s a dilemma.
I don’t really have an answer for you right now. That’s what I’ve got to sort out in the next couple of weeks. But being in the seven hole, playing five minutes, I don’t know that that’s doing much for his development and growth as a player. He needs to play 15 to 20 minutes.
That’s the downside. The upside is it sounds like we’ve got a pretty good defence. Those aren’t bad problems. Those are good problems. Over 82 games, you probably need seven defencemen, and everybody gets their ice time. But he needs to get in the lineup every night. He needs to play every night and feel important. That’s how young people grow.
I feel really good about our left-side D. He can play right. I think he’s most comfortable on left. Broberg’s development and growth weighs on my mind on a regular basis.
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All the questions you’re asking me are valid questions. I don’t have any answers for you right now. Like I said, it weighs on my mind. He’s just about to turn 22. He’s pretty young.
We’re in win-now mode. That’s why I traded a second (round pick) for Kulak and kept Kulak. He’s been everything we hoped he could be. We made the deal for Ekholm. We’re trying to bring in veteran defencemen because, come playoff time, we probably win with veteran defencemen over kids.
I’ve got to sort all that out.
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On the draft:
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First off, we traded a fifth-round pick to the Rangers (on May 31) to get a player (Jayden Grubbe). He’s really a drafted player.
Nothing is going to happen with the sixth and the seventh. We’re going to use them. We’re planning on using the two. Does a deal come up where I put a two in a trade? Maybe. I’m not expecting that to happen. Does the phone ring and somebody want to move up to two and we move back a little bit and get an extra pick? That’s a possibility.
Tyler Wright (director of amateur scouting) and his people think there’s going to be somebody there at two that we’re going to like. They think it’s a pretty deep draft.
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There's a whole lot to unpack here. I really don't like the confidence level of a GM who says "well, I can't guarantee we ever win." He seems super grouchy about the Staios stuff too.
He's pretty definitive in thinking that A) goaltending is fine and B) Skinner and Desharnais having bad playoffs is just good for their development. So so much for any hope that he's going to address the goalie position.
From there, the Broberg stuff is just weird. He's basically saying that he prefers Kulak here, since he thinks Broberg should be playing his off-wing. He expresses almost some frustration that he's not playing enough - which isn't great for the player's value because it underlines that his coach preferred playing older meh guys (including one who was playing atrociously in Desharnais) - which isn't going to help bolster his value if he's looking at trading him. Honestly, the whole exchange sounds exactly like he's thinking about dealing Broberg - which would be puzzling since he's cheap, mobile, big and can play both sides. I'm not sure what you'd get as a bottom pairing guy that would be better than that, and since we're not trading him for a big ticket guy, I can't see how dealing him would help the Oilers.
He also says almost expressly that they want to trade Yamamoto for cap space. Again - not doing anything to hide his hand isn't probably putting him in the best negotiating position. Pretty unclear what they're thinking for the 6th top six forward after that. Maybe hoping Holloway or Foegele can be that guy?
Also - expect a short bridge deal for Bouchard in an attempt to save money - he references that he did that with McLeod...
And as for anyone hoping that he was going to have a creative and productive summer, we have a whole lot of complaining about the cap and how hard it is since it hasn't gone up. He seems to have only planned for big jumps in the cap to help him out. That having failed, he's out of ideas on how to manage.
We do get a nice little story about his time in Detroit though, so everybody drink!
[Updated on: Fri, 16 June 2023 14:19]
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