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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #33) [message #801325 is a reply to message #801317 ]	Tue, 08 March 2022 10:53

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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 08 March 2022 09:02

I saw an extremely undermanned due to injury/illness team lose to a very good but completely healthy team with a goalie that will be in the top 3 in vezina voting.

At forward, the Oilers had:
Shore - 10:29 - 1:11 PK - 2 shots, 1 hit
Malone - 8:07 - 1:53 PK - 3 shots, 0 hits
Benson - 6:37 - 0 shots, 1 hit
Sceviour - 5:20 - 0 shots, 1 hit

This isn't a Benson basing post so people can relax and put down your pitch forks for me. All of those players are not full time NHLers either right now or ever. The 3 vets are guys who can maybe be your 13th forward but during a season they aren't in your line up night after night. Benson who knows. Maybe he turns into something but right now, he's still working on finding his way. In my opinion, a team can have 1 of those type of players in their line up every night and be fine, you can't have 4 at once. When you are playing 4 of them due to injury, that forces your coach to play the crap out of the other 8 guys to compensate and your better players get worn down and tired.

When healthy, Nuge is in, JP is in. The contract isn't good but Kassian is a better player and is in over all of them. Taking the money issue out of it, Kassian is on the team before any of them on any NHL team. Archibald and all the issues with vaccine doesn't change the fact if he was available, he would be in over every guy on that list because he's better and that would be the same for every NHL team.

One defense, the Oilers had to play:
Niemelainen - 10:39 - 0.30 PK
Lagesson - 10:59 - 0.42 PK
Broberg - 22:34 - 2:43 PP, 2:09 PK.

Niemelainen, I like the player, I think there is a something there but he's not a full time NHLer yet. Lagesson, I am not a fan of because I don't see a dimension but I see him as at best a #7. Broberg has played excellent the last 2 games. I think he will be a good one but he's 20, he's not ready for full time NHL yet.. They were missing Barrie, Bouchard, Russell. When healthy, I think all 3 are in over the 3 above because warts and all, they are better players right now. I thought Niemelainen and Lagesson struggled a lot and their ice time shows they did which means you play the crap out the 4 guys that are decent and one of them is 20 who will make mistakes.

What I said doesn't change that the team make up has issues but when you have to play 6-7 guys who are either not NHLers yet at all, might never be NHLers again or are rookies learning on the fly, you won't win against too many teams.

There is a bit of cause and effect for sure here with the circle of trust in the 4th liners, you like to get more out of the 4th line, plus players out of the lineup against a healthy team.....but it remains that in the biggest game of the season, Leon Draisatl with 1 shot in 24 min TOI, including probably at least 7-8 minutes on the abysmal 5 PP opportunities. Connor with 3 shots in big minutes, 5 PP opportunities, and 5v5 loaded up line in a big game, pretty invisible by the established standard. Yamamoto, zeros across the board. Foegele no shots, no hits. McCleod zero shots. Hyman no hits, a big part of why he's there is physicality on the forechceck and being a puck hound, zone retrievals. The top 6 didn't have a good night, Kane was engaged a bit more than others.

This was a special teams loss more than anything if the rest of the game is played tight. One PPG against. On the PP, no threat from the point. Lots of high turnovers, half board turnovers, static outside Connor circling the wagons. The PP gave up more chances than it generated. Without Nuge, the only guy really willing with the puck in the zone to move things around is Connor, and even he was forcing things to static targets and turning pucks over. Leon when he's got the puck is usually static, looking to pass to Connor or 3 other guys who aren't moving. I'd like to see him venture up high or around the net with possession to get the lanes & seams moving because he can make a pass, the way it is he's gotta be really easy to isolate and force for a penalty killer if he's got the puck and is nearly motionless.

Also, Koskinen wasn't terrible but the one or two extra stops that Calgary got certainly factors into the complexion of the game. Calgary was able to even out their minute distribution more because they led most of the game. They played their system, lots of hits and lots of blocks.

This team moreso when healthy is capable of the run required, if they support their own zone on puck retrievals and exits and mitigate their chances against. They still have game breakers who can be the difference. What happens in their zone is critical to support inexperienced D. They can add a goal in 4 PP opportunities if they try some creativity on the PP and stop giving up chances against by forcing pucks to static targets through killers' sticks . It's on the guys who dress, Holland has painted himself into a corner and isn't going to rescue the team with a starter or a RH D. It doesn't happen if they don't play consistently responsibly in and exiting their zone, to a man.

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