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 Re: The Blackhawks and Allegations of Sexual Assault [message #793629 is a reply to message #793608 ]
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Adam wrote on Wed, 27 October 2021 20:02

JPro wrote on Wed, 27 October 2021 18:14


Hard disagree, Adam. Duncan Keith is now a 38 year old man. Every year that went by is another year of him enabling this behavior and allowing it to be pushed under the rug. This whole story seeing the light of day is minor miracle in itself given how little of a crap the team, the league and the NHLPA gave. Most media outlets wouldn’t touch it. It’s turning out they all knew and chose to bury the story.

Beach says the verbal abuse happened in the locker room, on the ice, and around the arena, and around media staff. He believes everyone on the team knew about it. And Keith still to this day claims otherwise. I think this is more than “looking bad” for lying. It’s abhorrent.

As for Toews, he either:

1. Didn’t know about it despite it being a much talked about thing in the locker room and on the ice (wasn’t Beach involved in preseason fights with teammates?)
2. Knew all about and did nothing

Both of these are signs of a garbage leader. He continues to remain silent on the issue. Strip the C. I know he was ~21 at the time, but it’s been a long time since and he hasn’t spoken up.

Keith gets nothing but boos from me going forward.



I don't know what people think the players should have done. They didn't make the decision to keep the guy for the remainder of the playoffs. Many (most?) may not have known anything happened until after the playoffs. Toews is saying he knew by the following training camp. At that point the video coach is gone.

The player isn't going to the police, so it's not like Duncan Keith can go report Aldrich at that point. If he gave a reference for the guy knowing, then that's a different story, but it's completely feasible that they didn't know where he ended up.

If they were bullying the players involved, then that's absolutely scumbag stuff. Absolutely if they were involved in that? Tar and feather them all you need. But if they just knew? I mean, Sopel and Boynton knew and they couldn't really do anything. I don't know what you can do there other than maybe provide a little support.

Lying about knowing though? That's a really bad look and it's likely to catch up to you. Keith wasn't believable and didn't seem at all empathetic - despite his attempt at the start to seem so. He said he didn't resent management's handling, and didn't find a different word to say he regretted it. He didn't say he wished he knew, or that he wished there was anything he could do. He hit his original talking points and then he just denied even hearing rumours or rumblings about anything. He comes off like a bit of a douchebag. But that's not something you end careers over.


Didn’t Kyle Beach also say in the interview that he didn’t know Sopel or Boynton, the players claiming that everybody knew?

You have a black ace who’s never played an NHL game. You have players maybe knowing the victim in at most a very limited capacity. I’m not sure what we expect of them here.



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