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| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 22:15 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 20:56 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 19:21 |
| Daftmonk wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 17:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 December 2018 12:52 |
Starts ~33:00 in
https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/31-thoughts-podcast/dec-10 -2018-andrew-ference/
Summary stolen from a poster on hf
- Said players don't do well here because they're too afraid to make mistakes (and thus grow their game) because the media and fans will attack them and drive them out. Brought up Schultz and Petry as examples.
- He was not too happy with the Oilers due to the drastic difference in work ethic and commitment
- Other players who came from contenders/Stanley Cup teams were also frustrated by the lack of effort from the team
- Says Eakins was a good coach ("unfairly treated", "was he perfect? no") that demanded good work ethic but there was a group of players who refused to put any effort into practices. They were "too cool" to practice and were all talk when it came to winning. These players also had derogatory terms for teammates who tried to hard during practice.
- This group of players were all talk (in front of the media about wanting to win) and were more interested in living the partying lifestyle.
- Respect was given out based on "how well your toedrag was" and so it was hard getting much respect as a #4-5 defencemen.
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https://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/fe rence-exaggerating-claims-of-hard-partying-edmonton-oilers-t eam-that-didnt-care-says-ryan-nugent-hopkins
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I just read this before logging on. Pretty reasonable comments by Nuge. Ference didn't really speak to his own failure....I mean, he WAS captain of the club, was he not? I think Ference is right up there with Shane Corson and Moreau as far as captains go.
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I think Corson's in a league of his own as far as crappy captains go. He feuded with the coach and had a fight in the dressing room with Weight and Arnott. He was wild before he came to Edmonton, and the Oilers for some reason thought that maybe giving him more responsibility would make him responsible. Instead he was just a disaster.
With Ference, it was always a dumb idea to bring a guy in (on a bad contract) who didn't really know almost anyone in the room and hand him the captaincy, simply because he'd been on a Stanley Cup team before.
On top of that, the team didn't just make the decision, but made it drawn out so that the media guys could all speculate and write loving sonnets about various players who were candidates - creating the feel of winners and losers in the process.
Ference had no friends or allies in the room (other than the ultra-lame and full-of-himself coach) and was now supposed to be the leader? It was just a dumb idea. #becauseoilers
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Yeah, this just isn't a good look for Ference in my opinion.
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Ference took to twitter to add to the matter, adding that he’s disappointed in his own failures in his leadership and how he notices #97’s leadership coupled with Bob changing the culture exponentially.
Give it a read.
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