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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54) [message #729949 is a reply to message #729948 ]	Thu, 07 February 2019 16:49

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:43

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 07 February 2019 15:51

If the Oilers are to have a chance, they need their goaltending to be flat out better. Yes their defense hasn't been that great which doesn't help things but it starts in goal. They need consistent goaltending. If your team is confident the guy between the pipes will give you the stops you need, it gives you confidence in the rest of your game. When the Oilers went on their big run earlier on, Koskinen was great, gave them the key saves at the right time, the team played with no fear and they won.

It's true that if our goalie stands on his head and bails the team out constantly, we have a chance to win every night. But, you can't just expect that to happen consistently unless you have prime Roy or Hasek back there. There has to be periods where the 18 skaters are actually all being useful and helping the goalie out too and he's struggling. That just rarely ever happens. And it happens so rarely that we eventually kill the confidence of any goalie we have. It's a never ending cycle when your team is trash.

Every season is a series of ups and downs for every player, goalies included. When your team is junk though, the amount of downs happening through your lineup happen more often and things can start to snowball.

Almost every win this year as required:
1) Perfection from Mcdavid/Drai/Nuge
2) Perfection from the goalie

Just not a recipe for consistent success, relying on 4 guys to make up for the uselessness of 14 others every single night. And it's always on such a knifes edge that if any of those 4 guys is off, it's probably game over.

I am not taking .940 goaltending. What about league average goaltending? I fully understand their defense isn't good. I get it. I also know that a good defense can have an uptick on a goalies stats. But if your goalies need a bunch of norris trophy winners in order to give you league average goaltending, that's a problem and it's not all defense.

I look at last game. Yes Talbot player pretty well but the first goal was a 65 ft floater wrist shot. I am sorry, you have to stop that. If the expectation of any goalie is ZERO shots get through, then they will never win. I am not taking about a glass breaking Weber bomb here. It was a freaking wrist shot. Stromes goal. Another long range wrist shot. He was 40 ft away and Talbot is on his knees and it goes over his shoulder. Why? Why are you done for a shot that far out? The Kane goal was off a junk rebound. COntrol the rebound properly, there is no goal.

Did the Oilers play like crap in the 3rd. You bet. BUt it goes both ways. Make the stops you should. They 2 guys they got right now, aren't.

I just think this team is so messed in the head they're just gonna keep playing bad when the pressure is on until they finally make their goalie crack. When we have a lead in the 3rd, the other team comes out determined to tie it up and most of this team just wilts. The play in the 3rd last game was so embarrassing, there was no goalie on earth that was gonna save that game for us. And that's how this team has been doing things for a while. They usually start games like trash and can't wake up until they finally get scored on. They can't close out games because they can't handle when the other team is putting their full effort in.

A lot of the good we see on this team is smoke and mirrors. We look good (more than just McDavid's line) because the other team is bad too, or off their game. When the other team is good and actually putting the pressure on, we usually look bad, because we are beyond the very top end of the lineup.

For sure it would be nice to get better goaltending. I think we've finally run Talbot's confidence to the point where he's checking out on this team. We talk about the team having no confidence in the goalie. Well, I think Talbot is aware of when his team is playing like trash in front of him too and setting him up to fail, and he's probably had enough of it. Good luck to him somewhere else I guess. I think Koskinen may just not be that good, so the high end we saw for ~1 month is likely going to become a distant memory, especially if we keep grinding him down too like every other goalie. Goaltending is certainly a part of the problem, but so are many other things with this team. ANd until more things are fixed, unless we can find the next Hasek, we're gonna just keep going through goalies like we have been for the last half decade.

[Updated on: Thu, 07 February 2019 17:24]

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Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: OilFans on Thu, 07 February 2019 03:00
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 06:26
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 07 February 2019 09:08
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 09:34
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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: stemhovlichski on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:09
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:19
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:23
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:24
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:27
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 07 February 2019 12:35
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: overdue on Thu, 07 February 2019 14:57
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 15:21
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 07 February 2019 15:51
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:14
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:43
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:49
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 07 February 2019 17:23
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #54)	By: overdue on Thu, 07 February 2019 17:05

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