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https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/jack-eichel-says-there s-a-disconnect-with-sabres-about-recovery-from-injury/articl e_983facc4-b1ae-11eb-88ed-bf5513e21c41.html

Wow. That's a shot across the bow at minimum.

Things could get really ugly in Buffalo.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:27

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/jack-eichel-says-there s-a-disconnect-with-sabres-about-recovery-from-injury/articl e_983facc4-b1ae-11eb-88ed-bf5513e21c41.html

Wow. That's a shot across the bow at minimum.

Things could get really ugly in Buffalo.


The good news for Buffalo is that, at least on paper, it can't get worse! :)

Signed Nuge + 1st for Eichel? Wonder what Adams would accept :)

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Jim Matheson weighs in:

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Jack Eichel is a nice player. Is he a great player? No, not after 375 NHL games. So how much do Sabres get if they want to trade him at $10 mil cap hit? They will shoot for moon.


He's got 355 points in those 375 games, so he's pretty decent.

I'm not sure what his overall point here is though. Is it that Eichel isn't as good as he thinks he is? Is it that Eichel's not worth what he's being paid? Is it that Buffalo is going to ask for an unreasonably high amount for him? Or that they're not going to get what they ask, because of said cap hit?

Oh - and more:

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We keep beating drum for Eichel going to NYR, but does anybody believe they would trade D Adam Fox or winger Alexis Lafreniere to get him?


I have to say, if I'm the Rangers and I can get Eichel for Lafreniere, who has scored 12-9-21 in 56 games as a rookie? I'm making that trade as fast as I can.

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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 14:59

Jim Matheson weighs in:

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Jack Eichel is a nice player. Is he a great player? No, not after 375 NHL games. So how much do Sabres get if they want to trade him at $10 mil cap hit? They will shoot for moon.


He's got 355 points in those 375 games, so he's pretty decent.

I'm not sure what his overall point here is though. Is it that Eichel isn't as good as he thinks he is? Is it that Eichel's not worth what he's being paid? Is it that Buffalo is going to ask for an unreasonably high amount for him? Or that they're not going to get what they ask, because of said cap hit?

Oh - and more:

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Jim Matheson
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We keep beating drum for Eichel going to NYR, but does anybody believe they would trade D Adam Fox or winger Alexis Lafreniere to get him?


I have to say, if I'm the Rangers and I can get Eichel for Lafreniere, who has scored 12-9-21 in 56 games as a rookie? I'm making that trade as fast as I can.

Eichel's neck injury is a bit worrisome. But assuming he recovers, and Buffalo retains salary so it works for us, having the top 2 players from the 2015 draft would be a good thing.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 13:59



I have to say, if I'm the Rangers and I can get Eichel for Lafreniere, who has scored 12-9-21 in 56 games as a rookie? I'm making that trade as fast as I can.


I would not do this if I am the Rangers.

Lafreniere is cost controlled for two more years and then has 5 more RFA years after that. Captain Jack has 5 years left on his deal. And Eichel has just put question marks around his own health for the short term at the very least. Does he need surgery that he still hasn’t received?

Thornton and Stamkos also had underwhelming first years as an 18 year old. I’d hazard a guess that Lafreniere’s weak numbers are partly due to the fact that the Rangers are already a pretty decent team. Their goal differential is one of the best in league history for a team not making the playoffs. Zibanejad and Panarin got all the opportunities this year.

I just don’t think Lafreniere will be in the same category as a Yakupov, Hischier, or Hughes. Those guys were never the best player in their junior league up to their draft. Lafreniere had a 13 point lead on the next guy in his COVID shortened draft season. He was an 18 year old who dominated older players. I think he is in a different pedigree, and you have to roll the dice on him. Even if you are getting back a point per game player centre in Eichel.



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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 14:39

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 13:59



I have to say, if I'm the Rangers and I can get Eichel for Lafreniere, who has scored 12-9-21 in 56 games as a rookie? I'm making that trade as fast as I can.


I would not do this if I am the Rangers.

Lafreniere is cost controlled for two more years and then has 5 more RFA years after that. Captain Jack has 5 years left on his deal. And Eichel has just put question marks around his own health for the short term at the very least. Does he need surgery that he still hasn’t received?

Thornton and Stamkos also had underwhelming first years as an 18 year old. I’d hazard a guess that Lafreniere’s weak numbers are partly due to the fact that the Rangers are already a pretty decent team. Their goal differential is one of the best in league history for a team not making the playoffs. Zibanejad and Panarin got all the opportunities this year.

I just don’t think Lafreniere will be in the same category as a Yakupov, Hischier, or Hughes. Those guys were never the best player in their junior league up to their draft. Lafreniere had a 13 point lead on the next guy in his COVID shortened draft season. He was an 18 year old who dominated older players. I think he is in a different pedigree, and you have to roll the dice on him. Even if you are getting back a point per game player centre in Eichel.



Yeah I wouldn't be trading Lafrenierre as well, his upside is huge, and as you say his cap advantage is even more huge.

I think Eichel goes to LA for whatever Buffalo can squeeze out..



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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:39

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 13:59



I have to say, if I'm the Rangers and I can get Eichel for Lafreniere, who has scored 12-9-21 in 56 games as a rookie? I'm making that trade as fast as I can.


I would not do this if I am the Rangers.

Lafreniere is cost controlled for two more years and then has 5 more RFA years after that. Captain Jack has 5 years left on his deal. And Eichel has just put question marks around his own health for the short term at the very least. Does he need surgery that he still hasn’t received?

Thornton and Stamkos also had underwhelming first years as an 18 year old. I’d hazard a guess that Lafreniere’s weak numbers are partly due to the fact that the Rangers are already a pretty decent team. Their goal differential is one of the best in league history for a team not making the playoffs. Zibanejad and Panarin got all the opportunities this year.

I just don’t think Lafreniere will be in the same category as a Yakupov, Hischier, or Hughes. Those guys were never the best player in their junior league up to their draft. Lafreniere had a 13 point lead on the next guy in his COVID shortened draft season. He was an 18 year old who dominated older players. I think he is in a different pedigree, and you have to roll the dice on him. Even if you are getting back a point per game player centre in Eichel.



The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.

It would be interesting to know how much Joe Thornton played in his first year. He played only 55 games. Pat Burns healthy scratched him 27 times. Thornton himself felt that he was mishandled that season. He wasn't a big fan of Burns.

I don't think Stamkos' rookie season was as bad as you remember it. He scored 23-23-46 in 79 games as an 18-year old rookie. Not world beating, and nothing like his 95 point sophomore season, but still...not awful at all.

Lafreniere only got 13 minutes a game this year, so 3rd/4th line minutes and he got 1:17 per game powerplay time, so he's being used as a second unit guy (very similar to Kaapo Kakko - 14:21 and 1:19). Question is whether the Rangers think he's shown enough to think he can make a serious jump in the next couple of years. They've got a lot of first hand knowledge now. I do think it's interesting that Chris Kreider is getting the first unit push over those two guys.

(This is why I thought it would be better to see more of Bouchard this year - would be easier for us to make decisions if we better knew what we had).



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The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.




It was a COVID shortened year with much less practice time between games. I think that would make it a very tough year to adjust to as a rookie, and a tough year for the Rangers to get a good idea what they have. I just don't think your 18 year old season amounts to much useful info on how you are tracking, even if you are the controlling team. Draisaitl just straight up didn't belong in his rookie year, but look where he is now.

What you would like to see is the player getting stronger as the season goes on. Lafreniere did not get the benefit of having games 57-82 like other 18 year old 1st overalls coming in the league. He had a grand total of 1 point in his first 15 games, which would mean he got 20 points in his last 41 GP. He had 7 points in his last 10GP. It looked like he was progressing.




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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 20:55

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:43



The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.




It was a COVID shortened year with much less practice time between games. I think that would make it a very tough year to adjust to as a rookie, and a tough year for the Rangers to get a good idea what they have. I just don't think your 18 year old season amounts to much useful info on how you are tracking, even if you are the controlling team. Draisaitl just straight up didn't belong in his rookie year, but look where he is now.

What you would like to see is the player getting stronger as the season goes on. Lafreniere did not get the benefit of having games 57-82 like other 18 year old 1st overalls coming in the league. He had a grand total of 1 point in his first 15 games, which would mean he got 20 points in his last 41 GP. He had 7 points in his last 10GP. It looked like he was progressing.




Not to endorse a Lafreniere for Eichel trade, but from what I saw Ranger fans were pretty mad about his usage early on. Probably just typical fan stuff to a large degree, but the Rangers were already juggling lots of young guys, probably was hard to try to force feed ice time to another one. It's a lot easier for 1st overall picks when they get to just go out and have fun on a loser team with zero expectations like Eichel has been doing his whole career hehe. Eichel probably is the better player, but that whole 10M cap hit, injuries sure even things out!



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 21:08

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 20:55

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:43



The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.




It was a COVID shortened year with much less practice time between games. I think that would make it a very tough year to adjust to as a rookie, and a tough year for the Rangers to get a good idea what they have. I just don't think your 18 year old season amounts to much useful info on how you are tracking, even if you are the controlling team. Draisaitl just straight up didn't belong in his rookie year, but look where he is now.

What you would like to see is the player getting stronger as the season goes on. Lafreniere did not get the benefit of having games 57-82 like other 18 year old 1st overalls coming in the league. He had a grand total of 1 point in his first 15 games, which would mean he got 20 points in his last 41 GP. He had 7 points in his last 10GP. It looked like he was progressing.




Not to endorse a Lafreniere for Eichel trade, but from what I saw Ranger fans were pretty mad about his usage early on. Probably just typical fan stuff to a large degree, but the Rangers were already juggling lots of young guys, probably was hard to try to force feed ice time to another one. It's a lot easier for 1st overall picks when they get to just go out and have fun on a loser team with zero expectations like Eichel has been doing his whole career hehe. Eichel probably is the better player, but that whole 10M cap hit, injuries sure even things out!


I wonder if he's regretting signing the long deal now...5 more seasons under team control, and at a rate that makes him hard to fit on a lot of teams.

I just hope he stays east, because I think whoever gets him is going to absolutely fleece Adams and the Sabres.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 01:35

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 21:08

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 20:55

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:43



The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.




It was a COVID shortened year with much less practice time between games. I think that would make it a very tough year to adjust to as a rookie, and a tough year for the Rangers to get a good idea what they have. I just don't think your 18 year old season amounts to much useful info on how you are tracking, even if you are the controlling team. Draisaitl just straight up didn't belong in his rookie year, but look where he is now.

What you would like to see is the player getting stronger as the season goes on. Lafreniere did not get the benefit of having games 57-82 like other 18 year old 1st overalls coming in the league. He had a grand total of 1 point in his first 15 games, which would mean he got 20 points in his last 41 GP. He had 7 points in his last 10GP. It looked like he was progressing.




Not to endorse a Lafreniere for Eichel trade, but from what I saw Ranger fans were pretty mad about his usage early on. Probably just typical fan stuff to a large degree, but the Rangers were already juggling lots of young guys, probably was hard to try to force feed ice time to another one. It's a lot easier for 1st overall picks when they get to just go out and have fun on a loser team with zero expectations like Eichel has been doing his whole career hehe. Eichel probably is the better player, but that whole 10M cap hit, injuries sure even things out!


I wonder if he's regretting signing the long deal now...5 more seasons under team control, and at a rate that makes him hard to fit on a lot of teams.

I just hope he stays east, because I think whoever gets him is going to absolutely fleece Adams and the Sabres.


Then why not us? They can have like Neal, Kassian (gritensity and all), a few picks :)

Don't know if there would be enough minutes to go around between McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, and Eichel, but wow - what a top 6/9 THAT would be.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 04:59

Adam wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 01:35

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 21:08

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 20:55

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:43



The Rangers should have a pretty good idea what track they think Lafreniere can follow now though.




It was a COVID shortened year with much less practice time between games. I think that would make it a very tough year to adjust to as a rookie, and a tough year for the Rangers to get a good idea what they have. I just don't think your 18 year old season amounts to much useful info on how you are tracking, even if you are the controlling team. Draisaitl just straight up didn't belong in his rookie year, but look where he is now.

What you would like to see is the player getting stronger as the season goes on. Lafreniere did not get the benefit of having games 57-82 like other 18 year old 1st overalls coming in the league. He had a grand total of 1 point in his first 15 games, which would mean he got 20 points in his last 41 GP. He had 7 points in his last 10GP. It looked like he was progressing.




Not to endorse a Lafreniere for Eichel trade, but from what I saw Ranger fans were pretty mad about his usage early on. Probably just typical fan stuff to a large degree, but the Rangers were already juggling lots of young guys, probably was hard to try to force feed ice time to another one. It's a lot easier for 1st overall picks when they get to just go out and have fun on a loser team with zero expectations like Eichel has been doing his whole career hehe. Eichel probably is the better player, but that whole 10M cap hit, injuries sure even things out!


I wonder if he's regretting signing the long deal now...5 more seasons under team control, and at a rate that makes him hard to fit on a lot of teams.

I just hope he stays east, because I think whoever gets him is going to absolutely fleece Adams and the Sabres.


Then why not us? They can have like Neal, Kassian (gritensity and all), a few picks :)

Don't know if there would be enough minutes to go around between McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, and Eichel, but wow - what a top 6/9 THAT would be.



If you did go after Eichel this summer, you would have to think they would let Nuge walk so it may not be completely out of the realm of possibility. 6M off the books from Nuge + whatever roster player(s) you send back. That's plenty of cap space there. How about this:

Nuge walks as UFA (6M)
2022 1st round pick
Kassian (3.2M)
Broberg
Carter Savoie

Kassian has to be in there for additional salary going out, I would hate to trade Broberg right now but this might be where I would. This is a lot to give up, especially walking from Nuge. Would Buf do it?



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Eichel to LTIR, no longer Sabres Captain

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GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 09:22

Eichel to LTIR, no longer Sabres Captain

https://www.tsn.ca/jack-eichel-buffalo-sabres-captaincy-1.16 97091

I’ve heard they’re at an impasse. He won’t do the Sabre’s preferred surgery and they won’t let him get the other. I think he misses the whole season.



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There was a surgeon on the 31 thoughts podcast who was very much in favour for Jack’s choice of surgery, and laid out lots of medical literature behind the procedure. Pretty interesting to listen to.

There is a case to be made that the Sabres aren’t being open minded here.



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smyth260 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:36

There was a surgeon on the 31 thoughts podcast who was very much in favour for Jack’s choice of surgery, and laid out lots of medical literature behind the procedure. Pretty interesting to listen to.

There is a case to be made that the Sabres aren’t being open minded here.


What is Eichel's trade value now? Taking on a 10M contract for a guy you have no idea if he will ever play for you. Definitely won't right away, then you have to deal with the risk of the surgery.

Archibald and a 2nd?



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:38

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:36

There was a surgeon on the 31 thoughts podcast who was very much in favour for Jack’s choice of surgery, and laid out lots of medical literature behind the procedure. Pretty interesting to listen to.

There is a case to be made that the Sabres aren’t being open minded here.


What is Eichel's trade value now? Taking on a 10M contract for a guy you have no idea if he will ever play for you. Definitely won't right away, then you have to deal with the risk of the surgery.

Archibald and a 2nd?


Can we get them to retain some salary, and maybe swap goalies too?



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Adam wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:49

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:38

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:36

There was a surgeon on the 31 thoughts podcast who was very much in favour for Jack’s choice of surgery, and laid out lots of medical literature behind the procedure. Pretty interesting to listen to.

There is a case to be made that the Sabres aren’t being open minded here.


What is Eichel's trade value now? Taking on a 10M contract for a guy you have no idea if he will ever play for you. Definitely won't right away, then you have to deal with the risk of the surgery.

Archibald and a 2nd?


Can we get them to retain some salary, and maybe swap goalies too?


Maybe if we toss in a tighter shirt for Kevyn? This one doesn't look tight enough

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 11:16

Adam wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:49

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:38

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 10:36

There was a surgeon on the 31 thoughts podcast who was very much in favour for Jack’s choice of surgery, and laid out lots of medical literature behind the procedure. Pretty interesting to listen to.

There is a case to be made that the Sabres aren’t being open minded here.


What is Eichel's trade value now? Taking on a 10M contract for a guy you have no idea if he will ever play for you. Definitely won't right away, then you have to deal with the risk of the surgery.

Archibald and a 2nd?


Can we get them to retain some salary, and maybe swap goalies too?


Maybe if we toss in a tighter shirt for Kevyn? This one doesn't look tight enough

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 Re: Eichel Unhappy [message #792176 is a reply to message #792171 ]
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So...thoughts on whether he plays another game for the Sabres? Yea or nay?


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 Re: Eichel Unhappy [message #792202 is a reply to message #792176 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 23 September 2021 16:28

So...thoughts on whether he plays another game for the Sabres? Yea or nay?


It ain't looking good. You should do a poll - but I'm saying no.



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Eichel trending from unhappy to hopeful.

https://www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-jack-eichel-trade-1.170288 9

"TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger reports that ongoing discussions and additional access to Eichel’s medical file has helped teams with trade interest clearly see his situation. He adds that both the Sabres and Eichel are hopeful a deal can be worked out soon with one of the interested teams."

General Manager of the year to the sabres if they pull this off. No matter what, I believe the Sabres will still suck.




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GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 06 October 2021 07:34

Eichel trending from unhappy to hopeful.

https://www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-jack-eichel-trade-1.170288 9

"TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger reports that ongoing discussions and additional access to Eichel’s medical file has helped teams with trade interest clearly see his situation. He adds that both the Sabres and Eichel are hopeful a deal can be worked out soon with one of the interested teams."

General Manager of the year to the sabres if they pull this off. No matter what, I believe the Sabres will still suck.



If so, we'll see if his "I'm getting a mechanical disk replacement in my neck" surgery plan was just a ploy to force a trade, or if he actually is mental.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:40

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:27

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/jack-eichel-says-there s-a-disconnect-with-sabres-about-recovery-from-injury/articl e_983facc4-b1ae-11eb-88ed-bf5513e21c41.html

Wow. That's a shot across the bow at minimum.

Things could get really ugly in Buffalo.


The good news for Buffalo is that, at least on paper, it can't get worse! :)

Signed Nuge + 1st for Eichel? Wonder what Adams would accept :)


I'm a Nuge fan and would be all over that, if Buffalo retains $3 million of Eichel's salary. icon_lol



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:05

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:40

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:27

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/jack-eichel-says-there s-a-disconnect-with-sabres-about-recovery-from-injury/articl e_983facc4-b1ae-11eb-88ed-bf5513e21c41.html

Wow. That's a shot across the bow at minimum.

Things could get really ugly in Buffalo.


The good news for Buffalo is that, at least on paper, it can't get worse! :)

Signed Nuge + 1st for Eichel? Wonder what Adams would accept :)


I'm a Nuge fan and would be all over that, if Buffalo retains $3 million of Eichel's salary. icon_lol


Bet you could just flip Eichel immediately for a better return if Adams would bite on that :)

Of course our org would also be cursed for eternity for the disrespect to Nuge, signing and then turning around the trading him.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:16

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 15:05

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:40

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 May 2021 11:27

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/jack-eichel-says-there s-a-disconnect-with-sabres-about-recovery-from-injury/articl e_983facc4-b1ae-11eb-88ed-bf5513e21c41.html

Wow. That's a shot across the bow at minimum.

Things could get really ugly in Buffalo.


The good news for Buffalo is that, at least on paper, it can't get worse! :)

Signed Nuge + 1st for Eichel? Wonder what Adams would accept :)


I'm a Nuge fan and would be all over that, if Buffalo retains $3 million of Eichel's salary. icon_lol


Bet you could just flip Eichel immediately for a better return if Adams would bite on that :)

Of course our org would also be cursed for eternity for the disrespect to Nuge, signing and then turning around the trading him.


Nuge aside, Buffalo might be able to get a center who would play about as well as Eichel *for Buffalo* (the caveat), for $2 or 3 million less than what Eichel is costing Buffalo.



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Yesterday, Ristolainen and Reinhart both expressed they have no desire to be part of another Sabres rebuild.



I find these kinds of complains a bit more awkward. Part of the reason that Buffalo is in an infinite rebuild is because these guys didn't live up to expectations. Risto slammed into a wall with his development and never developed a defensive side to his game. Although, he has really worked hard on his Super Saiyan look:

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Reinhart might be breaking through a bit, but he's looks like another Nuge.


Leave the "I'm too good for this team!" stuff to the Eichel's and wait for your UFA date like every other 2nd tier player on crap teams :)



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 08:57

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
Yesterday, Ristolainen and Reinhart both expressed they have no desire to be part of another Sabres rebuild.



I find these kinds of complains a bit more awkward. Part of the reason that Buffalo is in an infinite rebuild is because these guys didn't live up to expectations. Risto slammed into a wall with his development and never developed a defensive side to his game. Although, he has really worked hard on his Super Saiyan look:

https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/headshots/current/168x168/8477499.jpg

Reinhart might be breaking through a bit, but he's looks like another Nuge.


Leave the "I'm too good for this team!" stuff to the Eichel's and wait for your UFA date like every other 2nd tier player on crap teams :)


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Definately can see the Flames jumping into this kettle to try and land Eichel.

I would guess that it would be something like this to get it close to being a done deal...

Gaudreau (UFA in 1 year & probably bolts right after), Wolf, Pelltier, 2022 - 1st rd pick, 2021 - 2nd rd pick

That is a lot, but probably what Buffalo would want form the Flames.

I don't think Sabres will retain any salary as it is for 5 more years on that Eichel contract....most teams, even teams that aren't too smart know not to do that in a cap world.



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Jakey wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 14:18

Definately can see the Flames jumping into this kettle to try and land Eichel.

I would guess that it would be something like this to get it close to being a done deal...

Gaudreau (UFA in 1 year & probably bolts right after), Wolf, Pelltier, 2022 - 1st rd pick, 2021 - 2nd rd pick

That is a lot, but probably what Buffalo would want form the Flames.

I don't think Sabres will retain any salary as it is for 5 more years on that Eichel contract....most teams, even teams that aren't too smart know not to do that in a cap world.


Seems like folks over on CPuck are wanting Chucky going the other way as the major piece to try to get Eichel.



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Jakey wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 11:18

Definately can see the Flames jumping into this kettle to try and land Eichel.

I would guess that it would be something like this to get it close to being a done deal...

Gaudreau (UFA in 1 year & probably bolts right after), Wolf, Pelltier, 2022 - 1st rd pick, 2021 - 2nd rd pick

That is a lot, but probably what Buffalo would want form the Flames.

I don't think Sabres will retain any salary as it is for 5 more years on that Eichel contract....most teams, even teams that aren't too smart know not to do that in a cap world.

What do the Flames have to offer though? I would assume the Sabres would want a package of picks and some players that can play now. If I am the Sabres, the guys I want from the Flames are Lindholm and Tkachuk so if you offer those 2 up, who's left to play with Eichel?



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 14:27

Jakey wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 11:18

Definately can see the Flames jumping into this kettle to try and land Eichel.

I would guess that it would be something like this to get it close to being a done deal...

Gaudreau (UFA in 1 year & probably bolts right after), Wolf, Pelltier, 2022 - 1st rd pick, 2021 - 2nd rd pick

That is a lot, but probably what Buffalo would want form the Flames.

I don't think Sabres will retain any salary as it is for 5 more years on that Eichel contract....most teams, even teams that aren't too smart know not to do that in a cap world.

What do the Flames have to offer though? I would assume the Sabres would want a package of picks and some players that can play now. If I am the Sabres, the guys I want from the Flames are Lindholm and Tkachuk so if you offer those 2 up, who's left to play with Eichel?

Never underestimate the incompetence of an inexperienced GM. There's no job training. Teams just give the role to former players and expect them to build a winner. I bet the Eichel return is no better than the Ryan O'Reilly return the Avs got. And I think they end up retaining salary.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 14:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 14:27

Jakey wrote on Tue, 11 May 2021 11:18

Definately can see the Flames jumping into this kettle to try and land Eichel.

I would guess that it would be something like this to get it close to being a done deal...

Gaudreau (UFA in 1 year & probably bolts right after), Wolf, Pelltier, 2022 - 1st rd pick, 2021 - 2nd rd pick

That is a lot, but probably what Buffalo would want form the Flames.

I don't think Sabres will retain any salary as it is for 5 more years on that Eichel contract....most teams, even teams that aren't too smart know not to do that in a cap world.

What do the Flames have to offer though? I would assume the Sabres would want a package of picks and some players that can play now. If I am the Sabres, the guys I want from the Flames are Lindholm and Tkachuk so if you offer those 2 up, who's left to play with Eichel?

Never underestimate the incompetence of an inexperienced GM. There's no job training. Teams just give the role to former players and expect them to build a winner. I bet the Eichel return is no better than the Ryan O'Reilly return the Avs got. And I think they end up retaining salary.


Kevyn Adams has basically zero experience, and the Sabres gutted their management team when they made him GM. Trading a superstar in a cap era is extremely challenging anyhow, but when you have your waterboy running your team, it puts you in an even more difficult situation to succeed in. They better start building bridges with Eichel, because if they need to trade him, they're likely to lose the deal badly.

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BUF GM Kevyn Adams is making a statement on Jack Eichel. Says Sabres want Eichel to be healthy, had no problem with a second opinion and there was constant communication. Says doctors agreed on a "conservative, rehad approach." (1/x)...
Elliotte Friedman

...

Adams backs their expertise, feeling Eichel could avoid surgery. Confirms that Eichel and his reps have considered a different option (cervical disk replacement), but team is not comfortable with it because there is not a history of NHL players coming back from it.


This continues to be a pretty crazy story - that sounds like Eichel's pretty badly injured, and doesn't believe resting up is going to fix things.



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BUF GM Kevyn Adams is making a statement on Jack Eichel. Says Sabres want Eichel to be healthy, had no problem with a second opinion and there was constant communication. Says doctors agreed on a "conservative, rehad approach." (1/x)...
Elliotte Friedman

...

Adams backs their expertise, feeling Eichel could avoid surgery. Confirms that Eichel and his reps have considered a different option (cervical disk replacement), but team is not comfortable with it because there is not a history of NHL players coming back from it.


This continues to be a pretty crazy story - that sounds like Eichel's pretty badly injured, and doesn't believe resting up is going to fix things.


Well, they've got Eichel unhappy to be on a terribly managed team, and conflicting opinions with the way his injury has been handled. With a $10 million contract and uncertainty in terms of his availability to play, effectiveness when he does, and prognosis going forward, how does any team touch him with a 10 ft pole unless a number of things are clarified?



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K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 11:41

Adam wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 09:49

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BUF GM Kevyn Adams is making a statement on Jack Eichel. Says Sabres want Eichel to be healthy, had no problem with a second opinion and there was constant communication. Says doctors agreed on a "conservative, rehad approach." (1/x)...
Elliotte Friedman

...

Adams backs their expertise, feeling Eichel could avoid surgery. Confirms that Eichel and his reps have considered a different option (cervical disk replacement), but team is not comfortable with it because there is not a history of NHL players coming back from it.


This continues to be a pretty crazy story - that sounds like Eichel's pretty badly injured, and doesn't believe resting up is going to fix things.


Well, they've got Eichel unhappy to be on a terribly managed team, and conflicting opinions with the way his injury has been handled. With a $10 million contract and uncertainty in terms of his availability to play, effectiveness when he does, and prognosis going forward, how does any team touch him with a 10 ft pole unless a number of things are clarified?



Interesting contrast with the Oilers and McDavid. Although think we were a bit clumsy with McDavid at the start with his knee, incorrectly diagnosing the issue. But the org huge back and let McDavid take a huge really unprecedented risk with hoping his tendon would reattach with rehab.

Sabres seem to be really against letting Eichel do what he thinks is best for himself. Where do you really go from there in a relationship between a team and player?



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 12:54

K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 11:41

Adam wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 09:49

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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC

BUF GM Kevyn Adams is making a statement on Jack Eichel. Says Sabres want Eichel to be healthy, had no problem with a second opinion and there was constant communication. Says doctors agreed on a "conservative, rehad approach." (1/x)...
Elliotte Friedman

...

Adams backs their expertise, feeling Eichel could avoid surgery. Confirms that Eichel and his reps have considered a different option (cervical disk replacement), but team is not comfortable with it because there is not a history of NHL players coming back from it.


This continues to be a pretty crazy story - that sounds like Eichel's pretty badly injured, and doesn't believe resting up is going to fix things.


Well, they've got Eichel unhappy to be on a terribly managed team, and conflicting opinions with the way his injury has been handled. With a $10 million contract and uncertainty in terms of his availability to play, effectiveness when he does, and prognosis going forward, how does any team touch him with a 10 ft pole unless a number of things are clarified?



Interesting contrast with the Oilers and McDavid. Although think we were a bit clumsy with McDavid at the start with his knee, incorrectly diagnosing the issue. But the org huge back and let McDavid take a huge really unprecedented risk with hoping his tendon would reattach with rehab.

Sabres seem to be really against letting Eichel do what he thinks is best for himself. Where do you really go from there in a relationship between a team and player?


That injury though...there's a good chance the Sabres and Eichel are stuck together for a bit.



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Just got some info from Friedman regarding the beef Eichel has with the Sabres.. Eichel wants to get a freaking disk REPLACEMENT in his neck!! WTHeck!
I don't blame the Sabres for resisting it, disk replacement (a mechanical, synthetic disk), especially in the neck is an extremely risky surgery, rarely done except as a last resort for people with chronic pain, usually over 50!! Almost unheard of for an elite pro athlete, in a CONTACT sport!!!

I think Eichel is freaking nuts, must be listening to some witch doctor, its almost the surgical procedure equivalent in to getting a knee replacement.. for your spine!
If he's this bad, and contemplating a disk replacement, his future is not looking very good.
I'd stay away from him like radioactive waste.
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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 12 May 2021 16:07

Just got some info from Friedman regarding the beef Eichel has with the Sabres.. Eichel wants to get a freaking disk REPLACEMENT in his neck!! WTHeck!
I don't blame the Sabres for resisting it, disk replacement (a mechanical, synthetic disk), especially in the neck is an extremely risky surgery, rarely done except as a last resort for people with chronic pain, usually over 50!! Almost unheard of for an elite pro athlete, in a CONTACT sport!!!

I think Eichel is freaking nuts, must be listening to some witch doctor.
If he's this bad, and contemplating a disk replacement, his future is not looking very good.
I'd stay away from him like radioactive waste.



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