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Been sitting today and thinking about the upcoming expansion draft. I find myself wondering what it would take to talk seattle into taking neal. Would samorukov and a pick do it? Maybe jones or bear? If we could dump neal on Seattle it would give a tonne of room to make a deal for a true number one goalie, or maybe a top pair d


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sinfulchimp306 wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 13:23

Been sitting today and thinking about the upcoming expansion draft. I find myself wondering what it would take to talk seattle into taking neal. Would samorukov and a pick do it? Maybe jones or bear? If we could dump neal on Seattle it would give a tonne of room to make a deal for a true number one goalie, or maybe a top pair d


$5m in cap space is not worth Samorukov by himself.. you'll soon have control of a top 4 D-man at elc level cap hit for a few years.. thats worth a lot more than getting rid of Neal's contract for 2 years.. IMHO.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 16:29

sinfulchimp306 wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 13:23

Been sitting today and thinking about the upcoming expansion draft. I find myself wondering what it would take to talk seattle into taking neal. Would samorukov and a pick do it? Maybe jones or bear? If we could dump neal on Seattle it would give a tonne of room to make a deal for a true number one goalie, or maybe a top pair d


$5m in cap space is not worth Samorukov by himself.. you'll soon have control of a top 4 D-man at elc level cap hit for a few years.. thats worth a lot more than getting rid of Neal's contract for 2 years.. IMHO.


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I hear his hips get super sore after games. Not like a bone or a muscle thing though, more like phantom pain that can’t be correlated to a specific injury but is definitely very real.


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 20:35

I hear his hips get super sore after games. Not like a bone or a muscle thing though, more like phantom pain that can’t be correlated to a specific injury but is definitely very real.


Wouldn't shock me. One game not too long ago, they showed him skating hard after the puck front on. He looked awkward and like it was taking a lot of effort. If he has bad hips, that would explain it.



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sinfulchimp306 wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 14:23

Been sitting today and thinking about the upcoming expansion draft. I find myself wondering what it would take to talk seattle into taking neal. Would samorukov and a pick do it? Maybe jones or bear? If we could dump neal on Seattle it would give a tonne of room to make a deal for a true number one goalie, or maybe a top pair d


That’s way too much. You’re giving up a draft pick or a second tier prospect to get them to take Neal. With what we will have available for them, it’s not like they’re going to pass up someone phenomenal to take him.



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All we need to do is remind Seattle that Vegas took Neil. And they want to repeat Vegas's winning formula.


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Adam wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 22:33

sinfulchimp306 wrote on Fri, 26 February 2021 14:23

Been sitting today and thinking about the upcoming expansion draft. I find myself wondering what it would take to talk seattle into taking neal. Would samorukov and a pick do it? Maybe jones or bear? If we could dump neal on Seattle it would give a tonne of room to make a deal for a true number one goalie, or maybe a top pair d


That’s way too much. You’re giving up a draft pick or a second tier prospect to get them to take Neal. With what we will have available for them, it’s not like they’re going to pass up someone phenomenal to take him.


With 11.5M of base salary left to pay him for 2 years, you really have to hope Seattle doesn't care about money. Lots of teams will be trying to unload overpaid bums to find a way to open cap space and Seattle is the team with the space to sell. Lots of those bums may have much less real salary vs cap hit and be more attractive, while Neal is just 5.75M/year salary and cap. Might be a bidding war.



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What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


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jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.

So teams are obligated to leave a specific number of players unprotected, with exemptions for some (like possibly Klefbom because of his injury) and specifics around the sort of players exposed as well. So you can’t just sign a bunch of euro league guys and leave them unprotected. Most teams look to have been planning for this by having a ton of contracts end this season. UFA’s can be protected but they’re still UFA’s if Seattle takes them. So they don’t have to sign there. Vegas took one or two UFA’s. At least one didn’t sign with the knights.



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If I am the Oilers, I am not offering Seattle anything. Vegas fleeced teams that way. I go 7-3-1. Pick your 7 best forwards, 3 best dmen and a goalie. All you are losing is 1 guy, don't make it more like some teams did.




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jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...



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Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.




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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 15:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.

With JP rising out of the ashes, they have to go to 7-3-1 now in my opinion. So they will have to make a decision on protecting Lagesson or Jones. With how Lagesson has played and granted it's a lot sample size, it makes me feel better that if they lose 1, there is another guy who can play on the team and do well.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 15:44

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 15:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.

With JP rising out of the ashes, they have to go to 7-3-1 now in my opinion. So they will have to make a decision on protecting Lagesson or Jones. With how Lagesson has played and granted it's a lot sample size, it makes me feel better that if they lose 1, there is another guy who can play on the team and do well.

It'll come down to offence, where I think Jones has an edge.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 15:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 11:53

Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 08:38

jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.


The thing is, Seattle gets to pick 29 guys, so they know that a few of them won't be on the NHL roster no matter what. They can probably take a couple larger risks in the hopes that they pay off. If you're looking at Lagesson or Larsson and you've already got a whole defence corps worth of Lagessons picked, it may make some sense to roll the dice. If he retires, then what are you really out?

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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 21:50

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jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.


The thing is, Seattle gets to pick 29 guys, so they know that a few of them won't be on the NHL roster no matter what. They can probably take a couple larger risks in the hopes that they pay off. If you're looking at Lagesson or Larsson and you've already got a whole defence corps worth of Lagessons picked, it may make some sense to roll the dice. If he retires, then what are you really out?

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jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.


The thing is, Seattle gets to pick 29 guys, so they know that a few of them won't be on the NHL roster no matter what. They can probably take a couple larger risks in the hopes that they pay off. If you're looking at Lagesson or Larsson and you've already got a whole defence corps worth of Lagessons picked, it may make some sense to roll the dice. If he retires, then what are you really out?

Either that or you talk the Oilers in to giving you something to take on one of their crap contracts.


If I am the Oilers, I don't protect Klefbom no matter what. Roll the dice Seattle passes on him if he happens to be eligible. If they take him, oh well. In all likelihood, I think best case next season is mostly lost for Klefbom. I bet due to Covid, he doesn't even see the specialist till mid April at the earliest probably more into summer, then assuming he gets the surgery and it works, it will be into 2022 before he plays. So you'd have a guy coming off major surgery who hasn't played a game in over 1.5 yrs having to come in 3/4 into the season. So he will be a disaster and his next season on that contract will be a waste.

My prediction, IF he gets the surgery and IF it works, by the time he gets the surgery and recovers, he won't play in 2022. I think he will be extremely cautious given how he was talking about nothing but LIFE stuff vs hockey when he was last interviewed. In reality, I think he will be done. I think he will see the specialist, they will decide on the surgery to help fix his problem so he can live better and relatively pain free but the doc will tell him that if he plays hockey, with all the banging and abuse a shoulder takes normally in a game, there is no guarantee he won't have the same problems again in a few years and that will be it.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 07:59

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 20:50

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 15:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 13:22

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jds308 wrote on Sat, 27 February 2021 13:08

What are people thinking about strategy for who to protect/not protect this year for expansion? What about UFA's, how does that work? If we don't re-sign Nuge prior to expansion do we have to protect him? I can't remember how that whole dynamic works? Might make sense to hold off on any "official" Nuge extension until after expansion.


Theoretically, they could have a behind-the-scenes deal with Nuge in place, but he doesn't sign it until after the expansion draft - negating the need to protect him. Still would expose the Oilers to risk I don't think they'd be willing to take...

Does that handshake deal survive the day he actually gets offer from other teams? if seattle beats us by 20% in either term or dollars you have to think he considers it pretty hard at least.


I think you'd have a few days where he would be still under contract. Only risk would be Seattle throwing money at him.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it though because assuming we can do the 3 defenceman route protecting Nurse, Bear and probably Jones then we can protect virtually all the forwards we would want to keep. There's a danger we lose Klefbom that way if we can't get an injury exemption for him, but there's a risk he's gone anyhow.



Is it really a concern they lose Klefbom? It's March, he hasn't had a surgery yet. I heard on the morning radio show there is pictures of him skating around on some outdoor ice in Sweden. So he hasn't even been able to come over to the US yet to meet the specialist. With a 6-9 month recovery time assuming the surgery makes it so he can actually play, I am guessing it's longer than 6 especially given his history. So 6 months puts him into September, 9 months December. That's if he got it today. It's looking likely that he will miss at least part of the season and every week that passes before it gets done, it will be more and more.

Seattle is trying to build a team. I wouldn't touch Klef if I was them. Best case he will miss part of this coming season, so you get him for just over 1 season then he is a UFA. Who knows if he will be able to play at his normal level. Worse case, you get a player who feels OK but then has to shut it down probably for good after a short time because there is no guarantee this surgery will fix the problem long term.

I agree that Klefbom is likely out of consideration for Seattle. If Jones is available I think they grab him but Kelfbom, with his injury history and age, is probably too big a question mark.


The thing is, Seattle gets to pick 29 guys, so they know that a few of them won't be on the NHL roster no matter what. They can probably take a couple larger risks in the hopes that they pay off. If you're looking at Lagesson or Larsson and you've already got a whole defence corps worth of Lagessons picked, it may make some sense to roll the dice. If he retires, then what are you really out?

Either that or you talk the Oilers in to giving you something to take on one of their crap contracts.


If I am the Oilers, I don't protect Klefbom no matter what. Roll the dice Seattle passes on him if he happens to be eligible. If they take him, oh well. In all likelihood, I think best case next season is mostly lost for Klefbom. I bet due to Covid, he doesn't even see the specialist till mid April at the earliest probably more into summer, then assuming he gets the surgery and it works, it will be into 2022 before he plays. So you'd have a guy coming off major surgery who hasn't played a game in over 1.5 yrs having to come in 3/4 into the season. So he will be a disaster and his next season on that contract will be a waste.

My prediction, IF he gets the surgery and IF it works, by the time he gets the surgery and recovers, he won't play in 2022. I think he will be extremely cautious given how he was talking about nothing but LIFE stuff vs hockey when he was last interviewed. In reality, I think he will be done. I think he will see the specialist, they will decide on the surgery to help fix his problem so he can live better and relatively pain free but the doc will tell him that if he plays hockey, with all the banging and abuse a shoulder takes normally in a game, there is no guarantee he won't have the same problems again in a few years and that will be it.


The other factor is whether Klefboms contract is fully insured. If not, Seattle would be taking him and be potentially paying a portion of his contract that isn't covered by insurance. Why would a new expansion team want to pay a player (even 20%) that won't be on their roster for at least another season? Especially with the unknown in terms of revenue (new TV deals, fans returning to the stands, cap stagnation, etc.).



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I'm positive Klefbom won't even require protection. I know the NHL usually screws over Edmonton but he'll have missed a full season, with his full recovery very uncertain. He fits the definition of a player whose career is in doubt due to injury. The problem isn't that Edmonton will have to decide if they want to protect him, but that his career is actually in doubt due to injury and we may never get him back.


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 09:14

I'm positive Klefbom won't even require protection. I know the NHL usually screws over Edmonton but he'll have missed a full season, with his full recovery very uncertain. He fits the definition of a player whose career is in doubt due to injury. The problem isn't that Edmonton will have to decide if they want to protect him, but that his career is actually in doubt due to injury and we may never get him back.

I hope you are right. I think it would be an absolute joke. This isn't some BS equipment rash problem for a guy close to retirement, we are talking about a 27 yr old in the prime of his life with potentially a life altering injury.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 10:20

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 09:14

I'm positive Klefbom won't even require protection. I know the NHL usually screws over Edmonton but he'll have missed a full season, with his full recovery very uncertain. He fits the definition of a player whose career is in doubt due to injury. The problem isn't that Edmonton will have to decide if they want to protect him, but that his career is actually in doubt due to injury and we may never get him back.

I hope you are right. I think it would be an absolute joke. This isn't some BS equipment rash problem for a guy close to retirement, we are talking about a 27 yr old in the prime of his life with potentially a life altering injury.

But it's the NHL so anything goes really.


I was certain we wouldn’t of had to send Calgary a 3rd to satisfy the clause in the Neal-Lucic trade too though...



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 10:29

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 10:20

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 09:14

I'm positive Klefbom won't even require protection. I know the NHL usually screws over Edmonton but he'll have missed a full season, with his full recovery very uncertain. He fits the definition of a player whose career is in doubt due to injury. The problem isn't that Edmonton will have to decide if they want to protect him, but that his career is actually in doubt due to injury and we may never get him back.

I hope you are right. I think it would be an absolute joke. This isn't some BS equipment rash problem for a guy close to retirement, we are talking about a 27 yr old in the prime of his life with potentially a life altering injury.

But it's the NHL so anything goes really.


I was certain we wouldn’t of had to send Calgary a 3rd to satisfy the clause in the Neal-Lucic trade too though...

Exactly. You just never know with this league.



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 10:29

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 10:20

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 09:14

I'm positive Klefbom won't even require protection. I know the NHL usually screws over Edmonton but he'll have missed a full season, with his full recovery very uncertain. He fits the definition of a player whose career is in doubt due to injury. The problem isn't that Edmonton will have to decide if they want to protect him, but that his career is actually in doubt due to injury and we may never get him back.

I hope you are right. I think it would be an absolute joke. This isn't some BS equipment rash problem for a guy close to retirement, we are talking about a 27 yr old in the prime of his life with potentially a life altering injury.

But it's the NHL so anything goes really.


I was certain we wouldn’t of had to send Calgary a 3rd to satisfy the clause in the Neal-Lucic trade too though...

It's hardly fair since Calgary got an elite scorer, and legendary leader, like Lucic. Did you know he has more goals than Mackinnon!



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In regards to Klefbom:

From CapFriendly:
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Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.


It doesn't say playoff games count, but why wouldn't they, right? Oilers would need to make the playoffs to get Klef to the minimum 60-games mark. That would give him the 56-regular season games plus minimum four playoff games missed consecutively.

But it sounds like the exemption policy is on a case by case basis, so look for the league to screw the Oilers again.



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In regards to Klefbom:

From CapFriendly:
Injured Players
Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.


It doesn't say playoff games count, but why wouldn't they, right? Oilers would need to make the playoffs to get Klef to the minimum 60-games mark. That would give him the 56-regular season games plus minimum four playoff games missed consecutively.

But it sounds like the exemption policy is on a case by case basis, so look for the league to screw the Oilers again.

I would hope that the league would not penalize the Oilers for there only being 56 games this season. If there was a full 82, Klefbom was missing the full 82.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 13:51

OilPeg wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 13:48

In regards to Klefbom:

From CapFriendly:
Injured Players
Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.


It doesn't say playoff games count, but why wouldn't they, right? Oilers would need to make the playoffs to get Klef to the minimum 60-games mark. That would give him the 56-regular season games plus minimum four playoff games missed consecutively.

But it sounds like the exemption policy is on a case by case basis, so look for the league to screw the Oilers again.

I would hope that the league would not penalize the Oilers for there only being 56 games this season. If there was a full 82, Klefbom was missing the full 82.


Think it was already confirmed the games are prorated this year. Klef meets that criteria. All that is left is coordinating a narrative to get through the draft where his future looks dire. He can have a miracle breakthrough near the end of the summer.

Knowing how our team likes getting screwed over though, we will probably volunteer extreme optimism about klefs return and throw a huge Klef is coming back party in May. Maybe a TV special in June about what he did to get what is expected to be a 100% recovery for next season.

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 14:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 13:51

OilPeg wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 13:48

In regards to Klefbom:

From CapFriendly:
Injured Players
Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.


It doesn't say playoff games count, but why wouldn't they, right? Oilers would need to make the playoffs to get Klef to the minimum 60-games mark. That would give him the 56-regular season games plus minimum four playoff games missed consecutively.

But it sounds like the exemption policy is on a case by case basis, so look for the league to screw the Oilers again.

I would hope that the league would not penalize the Oilers for there only being 56 games this season. If there was a full 82, Klefbom was missing the full 82.


Think it was already confirmed the games are prorated this year. Klef meets that criteria. All that is left is coordinating a narrative to get through the draft where his future looks dire. He can have a miracle breakthrough near the end of the summer.

Knowing how our team likes getting screwed over though, we will probably volunteer extreme optimism about klefs return and throw a huge Klef is coming back party in May. Maybe a TV special in June about what he did to get what is expected to be a 100% recovery for next season.

I didn't know the first part, that's good news then. One hurdle down.

The second part is hilarious and, unfortunately, believable.



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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:47

If Buffalo offers Eichel and Skinner for expansion draft considerations, does Seattle do it?


Eichel for sure. Maybe not on Skinner though.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:38

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:47

If Buffalo offers Eichel and Skinner for expansion draft considerations, does Seattle do it?


Eichel for sure. Maybe not on Skinner though.



They have to take them both, thats the point.



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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:41

mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:38

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:47

If Buffalo offers Eichel and Skinner for expansion draft considerations, does Seattle do it?


Eichel for sure. Maybe not on Skinner though.



They have to take them both, thats the point.



Oooohhh... I thought you meant leave both unprotected, and I wasn't sure why Buffalo would do that with Eichel.

I mean, probably they'd have to consider that pretty strongly. Eichel's a pretty strong building block for an expansion team to start with.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:53

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:41

mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:38

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:47

If Buffalo offers Eichel and Skinner for expansion draft considerations, does Seattle do it?


Eichel for sure. Maybe not on Skinner though.



They have to take them both, thats the point.



Oooohhh... I thought you meant leave both unprotected, and I wasn't sure why Buffalo would do that with Eichel.

I mean, probably they'd have to consider that pretty strongly. Eichel's a pretty strong building block for an expansion team to start with.


Good lord, is that Skinner contract the worst in the league? I guess he could bounce back, but man that is a bad contract.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 13:53

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:41

mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 12:38

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 19 March 2021 11:47

If Buffalo offers Eichel and Skinner for expansion draft considerations, does Seattle do it?


Eichel for sure. Maybe not on Skinner though.



They have to take them both, thats the point.



Oooohhh... I thought you meant leave both unprotected, and I wasn't sure why Buffalo would do that with Eichel.

I mean, probably they'd have to consider that pretty strongly. Eichel's a pretty strong building block for an expansion team to start with.

They'd get far more in a trade for Eichel than simply ridding themselves of Skinner. I could see Seattle taking Skinner with a 1st round pick as a sweetener. Problem is that Skinner has a full NMC, so he can't be exposed without permission. Also, Buffalo should not be giving away 1st round picks right now, not for a few years anyway.



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