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Great effort tonight, nice to see smith battle he deserved that shutout.


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sinfulchimp306 wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 19:32

Great effort tonight, nice to see smith battle he deserved that shutout.


I my books he's got two games, Two (2) shutouts.. shots on goal by your own D-men don't count!



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At least 2-3 of those simple shots on goal would have found a way to sneak through Koskinen tonight. Smith was on point tonight. He gobbled up everything.

Not a huge Smith fan, but my confidence in him tonight was high.



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g2k wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:32

At least 2-3 of those simple shots on goal would have found a way to sneak through Koskinen tonight. Smith was on point tonight. He gobbled up everything.

Not a huge Smith fan, but my confidence in him tonight was high.


I think Montreal's hot start was a bubble. I don't think they're that good a team. Not a lot of forwards there that scare me.

There's a lot of room to make some real noise in the North Division. There's one miserable team and several who are only meh...



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g2k wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 19:32

At least 2-3 of those simple shots on goal would have found a way to sneak through Koskinen tonight. Smith was on point tonight. He gobbled up everything.

Not a huge Smith fan, but my confidence in him tonight was high.



Thought the same thing, Smith is the new No.1 Goalie, ride this horse Tippet!



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Pretty good effort. Good job by Smith. He was pretty “sticky” tonight, not much ch bouncing out.

Almost criminal for McDavid to leave without a point - he can create so much out of so little. One of the most exciting players to watch in the history of the NHL.

And whoever is counting shots in Montreal needs training and/or glasses. Those shot totals were hilarious after the 1st.



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Mike wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:02


Almost criminal for McDavid to leave without a point - he can create so much out of so little. One of the most exciting players to watch in the history of the NHL.



Chiasson needs to start capitalizing on open nets when he's down low during the PP....



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:07

Mike wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:02


Almost criminal for McDavid to leave without a point - he can create so much out of so little. One of the most exciting players to watch in the history of the NHL.



Chiasson needs to start capitalizing on open nets when he's down low during the PP....


Or, really, he should cede his spot on the 4RW to Nygard for some speed on that line while Milan Neal, Yams and, when he’s back, young Yessa take that spot on the PP



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Mike wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 21:02

Pretty good effort. Good job by Smith. He was pretty “sticky” tonight, not much ch bouncing out.

Almost criminal for McDavid to leave without a point - he can create so much out of so little. One of the most exciting players to watch in the history of the NHL.

And whoever is counting shots in Montreal needs training and/or glasses. Those shot totals were hilarious after the 1st.


McD did get a point. He actually had 2 until the NHL took away the assists from the Nurse goal.



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Wasn't expecting that one! Had to work late tonight, so watched the game with the sound off, and it felt like the most complete game of the year. Got some luck, but generally played well. Kept the shooting lanes clear and let Smith do his thing.


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If Smith can play that calm 9 starts outta 10, he gives this team a great chance to win. Happy 40th Smitty!!

The haters will say he’s played Ottawa and then the Canadiens on the second of a back to back. But he’s looked rested (ha!) and dialed in.

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Mike Smith had maybe 2 bad games in the entire calendar year of 2020 but the fact that one was Game 1 of the play-in, it’s all everyone thinks about him. You guys should read some of the stuff you wrote about Smith even up until a few days ago. Meanwhile Koskinen doesn’t play much better the rest of series and it’s like oh well. The leash he has compared to Smith is unreal.

It’s just 2 games in and Smith obviously won’t be able to maintain these kind of numbers but he’s a good goalie and everyone makes fun of the whole locker room guy thing. It’s just odd seeing much smarter hockey people than myself have such a short memory.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 21:46

Mike Smith had maybe 2 bad games in the entire calendar year of 2020 but the fact that one was Game 1 of the play-in, it’s all everyone thinks about him. You guys should read some of the stuff you wrote about Smith even up until a few days ago. Meanwhile Koskinen doesn’t play much better the rest of series and it’s like oh well. The leash he has compared to Smith is unreal.

It’s just 2 games in and Smith obviously won’t be able to maintain these kind of numbers but he’s a good goalie and everyone makes fun of the whole locker room guy thing. It’s just odd seeing much smarter hockey people than myself have such a short memory.



My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.

I think the age thing is played up a bit harshly. He is what he is. He isn’t going to be a multi year stop gap for the team, but for this season, I think I said it in his other starts thread that he could be exactly what this current version of the Oilers needs. And let’s face it, Koskinen isn’t a multi year savior either.



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My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.


Oh that wasn’t directed at you at all, I remember your comment the other day and was glad it was posted because I recall seeing posts in a sarcastic way of what Mike Smith brings as a 38 year old goalie.

The goalie tandem was very solid last year but we think of 4 games played in 6 days, 4 months after the stoppage.




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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:05

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:51


My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.


Oh that wasn’t directed at you at all, I remember your comment the other day and was glad it was posted because I recall seeing posts in a sarcastic way of what Mike Smith brings as a 38 year old goalie.

The goalie tandem was very solid last year but we think of 4 games played in 6 days, 4 months after the stoppage.




Oh, sorry! I had double the wine I had been drinking during games tonight as the wife wanted a glass with supper, so I indulged as well haha. Excuse my thinking it was sent my way.

You’re spot on. They performed well as a tandem last year with the plan Tipp and Co had for their starts. And I think we’ll see that again. The rest will help them both and Smith’s contributions as a motivator will continue to help those in front of him.

I know my best friend Adam isn’t a big fan, and Indo see his reasoning. But Smith has been a breath of fresh air for this team and you can’t discount the effect he has on the room. Well, you can, I guess. But you’re wrong if you do icon_biggrin

It’s 2 games, but I’m glad to see Smith back, he was pretty well on his game this time last season too. Here’s hoping it’s not a flash in the pan and he continues to play calm and consistent.

Ps. It probably helps having an actual defense in front of him and not Russell starfishing



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Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 21:18

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:05

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:51


My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.


Oh that wasn’t directed at you at all, I remember your comment the other day and was glad it was posted because I recall seeing posts in a sarcastic way of what Mike Smith brings as a 38 year old goalie.

The goalie tandem was very solid last year but we think of 4 games played in 6 days, 4 months after the stoppage.




Oh, sorry! I had double the wine I had been drinking during games tonight as the wife wanted a glass with supper, so I indulged as well haha. Excuse my thinking it was sent my way.

You’re spot on. They performed well as a tandem last year with the plan Tipp and Co had for their starts. And I think we’ll see that again. The rest will help them both and Smith’s contributions as a motivator will continue to help those in front of him.

I know my best friend Adam isn’t a big fan, and Indo see his reasoning. But Smith has been a breath of fresh air for this team and you can’t discount the effect he has on the room. Well, you can, I guess. But you’re wrong if you do icon_biggrin

It’s 2 games, but I’m glad to see Smith back, he was pretty well on his game this time last season too. Here’s hoping it’s not a flash in the pan and he continues to play calm and consistent.

Ps. It probably helps having an actual defense in front of him and not Russell starfishing


I'm happy for Smith. Nice of him to get another win, and a shutout to boot.

That said, just as I don't think Darnell Nurse is going to maintain his goal scoring pace, or that Jujhar Khaira's hot streak has shown that he's finally figured it out and is going to be a consistent contributor from here on out, I don't think we can expect Mike Smith to continue allowing 0-1 goals per game.

It isn't his one extremely bad playoff game against Chicago that I hold against him - although that was atrocious. His save percentage was .902 last year. It was .898 the year before. Those are not small sample sizes - that's over 79 appearances. He started 20 games in the 2020 portion of last season including that playoff game. In those games he was below .900 in eight of them and right on .900 twice more. We won five of those ten games despite his poor stats, so we outscored our problem half of the time. That's probably one of the reasons people don't remember him as bad as he was.

The first half of last season was even worse. 20 starts, 11 games under .900 and one more at .900. The big difference was that we didn't outscore the problem in that part of the season at all...we were 0-12 in when he was at or below .900.

It's not that I'm being mean to Mike Smith - it's just where he's at in his career. He's likely to have more bad games than good. We have a pretty dynamic team, so maybe we'll win sometimes even when he's bad, but we can't count on it, and going in to the playoffs thinking he can win you any rounds, never mind four rounds? That's just fooling yourself, no matter how well he played tonight.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:12

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 21:18

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:05

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:51


My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.


Oh that wasn’t directed at you at all, I remember your comment the other day and was glad it was posted because I recall seeing posts in a sarcastic way of what Mike Smith brings as a 38 year old goalie.

The goalie tandem was very solid last year but we think of 4 games played in 6 days, 4 months after the stoppage.




Oh, sorry! I had double the wine I had been drinking during games tonight as the wife wanted a glass with supper, so I indulged as well haha. Excuse my thinking it was sent my way.

You’re spot on. They performed well as a tandem last year with the plan Tipp and Co had for their starts. And I think we’ll see that again. The rest will help them both and Smith’s contributions as a motivator will continue to help those in front of him.

I know my best friend Adam isn’t a big fan, and Indo see his reasoning. But Smith has been a breath of fresh air for this team and you can’t discount the effect he has on the room. Well, you can, I guess. But you’re wrong if you do icon_biggrin

It’s 2 games, but I’m glad to see Smith back, he was pretty well on his game this time last season too. Here’s hoping it’s not a flash in the pan and he continues to play calm and consistent.

Ps. It probably helps having an actual defense in front of him and not Russell starfishing


I'm happy for Smith. Nice of him to get another win, and a shutout to boot.

That said, just as I don't think Darnell Nurse is going to maintain his goal scoring pace, or that Jujhar Khaira's hot streak has shown that he's finally figured it out and is going to be a consistent contributor from here on out, I don't think we can expect Mike Smith to continue allowing 0-1 goals per game.

It isn't his one extremely bad playoff game against Chicago that I hold against him - although that was atrocious. His save percentage was .902 last year. It was .898 the year before. Those are not small sample sizes - that's over 79 appearances. He started 20 games in the 2020 portion of last season including that playoff game. In those games he was below .900 in eight of them and right on .900 twice more. We won five of those ten games despite his poor stats, so we outscored our problem half of the time. That's probably one of the reasons people don't remember him as bad as he was.

The first half of last season was even worse. 20 starts, 11 games under .900 and one more at .900. The big difference was that we didn't outscore the problem in that part of the season at all...we were 0-12 in when he was at or below .900.

It's not that I'm being mean to Mike Smith - it's just where he's at in his career. He's likely to have more bad games than good. We have a pretty dynamic team, so maybe we'll win sometimes even when he's bad, but we can't count on it, and going in to the playoffs thinking he can win you any rounds, never mind four rounds? That's just fooling yourself, no matter how well he played tonight.


Can certainly say though that this is out of the ordinary. This is what good teams get. Top guys are off or just unlucky, and other guys put the puck in the net for wins. This is the situation that continuously helps our team be no better than hovering around .500 or worse.

Now fingers crossed McDrai blow up for a few games and we put a little more space between us and .500.

Montreal appears to still be a very streaky team.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:12

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 21:18

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:05

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:51


My comments about him being what the room needs, is not me making fun of the locker room thing. I legitimately view that as a huge add from him and I truly think he’s the a in the tandem.


Oh that wasn’t directed at you at all, I remember your comment the other day and was glad it was posted because I recall seeing posts in a sarcastic way of what Mike Smith brings as a 38 year old goalie.

The goalie tandem was very solid last year but we think of 4 games played in 6 days, 4 months after the stoppage.




Oh, sorry! I had double the wine I had been drinking during games tonight as the wife wanted a glass with supper, so I indulged as well haha. Excuse my thinking it was sent my way.

You’re spot on. They performed well as a tandem last year with the plan Tipp and Co had for their starts. And I think we’ll see that again. The rest will help them both and Smith’s contributions as a motivator will continue to help those in front of him.

I know my best friend Adam isn’t a big fan, and Indo see his reasoning. But Smith has been a breath of fresh air for this team and you can’t discount the effect he has on the room. Well, you can, I guess. But you’re wrong if you do icon_biggrin

It’s 2 games, but I’m glad to see Smith back, he was pretty well on his game this time last season too. Here’s hoping it’s not a flash in the pan and he continues to play calm and consistent.

Ps. It probably helps having an actual defense in front of him and not Russell starfishing


I'm happy for Smith. Nice of him to get another win, and a shutout to boot.

That said, just as I don't think Darnell Nurse is going to maintain his goal scoring pace, or that Jujhar Khaira's hot streak has shown that he's finally figured it out and is going to be a consistent contributor from here on out, I don't think we can expect Mike Smith to continue allowing 0-1 goals per game.

It isn't his one extremely bad playoff game against Chicago that I hold against him - although that was atrocious. His save percentage was .902 last year. It was .898 the year before. Those are not small sample sizes - that's over 79 appearances. He started 20 games in the 2020 portion of last season including that playoff game. In those games he was below .900 in eight of them and right on .900 twice more. We won five of those ten games despite his poor stats, so we outscored our problem half of the time. That's probably one of the reasons people don't remember him as bad as he was.

The first half of last season was even worse. 20 starts, 11 games under .900 and one more at .900. The big difference was that we didn't outscore the problem in that part of the season at all...we were 0-12 in when he was at or below .900.

It's not that I'm being mean to Mike Smith - it's just where he's at in his career. He's likely to have more bad games than good. We have a pretty dynamic team, so maybe we'll win sometimes even when he's bad, but we can't count on it, and going in to the playoffs thinking he can win you any rounds, never mind four rounds? That's just fooling yourself, no matter how well he played tonight.

Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.



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Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.


The answer is... it won’t really matter Adam. You’re danged if you do and danged if you don’t.

Ps. I can’t wait for Puljujarvi and Kassian to come back so Chiasson can get punted to the taxi squad again



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Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:40

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.


The answer is... it won’t really matter Adam. You’re danged if you do and danged if you don’t.

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Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.


If you want them to be truly great, you definitely have to point out the misses :)



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20


I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.


If you want them to be truly great, you definitely have to point out the misses :)


Haha - forgot to comment on this last part. I don't think kids' hockey has anything to do with the Oilers and I think your expectations should be wildly different.



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.


If you want them to be truly great, you definitely have to point out the misses :)


If I employ the Adam way of thinking which is beat down a player for past bad deeds, I could either have 2 sons that despise me or future NHL superstars.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:40

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.


If you want them to be truly great, you definitely have to point out the misses :)


If I employ the Adam way of thinking which is beat down a player for past bad deeds, I could either have 2 sons that despise me or future NHL superstars.


The problem for so many parents on the way to turning their kids into doctors and dentists and lawyers :) At some point you likely will need to make the call and pick 1 kid to focus all your energy on.

haha, ok, starting to get dark maybe. Maybe just letting kids have fun is actually the way to go :P



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 13:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:40

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.


If you want them to be truly great, you definitely have to point out the misses :)


If I employ the Adam way of thinking which is beat down a player for past bad deeds, I could either have 2 sons that despise me or future NHL superstars.


The problem for so many parents on the way to turning their kids into doctors and dentists and lawyers :) At some point you likely will need to make the call and pick 1 kid to focus all your energy on.

haha, ok, starting to get dark maybe. Maybe just letting kids have fun is actually the way to go :P

While I am extremely competitive, I think sports should be fun especially for kids so I try to keep the criticism of their game to a minimum. The primary focus for any comments on their game being on things they can control like their effort. So making sure to try their best in whatever they do. I think that is a good habit to have for any person.

I try to avoid beating them down about the mistakes they make, try to avoid bringing up past mistakes and point out how it's a pattern or who they are as a player.

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I think a professional team has a thicker skin than some old guys on a message board's comments can get through. What's wrong in taking an analytical picture of the teams weaknesses and discussing it? There's no sky falling in what Adam said. Just that Smith is terrible and never going to stop another puck ;)

When it comes to kids, I think it's different for each kid. Some kids feel the need to be challenged. Some have a drive to be the best and want to know what they're doing incorrect (Not "you missed the net 3 times" but "instead of sliding to the side of the post on this attempt, push into the front of the net in case there's a rebound")

I have two young daughters that are wildly different. Both in dance, and one wants the constant coaching. She wants the constant correction because she wants to be the best and has fun getting better. The other wants to be in the class but doesn't care if her toes aren't right, or if she's not stretching far enough. Both are ok.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?


Nope. Enjoy the wins. I did. I said as much.

But if you're analyzing the team, you need to be realistic about where the holes are. And if someone wants to point to a single game or stretch and think it's changed who Mike Smith is, or who Jujhar Khaira is, then they're fooling themselves.

As I said, someone called out earlier takes on Mike Smith on the basis that he had a shutout last night. As someone who made those takes, I defended the stance. I'm sorry if you think I should only have pom poms (unless crapping on young players who haven't developed optimally).



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Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 13:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!




I was responding specifically to someone asking why people have been negative on Smith and suggesting that it is based only on the fact that he had one really bad game in the playoffs - and pointing out that that isn't accurate.

I would appreciate if you could let me know just the right balance of realism versus sunshine and roses is appropriate. It would really help me out.

All good man. If me being happy my team won a game and giving a hat tip to the guys that helped make that happen in that game means I am sunshine and rainbows, then I guess that's what it is. Sport is supposed to be fun and enjoyable so I just never understood the point of focusing on the negative and basically waiting for something bad to happen. For some people that is their thing I guess. You call it realism so that means as a fan, we can't just enjoy success, we have to be sitting waiting for something bad to happen to be real?


Nope. Enjoy the wins. I did. I said as much.

But if you're analyzing the team, you need to be realistic about where the holes are. And if someone wants to point to a single game or stretch and think it's changed who Mike Smith is, or who Jujhar Khaira is, then they're fooling themselves.

As I said, someone called out earlier takes on Mike Smith on the basis that he had a shutout last night. As someone who made those takes, I defended the stance. I'm sorry if you think I should only have pom poms (unless crapping on young players who haven't developed optimally).


Let’s just enjoy Smith like a finely aged scotch, or as we were discussing earlier, a bottle of wine. Like the bottle(s) of burrowing owl I have in my wine rack, they won’t be around long but once I pop those corks I will enjoy the heck out of them.

Speaking of, picked up a bottle of Beringer Knights Valley and wah-wah-wee-woo, shes a beaut.



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[quote title=RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 12:20]
Adam wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 11:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 08:21


Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!





I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.

This analogy is just the worst.

Comparing how a parent reacts to children in minor hockey to hockey fans viewing the best of the best millionaire hockey players in the world? Parent/offspring and fans/NHL. 🙄.

Hilarious.



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g2k wrote

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Thanks Adam. We can always count on you to come in here and remind us how lousy some players can be at times. You even went into detail about Smith's stats after he posts a shutout because none of us are smart enough to know that he can't sustain a .985% .

Even gave us bonus material about Nurse not being able to sustain his what calculates out to be a 31 goal pace over 82 game season. Great stuff!!

I got 2 young kids in hockey. So next season when they have games and when one of them scores a goal, is it OK after the game to just slap them on the back and say "nice goal" or should I say "nice goal but you missed the net 3 times plus there was the 2 last game you missed and the 4 the game before". I wouldn't want to be too sunshine and rainbows after all.

This analogy is just the worst.

Comparing how a parent reacts to children in minor hockey to hockey fans viewing the best of the best millionaire hockey players in the world? Parent/offspring and fans/NHL. 🙄.

Hilarious.



You know, whenever I watch pro sports, the thing I think is most important is that they're all just enjoying themselves out there. It's good that they're able to get a little exercise and maybe make some lifelong friends! Sometimes I wonder why we even bother keeping score. Are we teaching our pro athletes the right things with that?



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 20:46

Mike Smith had maybe 2 bad games in the entire calendar year of 2020 but the fact that one was Game 1 of the play-in, it’s all everyone thinks about him. You guys should read some of the stuff you wrote about Smith even up until a few days ago. Meanwhile Koskinen doesn’t play much better the rest of series and it’s like oh well. The leash he has compared to Smith is unreal.

It’s just 2 games in and Smith obviously won’t be able to maintain these kind of numbers but he’s a good goalie and everyone makes fun of the whole locker room guy thing. It’s just odd seeing much smarter hockey people than myself have such a short memory.



You're inspiring me to start an early draft of a post to bash Smith when he finally has a bad game! :)

Kidding aside, great stuff by Smith. Double shutout if not for Larsson being such a sniper. Exactly what this team needed right now. Hope it lasts.




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Competent goaltending. Crisp passing particularly on zone exits and the neutral zone for most of the game. Zero big errors that I saw. The Oilers beat a pretty good team.


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So Pulju test was inconclusive (pizza), and then negative. Hopefully he's back soon.


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Just caught up.

That was a solid win. Turris line looked shaky at times, but that’s not new. Khaira looked great again. Smith looked confident (I agree with Adam. He’s not our guy for a deep Cup run. Got too many KM’s on those tires). McDavid was flying and Neal should’ve buried 2. Draisaitl looked dominate, except that unreal hip check by Petry. Defence looked alright save for a couple times they got hemmed in, but still didn’t panic. I might be out to lunch, but I didn’t notice the snow angels tonight. Shots were from the outside. Great game.

I know our D is turning a corner, but how good would a guy like Petry look here? Not crying about the past, but he’d be our second tier #1 dman instantly.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 11 February 2021 22:57

So Pulju test was inconclusive (pizza), and then negative. Hopefully he's back soon.


Yep. He’s just gaining some traction. He would’ve buried one of those Neal setups tonight. Koskinen needs to back soon. Not a fan, but I trust him more than Wells at this point.

On the bright side. Jesse has a contact tracing. His last time in town I’m not even sure if he had anyone, but the random guy who drove him to the airport.

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The Ennis - JJK - Archibald line is now the defacto 3rd line.. until Haas gets back then Turris will get likely bumped from center

Could see;

Put Turris on wing..
Ennis Khaira Archibald
(Neal/Nygard) Haas Turris

Sit Turris..
Ennis Khaira Archibald
(Neal/Nygard) Haas Chaisson

Eventually.. (when Kassian is back)
Ennis Khaira Archibald
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Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Montreal (Game #16) [message #776045 is a reply to message #776016 ]
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Skookum Jim  is currently offline Skookum Jim
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Listened to Smith interview after the game.. it seems he spent a lot of time in the summer here in Vancouver working on his game with a local Goalie-Whisperer, making improvements.. his performance from these two games might actually be the real deal..
Mike Smith 2.0 baby!

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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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