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 Yeah, I am actually... [message #500471 is a reply to message #500470 ]
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but whatever.

They are arguments, some good some bad, in Gagner/core member Horcoff havein' exclusive rights to the number one centre responsibility but what does Quinn have to lose at this point?

To paraphrase Stauffer and the long, but not forgotten, Bomb?

Give 'im a ten minute stint! ; )



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 Quincy He Wasn't.... [message #500481 is a reply to message #500468 ]
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...and yes, I officially endorse the Mr. Magoo reference. I was expecting a PM asking permission, but I'll settle for well-placed usage.

Really, this club is going nowhere with 10 as the highest paid forward on the club. It really is that simple. Square peg, round hole.

It's clear. He's not apt to play in that position. He has one position of which he would seem to be fairly capable (and really, it's far from a lock) - 3C with Pisani and Moreau.

Penner Gagner Hemsky
Moreau Horcoff Pisani (yes, I write this knowing Moreau is a 4th liner at best, but 10 hasn't been much better, while Pisani is a band-aid).

The Kid Line is a comprehensive failure at the NHL level. Pat Quinn - please abandon it.

Horcoff
Moreau
Nilsson
Staios

...12 million in wasted, unused scratch. Think 12 million bucks could improve this hockey club? I sure do. Thanks KLowe.

Don't let Horcoff's three blind mice against the Wings fool you.

The symptoms remain the same. Unfortunately for all, the club has yet to identify the disease. I think it's fairly obvious, don't you?

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 22:52]


"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

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just be happy I'm usin' it! That should be enough.

An' I introduced the square peg, round hole theory to the Zeitgeist too, so don't get carried away here BTR. ; )

Seriously, the disease? This malaise which generates loses, to on-paper inferior opponents? I'd say it's execution. Smidly had a whale of a game. The Oilers just get a lil' tighter and all will be well. Five man units... working in unison.



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 No, No... [message #500489 is a reply to message #500487 ]
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...you're just new to this 'Horcoff isn't a 1C' thing. You spent years trying to tell Oilfans that the 'heartland of hockey icon' Shawn Horcoff was the guy. I'll give you 'Heartland of Hockey Icon' - that's definitely an Andy original.

It's execution only if you think the roster is adequate/above average.

'Execution' is best saved for winning hockey teams who undergo inexplicable slumps, not for rosters best described as high on potential, and low on cap space and performing veterans.



"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

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 Oh yeah... [message #500498 is a reply to message #500489 ]
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right now, core member Horcoff is strugging indeed. That's not exactly a secret by any means.

I just think this "blow it up now" philosophy is crazy.

Give Brule a shot? Why not?



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 Gagner Is The Guy... [message #500503 is a reply to message #500498 ]
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...in that role.

I like Brule. And I like him where he is - remember, he's still getting his NHL legs under him.

Gagner has the talent to play the position. Give him the keys, then check the temperature in 20 games. The guy, at the very least, has the ability to take a pass at high speed.



"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

Mike Emerick, on-air, after the Game 3 win over Anaheim in the 2006 Western Conference Final.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Islanders (Game #15) [message #500459 is a reply to message #500427 ]
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Just my thoughts after watching the game

Seems to me every time we enter the zone, we take the puck down the wing and then get in line or just behind the net and throw it into the slot... I don't think I ever see anyone going to the net, and that turns into an offensive zone turnover.

We need some players who are willing to pay the price and go to the front of the net, and if no one is willing to do that, maybe they should stop throwing it to the front and praying someone is there

In our end, its atrocious, Ive watched other teams, and the Oilers make it look so difficult to clear the zone, there is no organized breakout if the D have any pressure put on them, its almost like there is no back up plan.

GET PHYSICAL... what happened? I don't care if they're considered a small skilled forward or not, if they're on this team, and if they want to play in the NHL, they need to learn to finish a check. It is constant where a player is a step away and he just peels off instead of letting the player atleast know he was there. Im not a very big guy, but I know it doesnt hurt that much giving a check as it does to receive one.

This team wont be generating much offense if they dont figure out how to breakout from their own end, aren't willing to pay a price in front of the opposing teams net and if they think 22, 67 and 46 are going to be the only players using their body.

I personally am hoping this team is so sick right now, that they're not willing to pay the price physically, because if not, we're in for a long season. There is no reason NYI should be outshooting us 2:1. Powerplays aside, if you dont end up on the powerplay you're simply not forcing the other team to take a penalty against you.



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 I hear ya, brother... [message #500463 is a reply to message #500459 ]
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too many times tonight passed up opportunitites to paste Islanders.

Can be a useful tool to draw penalties, y'know?



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 Re: I hear ya, brother... [message #500467 is a reply to message #500463 ]
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AY wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 00:02

too many times tonight passed up opportunitites to paste Islanders.

Can be a useful tool to draw penalties, y'know?


But this team has been doing that for a couple of years now. The last time I remember this team being a beach to play against was the 2006 playoff run. Going into the SCF the question was whether the Canes would be able to survive the physical barrage from the Oilers...

Fast forward a couple of years - WTF HAPPENED?



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 Re: I hear ya, brother... [message #500480 is a reply to message #500467 ]
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Agreed, when did we turn into the Nancyest team in the league?
I like the team we started out with this year, but now that half of our grit is gone all of our team seems to be gone as well.

I quite frankly am not sure I can watch Dancing with the Stars with Ales Hemsky ever again.
This was a sad sack of a game, thank goodnes, I went to a friends to see the pay-per view.

If Hemmer is our team's identity, then I know exactly why we are in the position we are in. Now more than ever, I wish Horcoff would take the reins, and do something with them. Damn it Horcoff, earn at least half of your pay check!

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 22:40]


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 Yeah core member/esteemed team captain Moreau [message #500482 is a reply to message #500480 ]
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mentioned this post-game too.

Look at the highlights of alotta games this season. They're not the result of one or two extra passes to look good. Nitty gritty goals. That's where it's at.

I'm sure the Oilers will get back to that soon enough.



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 Re: Yeah core member/esteemed team captain Moreau [message #500490 is a reply to message #500482 ]
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DELETE PLEASE.

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 23:06]


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 You're Asking Horcoff... [message #500484 is a reply to message #500480 ]
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...to be a leader, here? Shawn Horcoff won't be grabbing anyone by the scruff - he's not Mark Messier for gawd sakes.

Really?

That, while simultaneously dumping on Ales Hemsky, the best Oiler on the ice on this eve (and often the only source of legitimate offence on the club) only to annoint Horcoff saviour?

Wow.

You and I aren't watching the same games, Robin Masters.

Then again, this club and its fans have had a real predilection for plumbers over talent for some time now...

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 22:49]


"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

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BTR17 wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 22:47

...to be a leader, here? Shawn Horcoff won't be grabbing anyone by the scruff - he's not Mark Messier for gawd sakes.

Really?

That, while simultaneously dumping on Ales Hemsky, the best Oiler on the ice on this eve (and often the only source of legitimate offence on the club) only to annoint Horcoff saviour?

Wow.

You and I aren't watching the same games, Robin Masters.

Then again, this club and its fans have had a real predilection for plumbers over talent for some time now...


Either you can't read, or you're an idiot, but maybe for you it's both.

Sorry, post crap game stress.

EDIT: I think you mis-read what I wrote.

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 23:09]


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 So Says The Guy... [message #500494 is a reply to message #500493 ]
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...who just can't bear to watch Ales Hemsky play anymore!

Woe is you!

How'd that cut and paste go for you - the 'PLEASE DELETE' makes your reading/idiot comment look a little silly now!






"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

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We should have traded Hemsky with Smyth long ago, we missed our chance for a true rebuild, and we'll be paying the price for a long time.

I'm not sure how skating into a team's defense and shooting the puck into their skates makes someone the best player on the team. The guy hasn't progressed an inch since 06.



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 I Don't Agree... [message #500500 is a reply to message #500497 ]
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...that 83's part of the problem here. For instance, I listed 4 Acme Anvils above who hoover 12+ million in cap space.

83's creativity and under-market value contract are not high on my list of issues, no.

Would I trade 83? Sure. Anyone can move in the right transaction. But he's as close to an untouchable as you can find on the current roster, IMO. Imagine this offence....without 83.

It wouldn't be at all pretty, Magnum (the sorry above means I can call you Magnum, which you probably far prefer :) ).




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 I Know The Stress Well.... [message #500495 is a reply to message #500493 ]
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...do I ever.

Would be nice to have a legitimate Captain that could inspire teammates, agreed.

I think they have one, actually. Unfortunately, he's out with a concussion.



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BTR17 wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 23:11

...do I ever.

Would be nice to have a legitimate Captain that could inspire teammates, agreed.

I think they have one, actually. Unfortunately, he's out with a concussion.


I miss Souray too, let's just be friends and lament the loss of our best player, together.



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 I Miss The Guy's Tenacity And Moxie... [message #500501 is a reply to message #500499 ]
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...like you wouldn't believe, but if I had to pick, I'd rather 44 down, than 83 down - especially considering our depth at D.

Could be a long road back for 44, which is a shame.



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BTR17 wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 23:21

...like you wouldn't believe, but if I had to pick, I'd rather 44 down, than 83 down - especially considering our depth at D.

Could be a long road back for 44, which is a shame.


Noooooooooo! Stop saying that, we don't have depth at D, or at least it is not apparent. Plus, Souray could/might score as many goals as Hemmer while increasing our grit and D core.



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 Hemsky Creates... [message #500505 is a reply to message #500504 ]
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...this you can not deny.

When he has the puck, things happen in the offensive zone.

Those players are of a needle in a haystack, of a Vancouver Dynasties Stanley Cup Victory variety on this club. Think 'Where's Waldo' frequency.

We agree on Souray. He's integral.

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 23:43]


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 It's a confusing statement... [message #500506 is a reply to message #500504 ]
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"I'd rather 44 down, than 83 down - especially considering our depth at D." Indeed.

Does missing Souray's grit and compete and "smart's" from the backend unsurp Hemsky's ability to back in the opposition?

I said this last season, but losing one or both of Hemsky and Visnovsky kills the Oilers.

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 23:31]


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...has better ability to absorb the loss of 44 than does the F replacing 83.

Gilbert, Grebeshkov, Visnovsky and Kid Dynamite (Laddy Smid), should be enough on paper to manage 6-8 weeks sans 44. Of course, the performance has been lacking.

There's nothing on papyrus to suggest the F's could manage sans 83.



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Are you thinking straight?

There's no way the Oilers manage as well w/o Hemsky in the line-up.

I think your thinking is correct... language isn't.



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...what I am saying is 83 is the last guy I'd want to see this club lose to injury.


"The Oilers are playing like they'd rather die than lose."

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losing' Souray hurts less with all this depth at D you referenced.

I wanna make sure I understand you correctly.



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...in the thread became 'who would you rather lose to injury - 83 or 44?'

My answer is 44.

Yes, I think it'd hurt more to lose Hemsky than Souray. Indeed. Much more.

With respect to the D depth: this is a hockey team with Visnovsky, Gilbert, Grebeshkov and Kid Dynamite. They should be able to withstand 6-8 weeks sans 44. Absolutely. They have the pedigree to do so. Of course, you can't lose Visnovsky AND 44 at the same time...unfortunately, that's the current reality with the Visnovsky flu. And Gilbert and Grebeshkov have picked a rather fine time to fly their respective games south.

[Updated on: Tue, 03 November 2009 12:53]


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I don't know. Not with what the unwashed masses are learnin' by the day when it comes to #37/Gilbert. Chorney? Strudwick? Peckahm?

I'd rather see only one of those three competing, on a game basis.

The Oilers' PP with Souray?

The Oilers' D shot count(s) without Souray in the line-up?

The grit he adds to his own end?

[Updated on: Tue, 03 November 2009 13:13]


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Magnum P.S. wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 22:38

Agreed, when did we turn into the Nancyest team in the league?
I like the team we started out with this year, but now that half of our grit is gone all of our team seems to be gone as well.

I quite frankly am not sure I can watch Dancing with the Stars with Ales Hemsky ever again.
This was a sad sack of a game, thank goodnes, I went to a friends to see the pay-per view.

If Hemmer is our team's identity, then I know exactly why we are in the position we are in. Now more than ever, I wish Horcoff would take the reins, and do something with them. Damn it Horcoff, earn at least half of your pay check!


Are you saying that the team would be better off, if their identity was...Horcoff??

Ok, well you have piqued my interest. Tell me. Why are we in the position we are in? I can only guess that it is somehow 83s fault? One of the only two forwards on this team who creates anything offensively. That guy? If only we had more guys like 10! Then we would really be on to something. nono

Here is the thing that the anti-Hemsky few on this board havent quite grasped yet. The NHL is a cap league. Building a quality team revolves around managing your assets. If a player gives you 20 pts a year and he makes 1M? Great. If he makes 5M? Big problem. If your fifth highest paid player leads your team in scoring every year, and is your best player? Well that is far from a problem.

In simple terms this is what it comes down to.

Ales Hemsky at 4.1 is good for the Oilers.
Shawn Horcoff at 5.5 is not good for the Oilers.

Weather you like the guy or not, stop trying to pin this teams woes (and there are many) on one of the few bright spots we have.

[Updated on: Tue, 03 November 2009 12:57]


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We seem to have the flu quite badly...

Remember last season when there were disagreements about who was better: Gilbert or Grebeshkov? Now I can't decide who stinks worse.

The kid line is also crap.

You know how Horcoff is a $5.5 million cap hit to win faceoffs? He is now under 50%.

puke

That's H1N1 puke, we're that bad right now.



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and the only reason you pick #37 is it's a one year deal.

Gilbert's for what? Another five?

Yeesh! Like Quinn said, defencemen are supposed to be defencemen, in the strickest interpretation of the definition.

Core member Horcoff is the last of our worries, under those premises.



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Their deals have nothing to do with how crap they are on the ice.

Horcoff is a primary worry. I think I would have to give the honour of "last ofour worries" to Stortini at this point, maybe Visnovsky. But Horcoff on pace for 28 points and a -33 is a concern. If he stays below 50% on the dot... his contract aside, he is not providing anything to the team.



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the Oilers picked wrong. Investing heavily in the backend. If core member Horcoff is strugglin'... you can hide him.


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AY wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 23:59

...core member...


Hey AY. The Core sucks. The Core HAS SUCKED since 2006.

Best defencemen? Not part of the "core". (44/71)

Best forwards this year? Not part of the "core".

Tambellini is addled with the remnants of Lowe's "core" - a "core" that came together for one miracle run and has basically been horrible all other times.

This team needs to move on from the core. If anyone thinks that we're better off with Horcoff, Moreau, Staios, and as much as I like the guy, Pisani than the TALENT that their big contracts could buy, they're crazy. And wrong.

Edit: Off topic for my post, but O'Sullivan is AWFUL.



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...the core, the leadership on this club...is lacking.

Kevin Lowe put together quite a mess. And I say that being a Kevin Lowe fan.

An absolute mess.



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oilerinvan wrote on Mon, 02 November 2009 23:36

We seem to have the flu quite badly...

Remember last season when there were disagreements about who was better: Gilbert or Grebeshkov? Now I can't decide who stinks worse.

The kid line is also crap.

You know how Horcoff is a $5.5 million cap hit to win faceoffs? He is now under 50%.

puke

That's H1N1 puke, we're that bad right now.


The "Kid Line" should be stricken from the record books and never be spoken of or played again. I hope Nilsson is gone when Comrie gets back.



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Saw it mentioned on S-Net this morning that Horcoff has the ubiquitous "upper body injury" and didn't play much of the third period because of it.

Possibly an indictment of his play that I didn't even notice he was missing.



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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 08:18

Saw it mentioned on S-Net this morning that Horcoff has the ubiquitous "upper body injury" and didn't play much of the third period because of it.

Possibly an indictment of his play that I didn't even notice he was missing.

There was talk of Horcoff having the flu before the game.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 08:53

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 08:18

Saw it mentioned on S-Net this morning that Horcoff has the ubiquitous "upper body injury" and didn't play much of the third period because of it.

Possibly an indictment of his play that I didn't even notice he was missing.

There was talk of Horcoff having the flu before the game.


He got hammered by Andy Sutton at the start of the third and I'm not sure if he played another shift after that.



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Didn't see that Adam. I imagine it's more relevant.


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