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Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #826374 is a reply to message #826370 ]	Fri, 27 October 2023 13:27

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K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 27 October 2023 11:57

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 October 2023 10:20

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 27 October 2023 09:33

Where did I say that they were contending before Woodcroft? I said that he took a team... last year's team... and over the offseason decided he was going to change the way that they play hockey.

The Oilers have been contenders the past couple of seasons. When you're that close, it's not about making a dramatic change... it's about trying to find the right personnel and making the small adjustments to minimize the weaknesses in your game.

Woodcroft completely derailed this squad. They don't look anything like last year's team, and definitely look nothing like a contender.

Woodcroft had to change the way the played hockey because of how fully and completely they were exposed by the Knights and Avalanche. They simply weren't good enough to beat the good teams in the NHL when the games really mattered. Nothing we saw in the playoffs, despite what the paid activists say, should suggest they're small adjustments away from seriously contending for the cup.

No accident the Oilers had a 50 win season last year, they were 3-1 against Vegas. Vegas adjusted, the Oilers didn't have an answer of their own. It was pretty clear that a systemic change in the defensive zone might have been the next step to overcoming the problems presented by Vegas in the playoffs last year. Whether that was a tweak or more than a tweak, who knows? You count on the staff to devise a viable tweak or strategy, you count on them to communicate and roll out the changes. You count on the players to grasp the systemic changes and the assignments involved. Importantly, you count on adequate responses and adjustments when things aren't working early in the season, even within the confines of a hockey game. We've never seen the ability to adapt and adjust quickly from the group or the staff. None of it has gone well, so far.

Still a few games away from looking at a turnaround required similar to St. Louis a few years back, but they need Vegas to slump big time to catch them. It's not like they're dropping tight games, its more like they need an overhaul in the opposite direction. The Heritage Classic is a big game for the coaching staff, I'd say. Personnel wise, I'm not sure you wait, there are a couple guys on the farm at fwd and on d that you probably lose nothing in promoting for a look....Brown hasn't done anything that would make you keep him here for his 10 game bonus and the implications of that.

Holland hasn't lived up to the billing , but at the same time we see other teams do more with less in the playoffs, every year. We've seen it here. Doubtful Holland is fired in-season. He should be looking for some potential solutions in terms of personnel changes and behind the bench, because there's a ton on the line for this season and next, and the organization can't let the season get away. I can't see how Woody has much rope, but then again what are the options that can deliver an adjustable game strategy suited for the squad and get whats required out of the same players? 3rd coaching staff in the 8+ seaons of McDavid. 🤷‍♂️

Pretty puzzling how they're in this spot, there's a number of people that have to figure it out.

It's not puzzling at all.

Last year the Oilers gave up the second most goals of any playoff team and were then roasted in the playoffs by Vegas. Two years ago the Oilers gave up the third most goals of any playoff team and were roasted in the playoffs by Denver. Giving up goals has been a problem for a long long time. Since the Oilers decided to come back with basically the same defense they've had the only thing they could change was the structure. This might still work even though it clearly isn't right now.

The far bigger change this year is the Oilers simply haven't been able to outscore their obvious defensive issues. They gone from 3.2 GF/game in 2020 to 3.5 to 3.9 to 2.4 this year. Their GA/game over the same period is 2.8, 3.1, 3.2 to 4.2 this year.

4.2 GA / game won't last. They'll get better and they'll start to look more like the team that won 50 games last year. But that won't make them a contender because the same flaws still exist. This isn't because they're not trying hard enough, they got exposed by Vegas last year and need to adapt offensively too.

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Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: OilFans on Thu, 26 October 2023 21:30
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 26 October 2023 21:57
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: nullterm on Thu, 26 October 2023 21:57
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 26 October 2023 21:59
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: g2k on Thu, 26 October 2023 22:47
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: HamBlaster on Thu, 26 October 2023 22:48
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: nullterm on Thu, 26 October 2023 22:54
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 27 October 2023 08:41
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: HamBlaster on Fri, 27 October 2023 09:33
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 27 October 2023 10:20
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: K.McC#24 on Fri, 27 October 2023 11:57
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 27 October 2023 12:02
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 27 October 2023 13:27
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 27 October 2023 13:58
Re: Review: Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #7)	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 27 October 2023 14:04
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