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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 June 2022 00:12

NetBOG wrote on Wed, 01 June 2022 00:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 31 May 2022 23:50

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 31 May 2022 23:37

Oh and just to be clear.. Ron McLean is an absolute embarrassment, his extended intermission "big-screen explanation" trying to confuse the audience into believing that the off-side goal was in fact not actually off-side was pathetic. He didn't even understand the drivel that was coming out of his own mouth. One of the most embarrassing displays of NHL bootlicking by media I've ever seen.

Can't believe that ass-hat claims to be a referee.

Makar had POSSESSION of the puck the entire time he crossed the blue line.. the puck NEVER left the control of his stick.. he did not "shoot" it in over the line and then "picked it up" on the other side of the blue line..

End. Of. Discussion.

You don't lose "possession" if the puck does not continually touch the stick.. if you are "stickhandling" it never does.. its in fact the exact definition of stick "handling".. what defines "possession" is "control of the puck".. and Makar had control the entire time. Easy decision.

NO GOAL

The Avs 3rd goal (off-side), 4th goal (PPG from challenging the NHL's incompetence/bias) .. and the 8th goal (EN) were all the result of the NHL's decision to re-write the NHL rule book as they conducted the review..

Oilers won 6-5


Game 2, Oilers need to tighten up in their own end (they did the last half of the game).. and then just keep pumping pucks past Kuemper.. icon_nod


Well, I'll disagree slightly. We didn't win, even if that's clearly a major turning point. It's impossible to know how the game plays out without that call.

I thought Woodcroft did a good job explaining it after the game. Makar carries the puck across the line and never makes any attempt to hold up or avoid playing the puck. As Jay says, "it's not like he stops and lifts his stick for a second, he doesn't even know his guy is off-side." To me, that's possession. The NHL blows down the play on possession on delayed off-sides and penalty kills regularly where the guy hasn't yet touched the puck. Here they're clinging to a fraction of a second, if you allow that he didn't still have the puck touching his stick when it fully crossed the blueline, which is controversial in its own right.

If this is really the rule, then undoubtedly refs get it wrong all the time when players are tagging up, as they need to see whether the puck actually touched the stick on his stickhandling or was between taps whenever they are making that call. That's just not consistent with the way the game is officiated.

Just a brutal call. Maybe that's the hockey gods coming back on us after the Calgary disallowed goal (which to me was a 50/50 play), although they still owe us for the McDavid "goalie interference" one a couple games earlier then.


There is no way a linesman saw all of the slow-mo replays in real time. If he isn't completely incompetant, the play is blown dead on the ice and none of this happens.

Unfortunately either Brad Kovachik (#71) or Devin Berg (#87) couldn't do the simplest part of their job right. He was a foot inside the zone!


Can see from the right side shot how the lineman is behind the line and trying to look through players to determine that offside. If he was on the line, very likely it's blown down.

Kind of our fault though, our crappy zone exit attempt is the reason the puck turns over fast, comes flying back into our zone and the linesman had to try to run back to our line. Just an unfortunate sequence of events. Double unfortunate for Nurse who makes the bad exit play throwing a puck knees high right at Kane (wth, seriously), and is in a crap position to try to challenge Makar and block the shot.

If the linesman sees it properly, it's dead. Since it came down to a review and getting to zoom in and figure out the first contact inside the zone, it becomes a good goal. Sucks.

There is no doubt in my mind that it took motivation and perseverance by Team NHL to find a way for that goal to stand. It shocked the Avs likely as much as the Oilers. The way it wasn't blown down as offside when it happened was the original act of incompetence.



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