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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32) [message #799946 is a reply to message #799941 ]	Wed, 16 February 2022 09:06

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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 16 February 2022 08:19

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 February 2022 00:25

PlusOne wrote on Tue, 15 February 2022 17:43

Adam wrote on Tue, 15 February 2022 15:22

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 14 February 2022 19:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 14 February 2022 11:30

I believe the NHL and AHL were running similar systems - someone can correct me if they were but you'd think they would to make fairly easy transitions when guys get called up - so other than a tweak here or there, I wouldn't think he'd be changing a ton systems wise..

I will be interested in seeing if they go with 11 F and 7 dmen again. With so many inexperienced dmen right now, I think that might be the way to go.

**The below isnt my knowledge or opinion but rather something I saw in a twitter thread I have never seen the Condors play a full game**

Apparently the Oilers were running a very different system than the Condors.
The Oilers were running more of a F1, F2, F3 system. IE the forward role both in the O and D zone was dictated by the who was first into the zone.
The Condors ran a more traditional C down the middle and wingers on their sides system.

**This below is my opinion and thoughts**

The former allows for more freedom and creativity on O but can also cause a lot of confusion in their own end. It requires more thinking, read and react, type plays and might explain why the Oilers looked like a tire fire/modified swarm 80% of the time.

The 2nd requires the C to be more defensively responsible, higher in the O zone and quicker back to cover out front. It is much simpler and removes the ability to finger point. If a guy is uncovered in the slot it is the D or C. The point is the wingers. The KISS method of defending.

I believe these were all original thoughts of one Jason Gregor, were they not?

Ha ha ha!

I honestly dont remember where I saw the first half outside of it being a twitter thread. I took note given I know nothing about how the Condors play outside of the odd stat someone mentions here. Did you see it from Gregor there?

The second half is just my simple thoughts on differences. I did mean to get into how it applied and could work (or not) for the Oilers but didn't put in the effort...
In my time coaching I never liked the F1,2,3 strategies but I was never coaching pro's. Even in my time coaching junior age players it was a tough game plan as it required too much thinking AND all players to buy into it and co-ordinate.

That was a bit of a joke. Gregor pillaged someone else's take - almost verbatim - on how Woodcroft runs his system. When called on it, Gregor pointed to an article he wrote a couple weeks ago that had some wording about that in there. But, someone used the Way Back Machine and showed that it had been edited in much more recently by Gregor in a futile attempt to save face, rather than just giving credit where it was due...

That is hilarious. Outside of a couple I follow on twitter, and stuff mentioned here, I don't hear much from the Edmonton media. Many years back I made a conscious effort to cut them out of my routine as it helped me enjoy the sport more.
At the start of this season I tried to listen Staples podcast and that lasted about 5 episodes. It became clear fast that his knowledge of the NHL started and stopped with the Oilers and his knowledge of hockey in general stopped around Pee Wee.

I listen to NHL network on XM radio for roughly 2 hours a day in the car so from time to time one of them is a guest and they are much more palatable in that format.

I don't mind Gregor most of the time, but he is absolutely incapable of admitting he's wrong. This was the douchey apex of that.

As for Staples, the general rule on him in both sports and politics is that whatever he says is completely wrong. So many bad takes.

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Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: OilFans on Mon, 14 February 2022 02:00
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: NetBOG on Mon, 14 February 2022 03:31
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 February 2022 09:03
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 14 February 2022 09:52
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Mon, 14 February 2022 10:12
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 February 2022 10:30
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: PlusOne on Mon, 14 February 2022 19:25
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Tue, 15 February 2022 14:22
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: PlusOne on Tue, 15 February 2022 17:43
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Tue, 15 February 2022 23:25
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 15 February 2022 23:55
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: PlusOne on Wed, 16 February 2022 08:19
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Wed, 16 February 2022 09:06
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 14 February 2022 11:49
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 February 2022 11:52
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 14 February 2022 12:01
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 14 February 2022 12:28
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 February 2022 12:32
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 February 2022 12:43
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Mon, 14 February 2022 13:24
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 14 February 2022 14:31
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Mon, 14 February 2022 15:57
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 14 February 2022 18:13
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 14 February 2022 14:35
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 14 February 2022 14:39
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Rutuu on Mon, 14 February 2022 16:07
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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #32)	By: Adam on Mon, 14 February 2022 15:54

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