 RDOilerfan
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 24 May 2023 15:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 24 May 2023 12:58 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 May 2023 12:42 |
We will disagree. I would gladly take the Oilers roster over the Knights because the Knights are a much older team both at forward and on defense. So in my opinion the likelihood they will repeat their season due to age is less than the Oilers.
I can't find it now because Capfriendly and PuckPedia have shifted their sites to the 2023 season but I believe the Knights has a cap hit of over 96 mill, the Oilers around 90. That takes into account injuries I believe but an extra 6 mill in player is a lot. That's an advantage.
The Knights got the advantage in their first round opponent. I had the Jets beating the Knights all day. They had the better goalie on paper and I thought the Jets had a good team because on paper they do. But there is some serious locker room problems on that team and the Jets laid down and died. So the Knights got a cake walk, the Oilers got a war with the Kings. That took a toll as the Oilers came out more banged up than the KNights did.
The Knights got lucky with Brossoit pulling his groin or whatever happened. Brossoit was going to give the Knights adequate goaltending, due to injury, they have to play Hill and he's been spectacular.
So lots of things went right for Vegas to be where they are.
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A lot of what you say went right for Vegas is the result of good management and of being a good hockey team. The Knights didn't 'get' a better first round opponent, they earned it. Their management made better use of the rules than the Oilers. They have goaltending depth and the defense to make their tenders better.
The Knights have been to the conference finals 4 time in their 6 years with likely 2 trips to the finals. Aside from McDavid and pure homerism I don't see a strong argument in favor of the Oilers.
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Case in point regarding management - the Oilers could have sat Kane, Yamamoto or both and gone and used their money to get additional players for the playoff run. That $6MM difference in payroll? That's it right there.
The Knights took a risk that they wouldn't win home ice advantage by holding Stone out for longer than he probably needed, and it allowed them to add Barbashev, Blueger and Quick at the deadline. That's not insignificant. Well, Quick is, but that's it. They didn't have to give up anything to get those players too.
Compare that to Edmonton where it cost us Barrie and Puljujarvi in order to get Ekholm and Bjugstad. Bjugstad didn't add an awful lot, Ekholm was great, but imagining also adding another $6MM player or two more $3MM players? Could have addressed both defence and top six holes in the roster.
I know some would like to ignore it, but it comes back again and again to the fact our biggest hole is in management. I have to think that a management team like Vegas, if they had McDavid and Draisaitl for the last 8 years, they'd have won more than four playoff rounds. I mean, hell, they've won a lot more in less time without those gifts. If I'm McDavid and Draisaitl, that's why I guestion whether this is where I want to sign my next contract. The legacy looks a lot worse if they never win a Cup, and if I was them, I'd be losing confidence fast.
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Very true. The Oilers had the opportunity to cheat and they didn't do it. I can't argue with that. In hindsight, they should have cheated, got the cap space and loaded up even more. I hope if the opportunity arises next season, they will do it. I am being 100% serious. If the league is going to allow this joke of a system to keep going, the Oilers need to play the system just like the Knights.
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