 RDOilerfan
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 24 May 2023 12:58 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 24 May 2023 12:42 |
We will disagree. I would gladly take the Oilers roster over the Knights because the Knights are a much older team both at forward and on defense. So in my opinion the likelihood they will repeat their season due to age is less than the Oilers.
I can't find it now because Capfriendly and PuckPedia have shifted their sites to the 2023 season but I believe the Knights has a cap hit of over 96 mill, the Oilers around 90. That takes into account injuries I believe but an extra 6 mill in player is a lot. That's an advantage.
The Knights got the advantage in their first round opponent. I had the Jets beating the Knights all day. They had the better goalie on paper and I thought the Jets had a good team because on paper they do. But there is some serious locker room problems on that team and the Jets laid down and died. So the Knights got a cake walk, the Oilers got a war with the Kings. That took a toll as the Oilers came out more banged up than the KNights did.
The Knights got lucky with Brossoit pulling his groin or whatever happened. Brossoit was going to give the Knights adequate goaltending, due to injury, they have to play Hill and he's been spectacular.
So lots of things went right for Vegas to be where they are.
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A lot of what you say went right for Vegas is the result of good management and of being a good hockey team. The Knights didn't 'get' a better first round opponent, they earned it. Their management made better use of the rules than the Oilers. They have goaltending depth and the defense to make their tenders better.
The Knights have been to the conference finals 4 time in their 6 years with likely 2 trips to the finals. Aside from McDavid and pure homerism I don't see a strong argument in favor of the Oilers.
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So if your take is that it's all great management, how do you explain the Panthers then? The Panthers made it in the playoffs because the Pens crapped the bed and lost to the Hawks in one of their final games. Pens win, Panthers don't make it. But Pens lost a game they should have won, now the Panthers are probably going to be in the cup final. So that was management by the Panthers that things bounced their way?
Do I think the Knights are a good team, Yes so that is a credit to their coach and manager. Is it a good management decision to have all those goalies? Sure. But would they have played Hill if Brossoit hadn't got hurt? Probably not as Brossoit was made the starter and as we have all seen, coaches tend to stick with their "starter" no matter what in the playoffs. But maybe they would have. There is no way to know so if you don't want to say that is a break that Brossoit got hurt, that's fine. I don't fully buy that it's all great management with what has happened with the Knights. If McD doesn't get kneed by Doughty, is he ever so slightly better against the knights, probably. Is that Vegas great management? No. I think good management plays a part but so does luck and so does things just going right for a team at the right time because things are so close in the NHL. A team gets the right opponent at the right time. Key guys do or don't get hurt. Goalies get hot at the right time. Depth forwards get hot at the right time. You get the right ref call at the right time. All things that happen that great management can't control but impact a series good or bad. The Bruins and their manager set records for wins and points and lost in the first round. So their GM who's up for an award and will probably win it, he's a bad manager in your eyes?
We will go round and round on this if I keep going so I will let it go. You have your opinion and I have mine and it's not going to change. Like I said, a manager can build a dominate team, like the Bruins this year, and stuff just happens and they lose and there is not a thing the GM could do differently to stop it. How about this. In a year from now, if the Knights fall short like I expect, I assume you will gladly come on here and tell me the the same management you are praising today, that management is terrible. Don't worry, I will remind you if you forget.
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