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Jay Messages: 251
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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 11:13 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 11:01 |
CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 10:11 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 09:55 |
CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 09:06 | 11 points in 12 games.
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You aren't coming at me with that are you?
He has 9 PP assists. Passing the puck to McD then watching him dance around and set someone else up to score isn't on the same level as scoring a freaking goal. He had 1 GOAL and 2 5 on 5 pts.
I know you love to stir the pot but come on man.
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I don't know why power play offense isn't included in the mental math of offense.
Yes, it would have been nice to get a little more out of the Nuge, but fingering 11 points in 12 games as the problem is kind of silly. Like if he was 2-3-5 at EV and had 6 PP points, would we all be happy? I still think his lack of defensive responsibility was both more of a surprise and more consequential.
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I would be happier if he had more 5 on 5 points because in my opinion, the Oilers lost the series and a big reason was a lack of 5 on 5 scoring. Nuge is the head of the secondary layer of 5 on 5 scoring behind McD and Leon and he was non existent. Do I also think his defense was poor? Yes but like I said, I don't think the Oilers are ever going to be a shut down team unless they drastically change out a lot of their players. That includes Nuge. Nuge is not a great shutdown guy, never has been. He can be decent at defending but he's not a good shut down guy. So expecting him to be amazing defensively isn't going to happen. He needs to score to offset him being an average defender.
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Sure, I agree with all of that but... the Oilers were totally dominated at even strength by the VGK. It seems odd to pick on Nuge. Honestly, if we're looking to hang goat horns on anyone we should be looking at Draisaitl's phat -7 in the last 4 games with 1 EV assist over the last 4 games. Nuge being Nuge and contributing 5 points (4 PP) as the season got shot down isn't all that bad.
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Of course the Oilers don't even have a look at the second round without 29. I don't think RNH even played against LA. And the success he has on the PP is a direct result of defenders bending over backwards to try to stop 29/97. We all know this.
You can criticize one or the other based on your expectations or other similar players but mentioning 93 in the same breath as 29 in any sort of 'who is a more (or less) effective player' conversation is silly.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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