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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 10:48 |
| Steve wrote on Wed, 17 May 2023 10:23 |
Ceci was bad, no doubt, but why was he so much better last year? I remember being pleasantly surprised by him. He played a huge role and played higher than we thought he would. If we had last year's Ceci, it would have made a huge difference. Without knowing the reason(s), I'm not sure what to do about him. Ideally they would find a better 2nd pairing RHD to play with Nurse and move Ceci down to third pair, but I'm not sure they can afford Ceci's salary on the third pair. His salary is good value for 2nd pair, but high for third pair. He's trapped and it's a tough spot for the Oilers. Trading him and upgrading may be best, but I'm not sure who the other player is or what they would cost. We also need better depth on RHD in general.
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Yeah, think Ceci is a real challenge for management now. You have to make the right call on what to do with him, because depending on him to be a top 4 guy, especially with Nurse, could be a costly disaster again.
IMO, looking at his history, last year was the exception for him, and we cannot count on that happening again. Even last year, his 5v5 GF was 47.46%. Not with really tough zone starts either. Statistically his last 2 seasons look pretty similar for results. I think maybe he stood out worse this year more because so many players on this team started playing much better in the 2nd half, and he just stayed in the 1st half mode.
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I remember a few posters objecting to him getting a four-year deal when he was signed...he's a depth guy, so why commit to him until the end of time? Especially considering he was one year removed from a disaster of a season and coming off his best ever season to that point.
Ditto Kulak for that matter. For some reason, Holland values long-term contracts for depth players over cap flexibility. Virtually everyone gets multi-year deals, and there's not much sense to it. If you love what Koekkoek or Shore or Archibald or Kulak or Ceci is bringing, you can always re-up them later, but you're talking about guys in their late 20s and 30s who are A) replaceable and B) unlikely to take a huge leap forward in their play. So sign them to short-term deals and then re-sign or replace as needed. And then if their play falls off a cliff, cut them loose.
I read a rumour that we're already considering two more years for Derek Ryan, and while I loved what he brought in the playoffs and the second half of this year, I don't see why you need to give a second year to him at this point.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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