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 CrusaderPi
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 11 May 2023 15:55 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 11 May 2023 15:35 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 11 May 2023 15:02 |
So if a person challenges someone else to a fight, then a few seconds later the other person goes to fight him. The first person didn't start it in your world?
Obviously we have never met. But if you are out somewhere and walk up to a guy, you get in a guys face and you legit challenge him to a fight. Then he punches you shortly after, it's his fault you got into a fight, not yours? Sorry for repeating myself but I am struggling to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense to me. If Hague doesn't ask to fight, the fight doesn't happen
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In a hockey context? Yes. But actually in a legal context I think your scenario ends the same way. You can't walk away from a challenge, then start a fight 10 seconds, and blame the other guy because you punched him. <not a lawyer, opinion for entertainment purposes only>
Last night there was a challenge, it wasn't accepted, the players parted then one player skated across the ice to challenge. I understand you don't like the Nurse suspension, but it makes sense that it wasn't rescinded. The fight doesn't happen unless Nurse skates across the ice.
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We will never agree and I will never accept your explanation. Please don't tell me how I feel. You don't know me so you don't have the ability to speak for me. My opinion on the suspension has nothing to do with "not liking it", it has everything to do with the fact the ref made a mistake in calling the instigator penalty in the first place. Nurse doesn't skate across the ice to fight if Hague doesn't ask him to fight. Without the initial challenge, nothing happens. So to dismiss that and tell me Hague was blameless almost making it sound like he was an innocent bi-stander that got cruelly jumped, is wrong in my opinion.
The point of the instigator rule is to stop guys from jumping on the ice, grabbing someone who's just innocently standing there and beating on a guy that had no interest in fighting. That's not what happened here. The ref made the mistake in calling the instigator rule because both guys had a hand in causing a fight. That's a fact! Hague asked for the fight first. That's a fact! Nurse skated over to go fight Hague as requested. That's a fact! Hague saw him coming and dropped his gloves to fight Nurse. That's a fact! Nurse dropped his gloves as well. That's a fact. Hague threw the first 8 punches. That's a fact! Nurse finished him. That's a fact! All these things are factual evidence based on video and testimony. Both guys wanted to fight, so they fought.
So my "dislike" of the suspension is not because Nurse got it. It's because the refs made a mistake, then the league backed up that mistake and added to it.
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I told you I understand how you feel. Big difference.
You can say the ref made a mistake, but that doesn't really matter. You've explained what you've seen a few times now. To me, based solely on your explanation of the facts, the NHL not rescinding the penalty makes sense to. That's not me trying to explain anything, that's me forming a conclusion based on the argument you brought. Again, it's a big difference. I will point out that if I was trying to explain what's happened, and I'm not, I'd say exactly what you said.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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