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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #822719 is a reply to message #822703 ]	Thu, 04 May 2023 18:17

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Adam wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 11:55

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 11:12

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 08:58

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 08:32

I thought the Oilers looked like a team that for 2 weeks didn't play conventional hockey. The Kings and their unique passive, no forecheck style is strange so when the Knights came at the Oilers with an actual forecheck, the Oilers looked shocked and it took them awhile to adjust.

The Good
Leon. WOW. He's unreal and almost by himself tied the game.
McD looked to be buzzing and hopefully put Rishaugh's lame "he's hurt" to bed. A few points, should have had a goal.

The average
Ekholm and Bouchard were OK. Missed a few chances to score. Defensively were OK.
Skinner. I didn't like his first but his second and 3rd were good.
Hyman. I thought he was moving his feet better and going to the net more. 2 primary assists.
Foegele was alright. He needs to pop one and I think it's coming.
Bjudstad. Good on draws. A few shots. 5 hits. For a 3rd line center, he was OK.
Nurse. I thought he was flying around a lot. Had 7 shots, could have scored so I like that. Probably doing too much defensively. Needs to calm down.

The bad
Kane, he wasn't much of a factor.
McLeod. Did he even play? I can't remember one thing he did.
Yamo. See above. I can't remember one thing he did. Zero shots.
Ceci, Kulak. Broberg I thought they weren't very good.
Kostin. He was too quiet for me to say he was average.

Real bad.
Desharnais. I like the guy, I am pulling for him. I like some of the things he does but he looked overwhelmed. He definitely looked like a guy who wasn't used to having forecheckers. Way too cute with the puck.
Nuge. I have had enough. None factor once again and has been for now 7 games in a row. No shots, no blocks, no takeaways in over 20 mins. What the hell are you doing out there when you got zeros all over the stat line. He's the leader of the Oilers secondary scoring. He's the longest serving Oiler. He's 30 so he should have the experience where guys like him elevate in the playoffs. He's the guy that year after year he would sit there and complain about missing the playoffs, not getting it done again, how he wants to win. LOOK IN THE FREAKING MIRROR RYAN!! Not good enough, not even close.
Am I ranting on him a bit? Yes but year after year he's supposed to be one of the key guys and year after year he's let the team down. He needs to pick his game up BIG TIME. The Oilers have a legit shot at the cup and the key to them winning is guys like Nuge stepping their game up in the playoffs because they are hungry for the cup. He hasn't even had an average game yet.

Frustrating game to watch. The only positive is I thought the Knights played very, very well, the Oilers weren't good except maybe the last 10 mins of the game. Yet the Oilers almost tied that game up.

Can Nuge watch some Seattle games? Eberle is buzzing every shift at 5v5. Nuge seems to be waiting for the PP all night. I'm a bit stunned at how bad he's been at doing pretty much anything at ES. He's got 1 assist 5v5, on that Bjugstad back hand floater from the boards that went in. Nuge is also likely one of our only top 6 "wingers" that isn't playing with some kind of injury.

I keep seeing people on twitter when Nuge is mentioned how he must be hurt. When, where? He's never missed a practice of a morning skate. He's never got his ice time scaled back or his role reduced. It can't be because he's been physical. He's got 7 hits in 7 games so he doesn't touch anyone. I haven't seen him go down, the trainer talk to him, he miss a shift, have to get checked. Nothing. I think it's 100% exactly how he's been is whole career. When the pressure ramps up, he doesn't have the intensity in his game to ramp up his play. Nuge has never been an intense player. I thought this past season maybe the light clicked on finally but it hasn't. He looks exactly like he did in 2016 when he was a non factor.

I am so disappointed by him as I really thought this was the year he would be a force in the playoffs and so far, it's not even close.

For next game, I would have the following in the top 6 in some order.
McD, Leon, Hyman, Kane, Foegele Bjugstad. I know Foegele doesn't have the greatest finish but he's been good every game. He didn't record a shot last game but he had chances that just went wide.
They need guys who are going.

I disagree with all of this.

I think in the Oilers system, their centers are generally the defensive conscience of the line and so they're not forechecking as hard. McDavid/Draisaitl are a bit of an outlier here - they're all attack all the time - but Nuge, McLeod, etc. aren't asked to be the first in on the forecheck to rattle the boards. You can't look at their hits as a measure of whether they're engaged.

I do think that sometimes Nuge needs to be a little less afraid to take some more offensive risks. His line hasn't provided much offensively at all, and we need more from them. I don't think that means that he's been a shrinking violet and that he just can't handle the pressure. I'm struggling to think of a play all post-season where 93 has made a glaring error leading to a goal or great chance against. He just hasn't done enough to put points on the board other than some stellar powerplay work.

Nuge did get some wing time, but things were just not working. Winger Nuge needs his 2 linemates 5v5 to be rolling, letting him find open space in the offensive zone. Just isn't happening, Hyman and Kane are just off their games for likely injury reasons both.

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- Lowe, 2013

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- MacT, 2015

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