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Re: Flames arena [message #822199 is a reply to message #822197 ]	Wed, 26 April 2023 12:56

CrusaderPi
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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 12:09

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:11

Why do you care? If you acknowledge that the City of Edmonton is better with Rogers and they are a better place with the Oilers and their is a direct benefit to the City by being involved in building Rogers, why are you so hung up on the details? If it ended up being a good deal to the City and it's a better place because of it, isn't that what you want?

I care because it's my money that people are stealing. I think the details made it a bad deal for the people of the city and made live worse. The benefit of the Oilers and arena could still have been realized even if it wasn't a giant wealth transfer scheme.

I don't think wanting good government is that crazy of an idea.

I guess we will never agree. In my line of work I deal with private developers as well as municipalities. Anytime there is a project proposed by a private developer, the municipality ALWAYS wants stuff for free. "You want an entrance on to this roadway, no problem. See that dysfunction existing intersection 3 blocks away from your development that we should fix right now. Our model shows that if this intersection on this day, at this time, if and this and that happens all at once, your development will cause traffic problems at that intersection so you need to fix our badly designed existing intersection because we don't want to pay for it so you can. " Or "you need a sanitary service for your development. No problem. That pipe you want to tie into that we have neglected, already know it's grossly under capacity and know it needs to be replace many years ago, well guess what, you get to upgrade for us. Thank you. If you don't want too, OK, no problem. Then you can't develop."

I deal with that crap all the time. Municipalities try to squeeze and screw over private developers all the time. Private developers try to squeeze and screw the City all the time. It's what happens all the time. So I have no issue when all sides play a hand and pay their part in a project.

Sure but keep my hand and my money out of it. Do I get to watch an event live with the money from my taxes that will be going to the project? No.

DS is using my and our taxes to buy Calgary and the election. What do I get out of it? A health spending account to pay to visit my family doctor. lol.

And this is what bothers me most about big government. They all inevitably start acting in their best interest, with our money, while also speaking for us.

RDO's example is a perfect show of how government act in their best interest and create a scenario where they are making life more expensive and worse for the people who are living there. It's shameful.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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Flames arena	By: Goose on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:07
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:10
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:12
Re: Flames arena	By: NetBOG on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:16
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:33
Re: Flames arena	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 25 April 2023 17:05
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 08:24
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 08:59
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 09:26
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 09:48
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:11
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:27
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:43
Re: Flames arena	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 26 April 2023 12:09
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 12:56
Re: Flames arena	By: feepa on Wed, 26 April 2023 13:52
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Wed, 26 April 2023 17:21
Re: Flames arena	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 26 April 2023 18:18
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:15
Re: Flames arena	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:01
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:11
Re: Flames arena	By: K.McC#24 on Thu, 27 April 2023 17:43
Re: Flames arena	By: Goose on Mon, 01 May 2023 14:02
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Mon, 01 May 2023 14:30
Re: Flames arena	By: kungpaobenji27 on Wed, 03 May 2023 10:51
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Wed, 03 May 2023 10:53
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:07
Re: Flames arena	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 03 May 2023 16:27

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