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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:11


Why do you care? If you acknowledge that the City of Edmonton is better with Rogers and they are a better place with the Oilers and their is a direct benefit to the City by being involved in building Rogers, why are you so hung up on the details? If it ended up being a good deal to the City and it's a better place because of it, isn't that what you want?

I care because it's my money that people are stealing. I think the details made it a bad deal for the people of the city and made live worse. The benefit of the Oilers and arena could still have been realized even if it wasn't a giant wealth transfer scheme.

I don't think wanting good government is that crazy of an idea.

I guess we will never agree. In my line of work I deal with private developers as well as municipalities. Anytime there is a project proposed by a private developer, the municipality ALWAYS wants stuff for free. "You want an entrance on to this roadway, no problem. See that dysfunction existing intersection 3 blocks away from your development that we should fix right now. Our model shows that if this intersection on this day, at this time, if and this and that happens all at once, your development will cause traffic problems at that intersection so you need to fix our badly designed existing intersection because we don't want to pay for it so you can. " Or "you need a sanitary service for your development. No problem. That pipe you want to tie into that we have neglected, already know it's grossly under capacity and know it needs to be replace many years ago, well guess what, you get to upgrade for us. Thank you. If you don't want too, OK, no problem. Then you can't develop."

I deal with that crap all the time. Municipalities try to squeeze and screw over private developers all the time. Private developers try to squeeze and screw the City all the time. It's what happens all the time. So I have no issue when all sides play a hand and pay their part in a project.



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