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Re: Flames arena [message #822184 is a reply to message #822181 ]	Wed, 26 April 2023 08:59

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 26 April 2023 08:24

I don't agree when people say that public money shouldn't be involved with an arena. A City is only as good as it's facilities. It's a CITY FACILITY. You can't have facilities that are falling apart.

The whole "paying for billionaires and millionaires" is such a ridiculous take and to me shows a lack of intelligence by the people that say it. The NHL team is just the lead tenant but that rink will be used by all kinds of concerts that currently don't go to to Calgary. Rodeo's, curling, wrestling, UFC, trade shows, non hockey staking events, etc. All things that will use that arena. All things that bring HUGE amounts of money to the City and surrounding businesses. All things and inevitably bring tax dollars back to the City and the citizens.

So even if a person NEVER goes to a single Flames game or even an event in that new rink ever, they will get a economic benefit from that rink. Nothing is free in the world, so if the City and the citizens of Calgary are going to get an economic benefit from a new arena, which they will, they should have skin in the game.

It'll be a facility in the city, but it's not a city facility. It'll be used and managed by the Flames and the direct economic benefit will go to the Flames. I don't like the idea of public money being used to pay for capital where the return benefits a private corporation. What I don't mind is public money being used to improve public infrastructure that'll benefit not just the business, but also the people. If, for example, the city paid for the outdoor plaza I wouldn't mind. If the city did the roads, utilities, and lowered taxes for everyone I'd also be fine with it.

What always happens with any government scheme is the public benefit never equals the public investment while the private business, NGO, non-profit, or bureaucracy becomes reliant on continued public support and operationally inefficient. Taking fewer public dollars has the opposite effect.

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Flames arena	By: Goose on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:07
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:10
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:12
Re: Flames arena	By: NetBOG on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:16
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 25 April 2023 16:33
Re: Flames arena	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 25 April 2023 17:05
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 08:24
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 08:59
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 09:26
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 09:48
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:11
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:27
Re: Flames arena	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 26 April 2023 10:43
Re: Flames arena	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 26 April 2023 12:09
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 26 April 2023 12:56
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Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Wed, 26 April 2023 17:21
Re: Flames arena	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 26 April 2023 18:18
Re: Flames arena	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:15
Re: Flames arena	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:01
Re: Flames arena	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 27 April 2023 14:11
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