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 CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| benv wrote on Thu, 16 March 2023 15:52 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 16 March 2023 15:22 |
| benv wrote on Thu, 16 March 2023 15:05 |
...and wondering who from the last 6 years would move up or be added to the list. We've already talked about how McDavid would move up to #2 or 3 depending on your perspective while Draisaitl would go from off the list right to somewhere from #5-7. The other obvious one would be moving Nugent-Hopkins up from #29. If they had Hall at #14 in 2017, RNH would have to be higher now. He's currently 7th all time in games played and (if healthy) will be 5th all time by the end of the season. His breakout season this year has moved him past Weight and up to 8th all time in Oiler scoring (behind only McDavid, Draisaitl, and the big 5 from the cup years). I think he may be around #10 now (and still moving up).
Outside of that who else could be added? Nurse probably merits an appearance somewhere in the bottom half. Anyone else? I don't think any of our goalies these last 6 years should be there (maybe you could make a case for Smith or Talbot, but I don't think I would). Klefbom perhaps? Larsson?
It makes me realize that the moderate success the Oilers have had over the last few years has really been McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Nurse and a rotating cast.
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Yeah, Nurse needs to get added to the list and I think Hymen does too. RNH is definitely top 11 for me, maybe as high as 8th. That's probably about it for me. I'd sign off on Larsson or Klefbom, but wouldn't fight for them. Yammo might be next on the list if he sticks around.
The amount of turnover during the McDavid era has been incredible.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/61/edmonton-oilers/stats /all-time?sort=-first-season
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Getting back on track to the greatness of McDavid--what would he need to do to supplant Gretzky for number one on the list? Is it even possible?
I would say: "yes". If McDavid retires in 2035 after a 20 year career, all with the Oilers, and there's a couple of Stanley Cups in there I would be willing to give him the title (assuming the excellence continues with just a slight drop off as he gets into his late 30s). He may never be a better PLAYER than Gretzky (he'll never have the 200 point seasons) but I would be willing to proclaim him a better OILER at that point.
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It's hard for me to demote the all time great to second place but that sounds about right. 2 Stanley cups, 15 years of McDavid level play, and a non-acrimonious exit might do it for me. I might put them as 1a and 1b under such a scenario. Gretzky would be the guy who built the franchise and McDavid would be the guy who saved it.
Of course I saw Gretzky play as an Oiler. Anyone who is under 32 now never saw peak cup winning Gretz.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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