 benv
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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| benv wrote on Wed, 15 March 2023 11:31 |
Back in 2017, the Hockey News published the list of top 50 players all time for each team (determined by a series of experts). McDavid had only two years under his belt at the time and finished 19th on the Oilers' list; Draisaitl didn't make the top 50. Top 10 were:
1. Gretzky
2. Messier
3. Kurri
4. Coffey
5. Fuhr
6. Anderson
7. Lowe
8. Smyth
9. Tikkanen
10. Weight
So how high would McDavid and Draisaitl be on the list today? I think I would put McDavid easily at no. 3, maybe no. 2. Messier's leadership, longevity and cup wins maybe still has him ahead of Connor, but I think a few more years of excellence could vault McDavid over Messier.
Placing Draisaitl is tougher. I think I would put him at 6, with the ability to climb the list if he stays with team and keeps racking up 100 point seasons.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I was just looking at the entire list from the 2017 Hockey News:
1. Gretzky
2. Messier
3. Kurri
4. Coffey
5. Fuhr
6. Anderson
7. Lowe
8. Smyth
9. Tikkanen
10. Weight
11. Huddy
12. Ranford
13. Simpson
14. Hall
15. Moog
16. MacTavish
17. S Smith
18. Hemsky
19. McDavid
20. Gregg
21. Fogolin
22. J Smith
23. Horcoff
24. Eberle
25. Salo
26.Hunter
27. Marchant
28. Roloson
29. Nugent-Hopkins
30. Buchberger
31. Muni
32. Krushelnyski
33. Arnott
34. Cu Joseph
35. Richardson
36. Semenko
37. McClelland
38. Moreau
39. Niinimaa
40. Lumley
41. Mironov
42. Klima
43. Linseman
44. Gagner
45. Staios
46. Grier
47. Laraque
48. Pronger
49. Brewer
50. Dubnyk
...and wondering who from the last 6 years would move up or be added to the list. We've already talked about how McDavid would move up to #2 or 3 depending on your perspective while Draisaitl would go from off the list right to somewhere from #5-7. The other obvious one would be moving Nugent-Hopkins up from #29. If they had Hall at #14 in 2017, RNH would have to be higher now. He's currently 7th all time in games played and (if healthy) will be 5th all time by the end of the season. His breakout season this year has moved him past Weight and up to 8th all time in Oiler scoring (behind only McDavid, Draisaitl, and the big 5 from the cup years). I think he may be around #10 now (and still moving up).
Outside of that who else could be added? Nurse probably merits an appearance somewhere in the bottom half. Anyone else? I don't think any of our goalies these last 6 years should be there (maybe you could make a case for Smith or Talbot, but I don't think I would). Klefbom perhaps? Larsson?
It makes me realize that the moderate success the Oilers have had over the last few years has really been McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Nurse and a rotating cast.
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