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Re: Ekholm trade [message #818966 is a reply to message #818792 ]	Thu, 02 March 2023 23:06

Adam
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:28

Between Ekholm and Chychrun, I think for who else the Oilers have for dmen, Ekholm is the better fit. The Oilers need guys to help keep the puck out of the net. Eklhom is bigger, meaner, more physical, has more experience both in season and the playoffs, more durable and has a much better and longer track record of being a better defender than Chychurn. He plays on the PK a lot, has played a shut down role a ton over the years. Plus he moves the puck pretty well, maybe not quite as offensive as Chychurn but has some offense and moves decent. Plus he's DIFFERENT than what the Oilers have a ton of. He's a bit older than Chyrchrun but I think he brings way more of what the Oilers badly need.

I look at why Desharnais has come up and stood out so much. Sure he looks like a decent player but he does different things that most of the Oilers defense don't and quite frankly some lack. I think Chychurn would have been fine, he's a good player, maybe does a few things better than a few others but I see him having more of the same of what the Oilers have lots of. Losing Barrie is a loss in that he was great on the PP but the loss I think is more so in the room as he was tight was McD and Leon and seen as one of the key guys for the mood of the room. But at the same time, Eklhom is supposed to be a really good guy and maybe it's a little too chummy in that room. This is about winning hockey games, not hanging out with your buddies.

Ekholm is older, more expensive and more likely to be a boat anchor during this contract. I think Chychrun is better too.

That said, Ekholm was a little cheaper than what Chychrun went for, and I think the price on Chychrun probably dropped. I expect both Arizona and San Jose saw Holland coming, thought about how stupid he acted on Duncan Keith and just tried to take him to the cleaners. Fortunately, he didn't get too stupid this time. Ekholm is a decent pickup in the short-term, and really, the short-term is what matters.

It's nice to see the strategy blow up a little on these GMs too. Arizona didn't get Edmonton or LA to bite, and after we were out, then they were forced to take a lesser deal with Ottawa. For what it's worth, LA is nuts. Korpisalo isn't very good, and Gavrikov is way less of a player than either Ekholm or Chychrun...he's also Russian, so he's not going to get along with the head coach.

San Jose lost us as a trading partner, and I can't see how we can revisit even in the summer since all of our defencemen are on long-term deals (other than the best one of course). It's not going to be easy moving Karlsson, even with this great year, and to lose Holland, who was willing to part with a fortune for him? It's going to haunt Grier - his ultimate return isn't going to be great, I think.

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