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Re: Review: Colorado @ Edmonton (Game #41) [message #816287 is a reply to message #816281 ]	Mon, 09 January 2023 11:26

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Adam wrote on Mon, 09 January 2023 10:48

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 09 January 2023 02:18

Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Sun, 08 January 2023 14:18

This Nurse hate is stupid. I guess Oiler fans have deduced the biggest problem with this team is the guy leading in both plus minus and ice time. He's still our best defenseman. He isn't even having a bad year. On pace to match his career high in points. Munching minutes every night against the other teams top lines. Doesn't matter though. Any mistake he makes goes under the microscope and the good gets ignored. No wonder good free agents don't want to play in that dump. Toxic fans.

I doubt Nurse reads Oilfans, so little risk any comments ever written here ran anyone out town. Oilers don't have toxic fans.
And if he did read it, if he were honest, he should agree with most of the criticism leveled. I couldn't care less about his points, its the GA's and defensive zone giveaways, simple defensive awareness that's at the core of his problems, and by extension, the Oilers winning percentage.
Contrary to popular opinion, no one "hates" Nurse, some just think he's playing crap hockey, which he is, he's not the only one, most of the defensemen are, but he's supposed to be the No.1 d-man, and wears an "A", plays the most minutes, hence the focus of criticism.

100% there are toxic Oilers fans. They're the ones who boo our own players because they're their favourite whipping boy thinking that will somehow help the team. They're the idiots who go up to guys in restaurants or grocery stores or bars to critique their play to their face. They're the ones who tag the player on twitter while calling them names or insulting them. They're the douchebags who send racist messages to Ethan Bear.

There are absolutely toxic fans out there. I hope no one here does any of those things, and so falls short of the definition, but there's no question that Edmonton has more than its fair share of those folks.

Honestly, I think all that smoke blown about how Edmonton is a smart hockey market where people really know the game has gone to a lot of fans' heads. There's some smart people here for sure - I mean, Edmonton is basically the birthplace of the hockey analytics movement, but Joe Fan isn't that smart or sophisticated and sadly there's a lot of them who think they are because they read Spector and Matheson religiously and listen to Stauffer most lunch hours.

There was a time when I was part of the problem. I booed the heck out of Tom Poti and Eric Comrie because I was a zealot Oilers fan. They were the bad guys for either not being as good as the Oilers said they should be or because they publicly spoke negatively about the organization. I was wrong and I've learned.

I do think toxic fans and specific incidents are used as a smokescreen to cover for the players and what the organization is going to do, but that's another conversation.

You're 100% right. The team loves to use the excuses of bad fan behaviour, or weather, or travel, or lack of things to do in the market, etc., etc., etc. when the real issue with attracting players to come here is the fact that almost everyone who does fails and never gets close to a championship, even with the great players and the owner willing to spend to the cap.

Toxic fans suck. But the media here is toxic too - which is worse for the players because they have to actually talk to those people regularly, and the management culture also is toxic - rife with nepotism, cronyism and incompetence, while completely insulating itself from consequences. Those are the bigger issues.

You mean the toxic management and media culture where players leaving town are often publicly blamed for the failures of the organization as a whole? You know, players who are going to other markets, in the small hockey world, full of other players the Oilers may want to acquire one day?

I can't remember which HOPE era player was talking about flying back to Edmonton from a Florida game on Spittin' Chicklet and getting home in time to hit a bar for last call. Travel and the weather isn't so bad in 2022 (or ~2014) when you've got private charters. The cyclical nature of losing or mediocrity still sucks though.

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