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Re: Skinner Extended [message #815643 is a reply to message #815634 ]	Mon, 19 December 2022 11:22

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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:38

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:16

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 09:39

Anyone worried this is another Koskinen thing where they jump the gun on resigning a guy based on limited games? I personally don't think it is but it popped in my head when I saw that.

Not really. Koskinen did not look that great when we signed him, and it was for a lot more money. This avoided the dreaded the short-term bridge deal and comes in at the reasonable range of the most recent RFA goalie signings. Stu is 24 with 33 career games.

23 year old Kochetkov (CAR) - 4 years 8M (15 career games) signed 11/23/22
25 year old Vladar (CGY) - 2 years 4.4M (39 career games) signed 10/20/22
21 year Knight (FLA) - 3 years 13.5M (51 career games) signed 09/27/22
24 year old Oettinger (DAL) - 3 years 12.0M (99 career starts) signed 09/21/22
26 year old Vanecek (NJ) - 3 years 10.2M (99 career games) signed 07/19/22
26 year old Kahkonen (SJ) - 2 years 5.5M (77 career games) signed 07/18/22
27 year old Husso (DET) - 3 years 14.25M (78 career games)signed 07/08/22
27 year old Comrie (BUF) - 2 years 1.8M (39 career games) signed 07/13/22

That is a lot of unproven goalies either in same ball park, or making much much more money than our guy. It takes away a lot of the off-season desperation signing fear.

I Think the only true comparables are Kochetkov, Vladar and Comrie. Maybe Knight. Everyone else has double the track record.

And what were the stats of the comparables when they signed? One thing that is Koskinen-esque is that Skinner started like a house on fire, but in his last few starts we are seeing more of a regression. He's now 29th in GAA, and 19th in Sv% and he's coming off his worst start of the season.

I don't know what the rush here is. Are we really concerned that he's going to be much more expensive in the Summer? I don't believe the organization has shown much aptitude for evaluating and forecasting goalie performance, so I'm really cautious about committing to him for that much and that long right now. This sets the goalie picture almost in stone for the next three years - it's a steady diet of Soup and Stew.

Kochetkov had 3 games experience and a .902 prior to his signing. Vladar and Comrie were sitting around .900.

In general I have always preferred Stew over Soup. More substance and leaves you feeling full. I am a fan of the kid. Looks extremely calm in the crease. Bad games happen, and even then the shot count is what made it look bad. The goals that went in were either odd, or high danger. He has looked good almost every start. 19th (tied for 18th with Vasilesky) in save percentage is nothing to sneeze at and he is only a couple points away from being in the top 15.

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Skinner Extended	By: inverno76 on Mon, 19 December 2022 09:38
Re: Skinner Extended	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 19 December 2022 09:39
Re: Skinner Extended	By: inverno76 on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:16
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Adam on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:38
Re: Skinner Extended	By: inverno76 on Mon, 19 December 2022 11:22
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Adam on Mon, 19 December 2022 11:45
Re: Skinner Extended	By: smyth260 on Mon, 19 December 2022 09:52
Re: Skinner Extended	By: clutchlikeeberle on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:50
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Adam on Mon, 19 December 2022 11:01
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Kr55 on Mon, 19 December 2022 11:20
Re: Skinner Extended	By: smyth260 on Mon, 19 December 2022 18:16
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 08:27
Re: Skinner Extended	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 December 2022 09:31
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 09:46
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Adam on Tue, 20 December 2022 10:27
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 10:33
Re: Skinner Extended	By: smyth260 on Tue, 20 December 2022 11:53
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 12:56
Re: Skinner Extended	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 December 2022 13:30
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 13:47
Re: Skinner Extended	By: Adam on Tue, 20 December 2022 13:59
Re: Skinner Extended	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 December 2022 14:08
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