 RDOilerfan
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:04 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 14 November 2022 12:48 |
I believe the team plays completely different in front of Campbell vs Skinner which is baffling to me. You'd think when a goalie is fighting it a bit, the team would buckle down defensively to help him but they seem to play the opposite which is loosen it up way more than they do with Skinner.
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I've seen you say this a few times. What do you mean by this? I don't see it, and the stats don't seem to support what you are saying. So just wondering if you could quantify what you are saying in any way, or is it more just a feeling?
Because if I look at their numbers, Skinner faces on average 11% more shots than Campbell (250 in 403 minutes for SS VS 307 in 547 minutes for JC). If you just look at complete games (basically remove Oct 15 against the Flames) same thing - 36.5 shots/game for SS vs 32.8 for JC.
High danger shots 67 for Skinner vs 81 for Campbell - so one every 6.0 minutes for Skinner VS 1 every 6.8 minutes for Campbell. Rush attempts? 17 for SS, 19 for JC. So one every 23.7 minutes for SS, and every 28.8 minutes for JC.
I see absolutely nothing between watching the games and looking up the numbers right now to support what you are saying. In fact, I've seen the opposite, and the numbers seem to confirm what I think I saw. On average, Skinner is facing about 11% more shots, high danger shots, and almost 18% more rush attempts than Campbell.
And just looking at the most basic of numbers - Campbell is amongst the worst in the league right now in GAA - 5th worst with 4.27. Only Gibson in Anaheim is worse of goalies who have played as many games as him. And he's 4th worst in save % at .873, but nobody with more than 8 games is worse.
As for the other guy - Skinner is now 6th in save % at .932, and 16th in GAA with 2.53.
I am with you in that I am cheering for Campbell and want him to do well. More games like the one in Tampa and we should be in good shape. But there are no two ways about it - he has really not been very good this year and needs to be a lot better. And your assertion that it's because the team plays looser in front of him I don't think is accurate.
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When I watch the Oilers play Campbell, I see way more times when guys are left unmarked vs Skinner. I tend to see more wide open looks when Campbell is in vs Skinner. I see more breakaways given up against Campbell vs Skinner. This is just how I see it. I heard an interview a couple of days ago from Leon saying the team leaves Campbell out to dry vs Skinner. This is coming from his mouth. So..... the free numbers you found don't back up what one of the Oilers stars says they are doing 
I am not arguing with you one bit, it just looks liked that to me and I am not saying that to stand up for Campbell, he flat out needs to be better. But I am trying to think of a game where Skinner was in where the team laid and absolute stinker in front of him and I can't think of one.
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By: Steve on Mon, 14 November 2022 10:49 |
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By: Steve on Mon, 14 November 2022 14:20 |
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By: Mike on Sun, 13 November 2022 08:40 |
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By: Mike on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:04 |
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