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Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors? [message #814032 is a reply to message #814028 ]	Mon, 14 November 2022 14:20

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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 14 November 2022 10:01

Steve wrote on Mon, 14 November 2022 10:49

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 11 November 2022 13:38

You're pretty cool. Lame my rear end. It's a legit thing to discuss.

Discussing who should get more starts is a legit thing to discuss (right now it's Skinner, obviously). Sending Campbell down to the minors is NOT a legit thing to discuss.

Campbell's struggles are mental. He is the more athletic goalie, and when he is on his game he is one of the best in the league. Have you never seen that? He stoned the Oilers more than once when he played for the Leafs. Do you have poor memory, or are you choosing to ignore his good outings? Currently he needs to work on moving less and squaring up to the shooter (i.e., take more in the chest instead of trying to catch everything). His rebounds might suffer in the short term but it will get his confidence up again. The defense also needs to play more controlled in front of him to help him along. It seems like they play more loose in front of him, expecting him to make the acrobatic saves that he is capable of (which Skinner isn't). An easy game where he only needs to make 20 easy saves for a win would go a long way help his confidence.

Skinner is also benefitting from the league not having a book on him yet. He's big and he plays his angles well (reminds me of JS Giguere in style), but he's not perfect and I think he will have long rough patches too. For one, he goes down too early and leaves holes beside his ears.

The question isn't about burying him now. I don't think anyone is saying the Oilers should cut bait now and grab Laurent Broissoit off of waivers, but projecting that this may need to be discussed is legit.

This is because his struggles are largely mental. Campbell is 30 years old and if he hasn't figured out how to mentally handle being an NHL goaltender, it's fair to ask if this will happening the future. The compounding issue is the fact he's only been a starter for one season and other short bursts where he wasn't good enough to stay a starter. THIS got him a 5 year starter contract with the Oilers. Clearly he has the physical ability and we know he has been good, but if he doesn't figure out the mental part of being a 55 game starter how long do the Oilers pretend he still might be?

That answer is not needed today, but it might be needed far sooner than we think.

Skinner might also not be the answer.

I thought we were discussing sending him down soon. That seems to be what HamBlaster is advocating for anyway.

I think the Oilers give him at least a season and a half before giving up on him completely, which is what sending him to the minors would be doing. And he would need to be atrocious for that entire length of time to give up on him.

I expect he will find his way and post career average numbers, recognizing that his average has a larger variance than a lot of goalies (very hot and very cold). If he doesn't prove to be a good starter I still think we have a good 1A/1B tandem. The coaches will need to learn how to deploy these guys better, and they can't be afraid to pull a guy if he doesn't look like he's sharp.

I don't think this becomes a big issue until Skinner makes the tandem too expensive, which is a big IF in the first place. They should let both guys play the full season.

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So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: HamBlaster on Thu, 10 November 2022 18:45
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: tardigrade81 on Thu, 10 November 2022 18:46
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: NCREDiBLE on Thu, 10 November 2022 19:42
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: tardigrade81 on Thu, 10 November 2022 19:45
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Adam on Thu, 10 November 2022 21:02
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: HamBlaster on Thu, 10 November 2022 21:54
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Hemmer2Eberle on Fri, 11 November 2022 17:01
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: MJ on Thu, 10 November 2022 22:30
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: HamBlaster on Thu, 10 November 2022 23:59
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 11 November 2022 00:07
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: g2k on Fri, 11 November 2022 06:16
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: bigEfromGP on Fri, 11 November 2022 10:39
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: HamBlaster on Fri, 11 November 2022 14:38
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: g2k on Sat, 12 November 2022 02:05
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Steve on Mon, 14 November 2022 10:49
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:01
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:07
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Steve on Mon, 14 November 2022 14:20
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 14 November 2022 15:37
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:04
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: inverno76 on Fri, 11 November 2022 11:36
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 11 November 2022 15:09
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: tardigrade81 on Sat, 12 November 2022 07:08
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Mike on Sun, 13 November 2022 08:40
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 14 November 2022 09:29
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 November 2022 09:48
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Mike on Mon, 14 November 2022 11:04
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 14 November 2022 14:30
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: tardigrade81 on Mon, 14 November 2022 19:17
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Skoobz on Tue, 15 November 2022 09:57
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Mike on Tue, 15 November 2022 11:08
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: Kr55 on Tue, 15 November 2022 10:10
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: tardigrade81 on Tue, 15 November 2022 17:32
Re: So when do we bury Campbell in the minors?	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 15 November 2022 18:07

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